"Me Guys"

[DHucks]

You're missing the point here. I've been searching for the quote, but he was slated as saying that he would keep in contact, and I was asked pre Cincinnati in the interview about him saying that. He's never done it at all. They were upset at me saying we were family, and what I did wasn't what family does to each other.

What family doesn't check in on sick family?

Shouldn't family keep promises?

Isn't him calling out last year's players airing family business too?

Open your eyes man. Those are only a few questions. He shouldn't be doing things like this.

If it's really family, you keep these things in house.

Keeping the lines of contact open doesn't necessarily mean he is going to be the one doing the contacting. Did you contact them after that? Not saying he did or didn't, but it sounds like you are trying to hold them to the standard that Duke set, which is going way above and beyond the call of duty.

Also, at no point did he mention Duke being one of the "me" guys on the team, nor did the various other current players who have made similar statements about players giving up. So I have no idea whether Duke is even one of those they were talking about.

As for "calling out last year's players....that is done by many coaches. I've seen direct quotes from Meyer, Saban, many others pointing out that there were elements in the team that were a problem to team chemistry, and stating that the team in a particular season is much better off chemistry-wise than the year before after some players moved on (Saban even used the "energy vampires" term to refer to some of those players). At no point were specific players named nor did they say that it was every player that left, but that there was a very real locker room problem and team chemistry problem with a subset of players is something that has been stated many times by players as well as the coaching staff.

Only Al's mother would dare to compare him to Saba and Urban -- unless you are talking about slimy. Those guys are explaining why a team lost one game instead of going undefeated or finished 5th one year. Golden has been throwing players under the bus since the K State game exposed his rancid defense and his boyfriend. Duke under the bus as early as the USF game to cover his lack of QB talent in his third year.

DHucks is speaking from personal experience while you seem to speak from an unnatural love affair with Al. I use to support him but the constant pitching of players under nearest bus drove me away. NOT ONCE has the man even implied that coaches needed to do better or find another job but he persist in blaming players and fans for all his failures. Open your eyes and see.

Exactly. I wanted to believe he was different than what he was being made out to be. I really, wholeheartedly wanted to. But, what happened to us, was exactly what he was made to be.

While the cameras were on and we were present, he was awesome. When we weren't there and cameras weren't on, he was a ghost.

After the VT game, nearly every staff member sought us out to tell us thanks for coming, and by us I mean my wife and I. I personally had to search for Golden. When I found him, he was on the bus. I was allowed to step on to say congrats and thanks for having us, but he just nodded his head, gave a half smile and went back to what he was doing. I found the exchange very, very odd. Now I find it fitting.

Guess he was blocking out the noise.

I hope your son is doing well.
While I do not care for the overall coaching performance of the team, the fact is you would not have had access to the players without Golden's consent. Don' t let your opinion be shaped by a bunch of miserable Internet posters. Making negative comments after you were given the opportunity to spend time with the team comes across as ungrateful. I am sure you are not. Sometimes perception is stronger than reality.
Your sons health and happiness is more important than our opinions or the wins and losses of a football team. I know many are pulling for him.
Blessings to you and your family.

You think I'm concerned with folks perception of me being ungrateful? At the expense of the truth?

He is what he is point blank. Access aside, it doesn't excuse what happened or what is happening. Dude is a straight "Me guy". Carter and our experience have nothing to do with that.

Dude talks family, he needs to walk with his talk. Something he hasn't done a lot of.

 

[GoldenOfrio Sucks]

Keeping the lines of contact open doesn't necessarily mean he is going to be the one doing the contacting. Did you contact them after that? Not saying he did or didn't, but it sounds like you are trying to hold them to the standard that Duke set, which is going way above and beyond the call of duty.

Also, at no point did he mention Duke being one of the "me" guys on the team, nor did the various other current players who have made similar statements about players giving up. So I have no idea whether Duke is even one of those they were talking about.

As for "calling out last year's players....that is done by many coaches. I've seen direct quotes from Meyer, Saban, many others pointing out that there were elements in the team that were a problem to team chemistry, and stating that the team in a particular season is much better off chemistry-wise than the year before after some players moved on (Saban even used the "energy vampires" term to refer to some of those players). At no point were specific players named nor did they say that it was every player that left, but that there was a very real locker room problem and team chemistry problem with a subset of players is something that has been stated many times by players as well as the coaching staff.

