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Miami Lands Tennessee Safety Transfer JaKobe Thomas

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Warrior808 said:
Your on the wrong site, we dont do that **** here. Come back when you get the hate and close minded opinions cranked up a few notches.
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RF-4CCane said:
Cliff notes from that Vols thread.

Mario is a hypocrite
Canes tampered
Miami is rebuilding
More exposure at UT than UM
Liked this kid
He was passed up on the depth chart anyways
He was just holding out for a pay raise
He will have to sit out a year*

*Someones a little behind the times.
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I could apply these to multiple porsters here
 
I watched his highlights, Mesh Powell is better than imo to put this pick up in perspective. He is a bit of a thumper at the POA though, average cover skills, good closing speed, but misses tackles.

Ps. Our best safety duo in the last 10 years was Redwine/JJohnson
 
JayCane20 said:
Even with what I have said about Thomas and prefer Haulcy… we now have 2 safeties better than our best safety a year ago.

Meesh wasn’t terrible but he was played out of position. Hes more of a nickel. Poyser and Thomas are better true safeties. Could probably throw Day in that conversation with the growth/development he has had since then.

Now let’s get Keionte Scott and a DT and close it up.
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I agree with this post. I also agree with my buddy @Hurracanes it was an underwhelming spring portal.

But, if I were going to take the other side of the 8-4 bet that I have with a friend. I would say that no one is that deep, we have a potentially top 10 qb coming back. We added experience and depth across the board and no one is really “that good” this year. If we do what we’re supposed to do this year, our added depth will play dividends. My hope is we’re building a roster for November, December and January. We need some break, but nice job addressing many of our needs. Let’s see who breaks out at WR1 and how the young do step up. Will be the tale of the season
 
fatnasty187 said:
Great feedback, would recommend...... Any chance you can give a brief summary on why? Possibly support this statement? JC man ease up.
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Sure.

The BYU transfer is an average WR but has gadget value and will boost returns. The Tenn safety is a quality 3rd-4th safety but unlikely to be more than that. The RB is a quality 3rd RB, with potential for more due to his age. The new kicker had a nightmare season last year, including miss crucial kicks in the CFP. The NC St LB was a missed tackle machine. The Cincy WR brings nothing incremental to the roster (unless are young WRs are really useless.)

The team is probably better today than it was a couple of months ago, but not by much.
 
Josh said:
So all those LBers we’ve brought in through HS suck?
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I think our LBs are better than we think. Wes B is solid, just not a flashy playmaker; Popo performs whenever he is given am opportunity; Alderman is a solid 3rd/4th; and I don't think we can write off the younger ones.
 
JZCane0825 said:
The BYU all-American returner/WR is a JAG? The NC State LB who was slated to start there? The Tennessee safety projected to start there?
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The BYU WR is a nice playmaker in the return game and definitely provides more juice there. But as a WR, his production has been average at best, especially against good competition.

The NC State LB was bottom 20% In PFF last season. Not that PFF is everything, but his missed tackle rate was absurdly high. Same story with this Tennessee safety.
 
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ALLoverCANE said:
Sure.

The BYU transfer is an average WR but has gadget value and will boost returns. The Tenn safety is a quality 3rd-4th safety but unlikely to be more than that. The RB is a quality 3rd RB, with potential for more due to his age. The new kicker had a nightmare season last year, including miss crucial kicks in the CFP. The NC St LB was a missed tackle machine. The Cincy WR brings nothing incremental to the roster (unless are young WRs are really useless.)

The team is probably better today than it was a couple of months ago, but not by much.
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New season. I'm not exactly excited with the kicked. He choked. I'm not sure how any of the offensive guys will have an impact or not. The back 4 is 10x better than last year. We haven't even seen beck play. Look if miami rolls out the roster and Notre Dame destroys us I guess then most of what you've provided is true. Don't ruin fandom calculating the season to come.
 
fatnasty187 said:
New season. I'm not exactly excited with the kicked. He choked. I'm not sure how any of the offensive guys will have an impact or not. The back 4 is 10x better than last year. We haven't even seen beck play. Look if miami rolls out the roster and Notre Dame destroys us I guess then most of what you've provided is true. Don't ruin fandom calculating the season to come.
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There are only 12 games a season. We're not only allowed to be fans during a few hours on those dozen Saturdays. "Calculating the season" is a huge part of the college football fan experience.

I think we will beat ND and UF, btw.
 
JayCane20 said:
Even with what I have said about Thomas and prefer Haulcy… we now have 2 safeties better than our best safety a year ago.

Meesh wasn’t terrible but he was played out of position. Hes more of a nickel. Poyser and Thomas are better true safeties. Could probably throw Day in that conversation with the growth/development he has had since then.

Now let’s get Keionte Scott and a DT and close it up.
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When is Keionte Scott coming on his visit, he is a huge need for sure. Also, does Miami have any DT on their radar that you know of? Don't need names, just hope there is a DT out there to fill that need. Thanks in advance.
 
