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Miami -6 vs UNC

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jerive31 said:
If this truly is #TNM, Miami wins this game by 2+ TDs. Anything less, honestly, looks like the same old Miami.
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TNM isnt going to happen over night . I suspect every game we get better a little . If we played this game in 2 months then I agree we better win by 14 plus points. But for early september a 3-7 point win is good for me . Just win .
 
247 Canes said:
Well... I watch Elite 11/QB1 every season and I will tell you Sam Howell shows me more promise than most of the QB's we will face.




North Carolina QB - https://247sports.com/Player/Sam-Howell-91707/

Vs.

Central Michigan QB - https://247sports.com/Player/Quinten-Dormady-28115/
Virginia Tech QB - https://247sports.com/Player/Ryan-Willis-34704/
Virginia QB - https://247sports.com/Player/Bryce-Perkins-21985/
Georgia Tech QB - https://247sports.com/player/james-graham-91927/
Pittsburgh QB - https://247sports.com/Player/Kenny-Pickett-81700/
Florida State QB - https://247sports.com/Player/James-Blackman-79879/
Louisville QB - https://247sports.com/player/jawon-pass-33473/
Florida International University QB - https://247sports.com/player/james-morgan-30589/
Duke QB - https://247sports.com/Player/Quentin-Harris-26885/
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Don’t know if he’s going to be the best we face this year - but he has LOADS of potential. Has a howitzer for an arm. And pretty **** good placement on his deep balls. Good legs. Kid is a dynamic looking prospect. But, as we all know, most young QBs s tart to see double once they’re tagged often. We need to treat him like VT 2017/2018.

Stop the run. Get after the young QB. All night.

Stop the run. The picks will come.
 
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Mklein13 said:
I hope all you fine gentlemen out there got there booze ready for a Saturday W. Have one for me. Docs told me I can’t drink until further notice. Too many concussions growing up playing sports and over the last few years playing softball and hockey.
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This dude gets concussions playing softball. Your skull must be made of paper mache.
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
Of course, but at some point things do become somewhat noteworthy. And to your 2nd point, I couldn't agree more. But we've been basically a 3rd place Coastal team for 15 years. Of course as fans we should all think we're going to go up there and fist**** them, but based off where we realistically are as a program, beating conference teams on the road by a TD or more just doesn't happen that often. We've all been waiting for that to happen for 15 years, so I sure as **** hope it starts Saturday night.

I will say this, if Miami has any aspirations of having a good football team this season, they sure as chit better go up there and handle this average *** UNC team led by Grandpa Mack.
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And we keep firing coaches to get out of that 15 year rut. Clemson was in a much longer rut than that. Point is Clemson found their coach and quit languishing in the middle of the Atlantic and getting their asses handed to them by South Carolina.

If we got our coach, then it’s ok to expect to start beating shytbag zero football programs like UNC that won 2 games last year and doesn’t recruit at our level.

The whole mindset of our program needs to change if we are ever going to rise above the middle of the Coastal pack.
 
The only way this game is a blowout is if the D forces 3+ TOs and converts some of those to points.

Until the OL gets it together, the offense isn’t going to rout anyone.
 
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OrangeBowlMagic said:
You don't have the slightest clue how lines work. No offense at all, just stating a fact. This is as clueless a post about the betting market as can possibly be made.
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None taken but I do understand. I think if Miami had beaten #8 UF on a fluke TD (everything else about the game the same) the initial line would have come out closer to -8.5.
You really think the line still comes out a -6 if Miami is 1-0?

If Miami is 1-0 with a victory over UF, I think the public would have bet HEAVY on the Canes (narrative The U is back!) eventually moving the line to around -11.5. It's all a ridiculous overreaction to beating a SEC team. Again the only difference in my hypothetical scenario and real life is a successful hail mary at the end, which is more luck than skill. As it stands, just because UNC won their sec matchup and we lost ours, the public is smelling an upset.
 
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Kendall Boy Cane said:
They don't, it'll be back up to 5.5-6 by Saturday
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All moves matter. I pay attention to the totality of the move. If it closes -5.5 or -6 then Miami isn’t who the sharps are on. It will have fallen overall.

What if it dropped from -6 to -2.5 and then closed -3? You think wiseguys are on Miami for that last half point bump? Some will just fade huge moves thinking Vegas isn’t 3.5 points off.
 
Poptimus said:
All moves matter. I pay attention to the totality of the move. If it closes -5.5 or -6 then Miami isn’t who the sharps are on. It will have fallen overall.

What if it dropped from -6 to -2.5 and then closed -3? You think wiseguys are on Miami for that last half point bump? Some will just fade huge moves thinking Vegas isn’t 3.5 points off.
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My point is that all the money is on UNC at the moment because gamblers will jump on a home dog of +3 or more no matter who/what/when/where/why is playing because its a favorable line. It will even back out by game time because of the sharps or as you say the "small community" driving the line.
 
TimeB0mb said:
None taken but I do understand. I think if Miami had beaten #8 UF on a fluke TD (everything else about the game the same) the initial line would have come out closer to -8.5.
You really think the line still comes out a -6 if Miami is 1-0?

If Miami is 1-0 with a victory over UF, I think the public would have bet HEAVY on the Canes (narrative The U is back!) eventually moving the line to around -11.5. It's all a ridiculous overreaction to beating a SEC team. Again the only difference in my hypothetical scenario and real life is a successful hail mary at the end, which is more luck than skill. As it stands, just because UNC won their sec matchup and we lost ours, the public is smelling an upset.
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You did watch the 60 minute segment that Poptimus posted? If not I highly recommend you do because they show him doing the exact same thing but wants the canes in a close one and more than likely had his "employees" move the line early on to get it to the number he wants so he can bet huge to cover all the up front money on UNC moving the line. The public dosen't have that kind of influence as you would think.
 
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jerive31 said:
Slight disagree. Nelson's problem much of the game was getting off the snap. Greenard was blowing by him while Zion was still in his stance. That, I attribute, is the epitome of freshman mistakes. I trust the staff will have worked on that. He'll still get beat at times, he's a freshman, but it shouldn't be as bad as it was against Florida.

Campbell was more technique and I hope they gave him something to work with. I'm more interested to see how he performs. The moment was too big for him in Orlando. Let's see if he's ready for the challenge on Saturday.

Frankly, IF they're both still as bad as they were against Florida, then it's on Enos to gameplan around that if he's worth his weight as OC. We'll see.
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Well, I hope your right...and improvement should be expected, but it was still an glaringly obvious weak spot that DC's will seek to exploit.
 
canecat said:
TNM isnt going to happen over night . I suspect every game we get better a little . If we played this game in 2 months then I agree we better win by 14 plus points. But for early september a 3-7 point win is good for me . Just win .
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With all due respect, that's setting the bar too low. From what we've seen publicly, the staff is showing they're not accepting excuses. Now, if we played in November, this game should be a 40-point blowout win for us. That I said 2+ TDs is accounting for the fact that we're not there yet, but compare these 2 rosters and there's no way this game should be close. But again, that only reinforces my original point. We should have our backups in by the middle of the 3rd. That's the standard #TNM should be at. If it doesn't happen until the 4th, that's at least progress. If this is a close game in the 4th and we never get our backups in, we have bigger problems at hand the rest of the season.
 
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