Only Al's mother would dare to compare him to Saba and Urban -- unless you are talking about slimy. Those guys are explaining why a team lost one game instead of going undefeated or finished 5th one year. Golden has been throwing players under the bus since the K State game exposed his rancid defense and his boyfriend. Duke under the bus as early as the USF game to cover his lack of QB talent in his third year.

DHucks is speaking from personal experience while you seem to speak from an unnatural love affair with Al. I use to support him but the constant pitching of players under nearest bus drove me away. NOT ONCE has the man even implied that coaches needed to do better or find another job but he persist in blaming players and fans for all his failures. Open your eyes and see.

Exactly. I wanted to believe he was different than what he was being made out to be. I really, wholeheartedly wanted to. But, what happened to us, was exactly what he was made to be.

While the cameras were on and we were present, he was awesome. When we weren't there and cameras weren't on, he was a ghost.

After the VT game, nearly every staff member sought us out to tell us thanks for coming, and by us I mean my wife and I. I personally had to search for Golden. When I found him, he was on the bus. I was allowed to step on to say congrats and thanks for having us, but he just nodded his head, gave a half smile and went back to what he was doing. I found the exchange very, very odd. Now I find it fitting.

Guess he was blocking out the noise.

I hope your son is doing well.
While I do not care for the overall coaching performance of the team, the fact is you would not have had access to the players without Golden's consent. Don' t let your opinion be shaped by a bunch of miserable Internet posters. Making negative comments after you were given the opportunity to spend time with the team comes across as ungrateful. I am sure you are not. Sometimes perception is stronger than reality.
Your sons health and happiness is more important than our opinions or the wins and losses of a football team. I know many are pulling for him.
Blessings to you and your family.

You think I'm concerned with folks perception of me being ungrateful? At the expense of the truth?

He is what he is point blank. Access aside, it doesn't excuse what happened or what is happening. Dude is a straight "Me guy". Carter and our experience have nothing to do with that.

Dude talks family, he needs to walk with his talk. Something he hasn't done a lot of.

Golden is a complete fraud and a con man.

 

[Miami Nights]

The only me guy in this group is al golden. He's to selfish to fire his boy or himself and to do what's right for this program.

 

[McGahee2TheHouse]

^ this guy called it from the very first game

 

[Rellyrell]

Al is the epitome of a me-guy. That's what's so comical about his "obversations" of the team.

-He refuses to change up his scheme to fit his personnel.
-He left us high and dry in the heat of last year's recruiting cycle to pursue another gig without notifying our admin
-He refused to explain the situation to recruits, their parents, current players, or even his bosses
-He refused a negotiable, and sensible buyout for the betterment of the team
-Has refused to accept any responsibility for on-field production; rather he has blamed the team, social media, television scheduling, the cloud, the university, rain, and wind as all means to justify why he has lost every single winnable game.

Fact.

 

[Gatorhater]

So because Golden opened up the team to Carter and your family at some point and brought them to practices or whatever else, he is a bad guy because he doesn't continue to do so and doesn't continue to communicate with your family? Many programs and coaches wouldn't have done any of that in the first place, so they already went above and beyond what most programs do. There are hundreds of terribly sick children out there, should all of the families that the UM coaches don't keep tabs on be upset with them as well, or be upset because they chose to spend time with your family and not theirs? That Duke has formed a special relationship with Carter and has maintained that is wonderful, and a great reflection on Duke. That the coaching staff didn't maintain the relationship isn't a negative reflection on them.

You're missing the point here. I've been searching for the quote, but he was slated as saying that he would keep in contact, and I was asked pre Cincinnati in the interview about him saying that. He's never done it at all. They were upset at me saying we were family, and what I did wasn't what family does to each other.

What family doesn't check in on sick family?

Shouldn't family keep promises?

Isn't him calling out last year's players airing family business too?

Open your eyes man. Those are only a few questions. He shouldn't be doing things like this.

If it's really family, you keep these things in house.

Keeping the lines of contact open doesn't necessarily mean he is going to be the one doing the contacting. Did you contact them after that? Not saying he did or didn't, but it sounds like you are trying to hold them to the standard that Duke set, which is going way above and beyond the call of duty.

Also, at no point did he mention Duke being one of the "me" guys on the team, nor did the various other current players who have made similar statements about players giving up. So I have no idea whether Duke is even one of those they were talking about.

As for "calling out last year's players....that is done by many coaches. I've seen direct quotes from Meyer, Saban, many others pointing out that there were elements in the team that were a problem to team chemistry, and stating that the team in a particular season is much better off chemistry-wise than the year before after some players moved on (Saban even used the "energy vampires" term to refer to some of those players). At no point were specific players named nor did they say that it was every player that left, but that there was a very real locker room problem and team chemistry problem with a subset of players is something that has been stated many times by players as well as the coaching staff.