Portal rankings, while improving, are still flawed. But they provide valuable context because the ranking is relative to other teams.

In my opinion, the “realists” too often fail to consider that other teams have needs, too. Could we use another good DT? Absolutely. So could everyone in America. That’s why Oklahoma paid seven figures to keep David Stone from jumping in the Portal. We aren’t the only team spending on limited supply.

I saw my guy @WeBallinBoyz reference Cormani and other Portal rankings inflated by high school rankings. Okay. How many of those guys are in our class? None from what I can see. Everybody was a college starter. Almost all were from P4, and the ones who weren’t (Poyser, Blay, Brown) were among the best players at their level. The ranking is not inflated by volume, either- we are Top 3 in average Portal ranking (90.06).

Am I disappointed a receiver like Eric Singleton didn’t jump in the spring portal? Of course. WR1 was a goal that was not met. We could still use more depth at DT and safety. But this was a very productive offseason. There are still a couple things alive, but it’s pretty much done. Now it’s time to coach the guys we have and win the ACC.
 
DMoney said:
Portal rankings, while improving, are still flawed. But they provide valuable context because the ranking is relative to other teams.

In my opinion, the “realists” too often fail to consider that other teams have needs, too. Could we use another good DT? Absolutely. So could everyone in America. That’s why Oklahoma paid seven figures to keep David Stone from jumping in the Portal. We aren’t the only team spending on limited supply.

I saw my guy @WeBallinBoyz reference Cormani and other Portal rankings inflated by high school rankings. Okay. How many of those guys are in our class? None from what I can see. Everybody was a college starter. Almost all were from P4, and the ones who weren’t (Poyser, Blay, Brown) were among the best players at their level. The ranking is not inflated by volume, either- we are Top 3 in average Portal ranking (90.06).

Am I disappointed a receiver like Eric Singleton didn’t jump in the spring portal? Of course. WR1 was a goal that was not met. We could still use more depth at DT and safety. But this was a very productive offseason. There are still a couple things alive, but it’s pretty much done. Now it’s time to coach the guys we have and win the ACC.
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@DMoney I know the rules have changed again and the NCAA may have a more restrictive public position that no more transfers are allowed. But is it legally defensible to believe grad transfers can still switch schools outside of the portal windows? How about undergrads the way X Lucas did?

I'm asking because we really do need a WR1 and IMO a DT1 (or at least a starting rotational DT like you say). Can we still find them as GTs in late May/early June?
 
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Josh said:
So all those LBers we’ve brought in through HS suck?
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Other than Wiley and Hayes it’s been mostly undersized sub 200 lb recruits so it’s not that shocking is it?

Then injuries to GreenTree AA Chase Smith and Bobby Washington who had a foot out the door this winter.
 
DC3 said:
Other than Wiley and Hayes it’s been mostly undersized sub 200 lb recruits so it’s not that shocking is it?

Then injuries to GreenTree AA Chase Smith and Bobby Washington who had a foot out the door this winter.
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Marcelin is also injured.
 
DMoney said:
Portal rankings, while improving, are still flawed. But they provide valuable context because the ranking is relative to other teams.

In my opinion, the “realists” too often fail to consider that other teams have needs, too. Could we use another good DT? Absolutely. So could everyone in America. That’s why Oklahoma paid seven figures to keep David Stone from jumping in the Portal. We aren’t the only team spending on limited supply.

I saw my guy @WeBallinBoyz reference Cormani and other Portal rankings inflated by high school rankings. Okay. How many of those guys are in our class? None from what I can see. Everybody was a college starter. Almost all were from P4, and the ones who weren’t (Poyser, Blay, Brown) were among the best players at their level. The ranking is not inflated by volume, either- we are Top 3 in average Portal ranking (90.06).

Am I disappointed a receiver like Eric Singleton didn’t jump in the spring portal? Of course. WR1 was a goal that was not met. We could still use more depth at DT and safety. But this was a very productive offseason. There are still a couple things alive, but it’s pretty much done. Now it’s time to coach the guys we have and win the ACC.
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its also not realistic to have a perfect roster

UGA has dominated the sport and they would have traded WR, TE, & OL rooms with us this past season

we'll never be all the way there, but this offseason with hetherman + the new defensive secondary (going from bad to best in conference and top 10 in America probably) while getting the best QB in the portal, was an incredible haul,

Dawson produces 1000 yard slot WR's on the regular going back to the beginning. a WR 1 would have been nice, but the WR depth is way overstated and melodramatic. It's not like he got a WR 1 in the portal every year at WVU and Houston, we have young talent and they will produce in this offense with this qb
 
DMoney said:
Marcelin is also injured.
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He was in the undesized group i was refering too but him being hurt is unfortunate.

I do have faith that some of the mistakes made were on Guidry becausehey just had no clue what they needed to be doing on certian plays/formations. Hetherman's going to keep things simple,stupid for these guys and we should hopefully see them play much faster.

Curious on your thoughts of the LB play from the spring srcimmages, etc
 
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