Only Al's mother would dare to compare him to Saba and Urban -- unless you are talking about slimy. Those guys are explaining why a team lost one game instead of going undefeated or finished 5th one year. Golden has been throwing players under the bus since the K State game exposed his rancid defense and his boyfriend. Duke under the bus as early as the USF game to cover his lack of QB talent in his third year.

DHucks is speaking from personal experience while you seem to speak from an unnatural love affair with Al. I use to support him but the constant pitching of players under nearest bus drove me away. NOT ONCE has the man even implied that coaches needed to do better or find another job but he persist in blaming players and fans for all his failures. Open your eyes and see.

Absolute BS. While Golden has underperformed, he has not "thrown players under the bus" any more than any other coach does every day, every season. That's a little narrative some of you have jumped on because you have to make up as many scenarios as possible to whine about. Your vision is so black and white that there can never be more than one problem. The reality is, while Golden has not done a great job, there is definitely blame to go around for some of the players as well.

Are you actually trying to maintain a position that Al Golden did NOT blames the players for being "out of position, missing assignments, failing to make their read ..." after the calls for Marks scalp following the KS disaster became to load to ignore? Al did not criticize Duke after the USF game? And that each year Al has NOT thrown dirt on the players leaving for the NFL? Seriously?

Did the TEAM quit after the FSU loss each of the last two years? You bet they did. That is a coaching failure not a player failure. Our first NC came after loss to the gator -- our real rival. Howard knew the team could have come apart and has said so. HE took SUCCESSFUL action to prevent it. (Bye the way, that was Bernie's first game and he DID NOT score on his first drive like Brad did, which could not find a way to win with) Al's teams have quit on him every single year he was been here. The players have been changed but the result remained the same. The one constant is your boy, Al Golden. One more thing, remember Al used have a true freshman QB as an excuse several times last year -- Brad has already been greased for the slip and slide under the wheels. Al use to exchange emails with me while I defended him during the BTW deal-- he even sent a signed photo. Once I started questioning Mark and the Al defense he never did again. I may be black and white but at least I have seen BOTH colors.

 

[Cribby]

You're missing the point here. I've been searching for the quote, but he was slated as saying that he would keep in contact, and I was asked pre Cincinnati in the interview about him saying that. He's never done it at all. They were upset at me saying we were family, and what I did wasn't what family does to each other.

What family doesn't check in on sick family?

Shouldn't family keep promises?

Isn't him calling out last year's players airing family business too?

Open your eyes man. Those are only a few questions. He shouldn't be doing things like this.

If it's really family, you keep these things in house.

Keeping the lines of contact open doesn't necessarily mean he is going to be the one doing the contacting. Did you contact them after that? Not saying he did or didn't, but it sounds like you are trying to hold them to the standard that Duke set, which is going way above and beyond the call of duty.

Also, at no point did he mention Duke being one of the "me" guys on the team, nor did the various other current players who have made similar statements about players giving up. So I have no idea whether Duke is even one of those they were talking about.

As for "calling out last year's players....that is done by many coaches. I've seen direct quotes from Meyer, Saban, many others pointing out that there were elements in the team that were a problem to team chemistry, and stating that the team in a particular season is much better off chemistry-wise than the year before after some players moved on (Saban even used the "energy vampires" term to refer to some of those players). At no point were specific players named nor did they say that it was every player that left, but that there was a very real locker room problem and team chemistry problem with a subset of players is something that has been stated many times by players as well as the coaching staff.

Only Al's mother would dare to compare him to Saba and Urban -- unless you are talking about slimy. Those guys are explaining why a team lost one game instead of going undefeated or finished 5th one year. Golden has been throwing players under the bus since the K State game exposed his rancid defense and his boyfriend. Duke under the bus as early as the USF game to cover his lack of QB talent in his third year.

DHucks is speaking from personal experience while you seem to speak from an unnatural love affair with Al. I use to support him but the constant pitching of players under nearest bus drove me away. NOT ONCE has the man even implied that coaches needed to do better or find another job but he persist in blaming players and fans for all his failures. Open your eyes and see.

Absolute BS. While Golden has underperformed, he has not "thrown players under the bus" any more than any other coach does every day, every season. That's a little narrative some of you have jumped on because you have to make up as many scenarios as possible to whine about. Your vision is so black and white that there can never be more than one problem. The reality is, while Golden has not done a great job, there is definitely blame to go around for some of the players as well.

Are you actually trying to maintain a position that Al Golden did NOT blames the players for being "out of position, missing assignments, failing to make their read ..." after the calls for Marks scalp following the KS disaster became to load to ignore? Al did not criticize Duke after the USF game? And that each year Al has NOT thrown dirt on the players leaving for the NFL? Seriously?

Did the TEAM quit after the FSU loss each of the last two years? You bet they did. That is a coaching failure not a player failure. Our first NC came after loss to the gator -- our real rival. Howard knew the team could have come apart and has said so. HE took SUCCESSFUL action to prevent it. (Bye the way, that was Bernie's first game and he DID NOT score on his first drive like Brad did, which could not find a way to win with) Al's teams have quit on him every single year he was been here. The players have been changed but the result remained the same. The one constant is your boy, Al Golden. One more thing, remember Al used have a true freshman QB as an excuse several times last year -- Brad has already been greased for the slip and slide under the wheels. Al use to exchange emails with me while I defended him during the BTW deal-- he even sent a signed photo. Once I started questioning Mark and the Al defense he never did again. I may be black and white but at least I have seen BOTH colors.

Can't wait to hear responses to this

 

[ball915]

Might be the most successful thread I've ever started. Woohoo!!!

 

[DHucks]

You're missing the point here. I've been searching for the quote, but he was slated as saying that he would keep in contact, and I was asked pre Cincinnati in the interview about him saying that. He's never done it at all. They were upset at me saying we were family, and what I did wasn't what family does to each other.

What family doesn't check in on sick family?

Shouldn't family keep promises?

Isn't him calling out last year's players airing family business too?

Open your eyes man. Those are only a few questions. He shouldn't be doing things like this.

If it's really family, you keep these things in house.

Keeping the lines of contact open doesn't necessarily mean he is going to be the one doing the contacting. Did you contact them after that? Not saying he did or didn't, but it sounds like you are trying to hold them to the standard that Duke set, which is going way above and beyond the call of duty.

Also, at no point did he mention Duke being one of the "me" guys on the team, nor did the various other current players who have made similar statements about players giving up. So I have no idea whether Duke is even one of those they were talking about.

As for "calling out last year's players....that is done by many coaches. I've seen direct quotes from Meyer, Saban, many others pointing out that there were elements in the team that were a problem to team chemistry, and stating that the team in a particular season is much better off chemistry-wise than the year before after some players moved on (Saban even used the "energy vampires" term to refer to some of those players). At no point were specific players named nor did they say that it was every player that left, but that there was a very real locker room problem and team chemistry problem with a subset of players is something that has been stated many times by players as well as the coaching staff.

Only Al's mother would dare to compare him to Saba and Urban -- unless you are talking about slimy. Those guys are explaining why a team lost one game instead of going undefeated or finished 5th one year. Golden has been throwing players under the bus since the K State game exposed his rancid defense and his boyfriend. Duke under the bus as early as the USF game to cover his lack of QB talent in his third year.

DHucks is speaking from personal experience while you seem to speak from an unnatural love affair with Al. I use to support him but the constant pitching of players under nearest bus drove me away. NOT ONCE has the man even implied that coaches needed to do better or find another job but he persist in blaming players and fans for all his failures. Open your eyes and see.

Absolute BS. While Golden has underperformed, he has not "thrown players under the bus" any more than any other coach does every day, every season. That's a little narrative some of you have jumped on because you have to make up as many scenarios as possible to whine about. Your vision is so black and white that there can never be more than one problem. The reality is, while Golden has not done a great job, there is definitely blame to go around for some of the players as well.

Are you actually trying to maintain a position that Al Golden did NOT blames the players for being "out of position, missing assignments, failing to make their read ..." after the calls for Marks scalp following the KS disaster became to load to ignore? Al did not criticize Duke after the USF game? And that each year Al has NOT thrown dirt on the players leaving for the NFL? Seriously?

Did the TEAM quit after the FSU loss each of the last two years? You bet they did. That is a coaching failure not a player failure. Our first NC came after loss to the gator -- our real rival. Howard knew the team could have come apart and has said so. HE took SUCCESSFUL action to prevent it. (Bye the way, that was Bernie's first game and he DID NOT score on his first drive like Brad did, which could not find a way to win with) Al's teams have quit on him every single year he was been here. The players have been changed but the result remained the same. The one constant is your boy, Al Golden. One more thing, remember Al used have a true freshman QB as an excuse several times last year -- Brad has already been greased for the slip and slide under the wheels. Al use to exchange emails with me while I defended him during the BTW deal-- he even sent a signed photo. Once I started questioning Mark and the Al defense he never did again. I may be black and white but at least I have seen BOTH colors.

 

[NVA CANE]

You're missing the point here. I've been searching for the quote, but he was slated as saying that he would keep in contact, and I was asked pre Cincinnati in the interview about him saying that. He's never done it at all. They were upset at me saying we were family, and what I did wasn't what family does to each other.

What family doesn't check in on sick family?

Shouldn't family keep promises?

Isn't him calling out last year's players airing family business too?

Open your eyes man. Those are only a few questions. He shouldn't be doing things like this.

If it's really family, you keep these things in house.

Keeping the lines of contact open doesn't necessarily mean he is going to be the one doing the contacting. Did you contact them after that? Not saying he did or didn't, but it sounds like you are trying to hold them to the standard that Duke set, which is going way above and beyond the call of duty.

Also, at no point did he mention Duke being one of the "me" guys on the team, nor did the various other current players who have made similar statements about players giving up. So I have no idea whether Duke is even one of those they were talking about.

As for "calling out last year's players....that is done by many coaches. I've seen direct quotes from Meyer, Saban, many others pointing out that there were elements in the team that were a problem to team chemistry, and stating that the team in a particular season is much better off chemistry-wise than the year before after some players moved on (Saban even used the "energy vampires" term to refer to some of those players). At no point were specific players named nor did they say that it was every player that left, but that there was a very real locker room problem and team chemistry problem with a subset of players is something that has been stated many times by players as well as the coaching staff.

Only Al's mother would dare to compare him to Saba and Urban -- unless you are talking about slimy. Those guys are explaining why a team lost one game instead of going undefeated or finished 5th one year. Golden has been throwing players under the bus since the K State game exposed his rancid defense and his boyfriend. Duke under the bus as early as the USF game to cover his lack of QB talent in his third year.

DHucks is speaking from personal experience while you seem to speak from an unnatural love affair with Al. I use to support him but the constant pitching of players under nearest bus drove me away. NOT ONCE has the man even implied that coaches needed to do better or find another job but he persist in blaming players and fans for all his failures. Open your eyes and see.

Absolute BS. While Golden has underperformed, he has not "thrown players under the bus" any more than any other coach does every day, every season. That's a little narrative some of you have jumped on because you have to make up as many scenarios as possible to whine about. Your vision is so black and white that there can never be more than one problem. The reality is, while Golden has not done a great job, there is definitely blame to go around for some of the players as well.

Are you actually trying to maintain a position that Al Golden did NOT blames the players for being "out of position, missing assignments, failing to make their read ..." after the calls for Marks scalp following the KS disaster became to load to ignore? Al did not criticize Duke after the USF game? And that each year Al has NOT thrown dirt on the players leaving for the NFL? Seriously?

Did the TEAM quit after the FSU loss each of the last two years? You bet they did. That is a coaching failure not a player failure. Our first NC came after loss to the gator -- our real rival. Howard knew the team could have come apart and has said so. HE took SUCCESSFUL action to prevent it. (Bye the way, that was Bernie's first game and he DID NOT score on his first drive like Brad did, which could not find a way to win with) Al's teams have quit on him every single year he was been here. The players have been changed but the result remained the same. The one constant is your boy, Al Golden. One more thing, remember Al used have a true freshman QB as an excuse several times last year -- Brad has already been greased for the slip and slide under the wheels. Al use to exchange emails with me while I defended him during the BTW deal-- he even sent a signed photo. Once I started questioning Mark and the Al defense he never did again. I may be black and white but at least I have seen BOTH colors.

:nba-anthony_davis-u

 

[dk72]

You're missing the point here. I've been searching for the quote, but he was slated as saying that he would keep in contact, and I was asked pre Cincinnati in the interview about him saying that. He's never done it at all. They were upset at me saying we were family, and what I did wasn't what family does to each other.

What family doesn't check in on sick family?

Shouldn't family keep promises?

Isn't him calling out last year's players airing family business too?

Open your eyes man. Those are only a few questions. He shouldn't be doing things like this.

If it's really family, you keep these things in house.

Keeping the lines of contact open doesn't necessarily mean he is going to be the one doing the contacting. Did you contact them after that? Not saying he did or didn't, but it sounds like you are trying to hold them to the standard that Duke set, which is going way above and beyond the call of duty.

Also, at no point did he mention Duke being one of the "me" guys on the team, nor did the various other current players who have made similar statements about players giving up. So I have no idea whether Duke is even one of those they were talking about.

As for "calling out last year's players....that is done by many coaches. I've seen direct quotes from Meyer, Saban, many others pointing out that there were elements in the team that were a problem to team chemistry, and stating that the team in a particular season is much better off chemistry-wise than the year before after some players moved on (Saban even used the "energy vampires" term to refer to some of those players). At no point were specific players named nor did they say that it was every player that left, but that there was a very real locker room problem and team chemistry problem with a subset of players is something that has been stated many times by players as well as the coaching staff.

Only Al's mother would dare to compare him to Saba and Urban -- unless you are talking about slimy. Those guys are explaining why a team lost one game instead of going undefeated or finished 5th one year. Golden has been throwing players under the bus since the K State game exposed his rancid defense and his boyfriend. Duke under the bus as early as the USF game to cover his lack of QB talent in his third year.

DHucks is speaking from personal experience while you seem to speak from an unnatural love affair with Al. I use to support him but the constant pitching of players under nearest bus drove me away. NOT ONCE has the man even implied that coaches needed to do better or find another job but he persist in blaming players and fans for all his failures. Open your eyes and see.

Absolute BS. While Golden has underperformed, he has not "thrown players under the bus" any more than any other coach does every day, every season. That's a little narrative some of you have jumped on because you have to make up as many scenarios as possible to whine about. Your vision is so black and white that there can never be more than one problem. The reality is, while Golden has not done a great job, there is definitely blame to go around for some of the players as well.

Just stop

No

 

[rudebuddha]

Al is the epitome of a me-guy. That's what's so comical about his "obversations" of the team.

-He refuses to change up his scheme to fit his personnel.
-He left us high and dry in the heat of last year's recruiting cycle to pursue another gig without notifying our admin
-He refused to explain the situation to recruits, their parents, current players, or even his bosses
-He refused a negotiable, and sensible buyout for the betterment of the team
-Has refused to accept any responsibility for on-field production; rather he has blamed the team, social media, television scheduling, the cloud, the university, rain, and wind as all means to justify why he has lost every single winnable game.

Fact.

you do realize that none of what you wrote is fact. You confuse your suppositions with facts, and like many of the people on here, you seem to think that if you say it, write it, or preach it enough times that your opinions will actually morph into truths.

Not so.

 

[dk72]

You're missing the point here. I've been searching for the quote, but he was slated as saying that he would keep in contact, and I was asked pre Cincinnati in the interview about him saying that. He's never done it at all. They were upset at me saying we were family, and what I did wasn't what family does to each other.

What family doesn't check in on sick family?

Shouldn't family keep promises?

Isn't him calling out last year's players airing family business too?

Open your eyes man. Those are only a few questions. He shouldn't be doing things like this.

If it's really family, you keep these things in house.

Keeping the lines of contact open doesn't necessarily mean he is going to be the one doing the contacting. Did you contact them after that? Not saying he did or didn't, but it sounds like you are trying to hold them to the standard that Duke set, which is going way above and beyond the call of duty.

Also, at no point did he mention Duke being one of the "me" guys on the team, nor did the various other current players who have made similar statements about players giving up. So I have no idea whether Duke is even one of those they were talking about.

As for "calling out last year's players....that is done by many coaches. I've seen direct quotes from Meyer, Saban, many others pointing out that there were elements in the team that were a problem to team chemistry, and stating that the team in a particular season is much better off chemistry-wise than the year before after some players moved on (Saban even used the "energy vampires" term to refer to some of those players). At no point were specific players named nor did they say that it was every player that left, but that there was a very real locker room problem and team chemistry problem with a subset of players is something that has been stated many times by players as well as the coaching staff.

Only Al's mother would dare to compare him to Saba and Urban -- unless you are talking about slimy. Those guys are explaining why a team lost one game instead of going undefeated or finished 5th one year. Golden has been throwing players under the bus since the K State game exposed his rancid defense and his boyfriend. Duke under the bus as early as the USF game to cover his lack of QB talent in his third year.

DHucks is speaking from personal experience while you seem to speak from an unnatural love affair with Al. I use to support him but the constant pitching of players under nearest bus drove me away. NOT ONCE has the man even implied that coaches needed to do better or find another job but he persist in blaming players and fans for all his failures. Open your eyes and see.

Absolute BS. While Golden has underperformed, he has not "thrown players under the bus" any more than any other coach does every day, every season. That's a little narrative some of you have jumped on because you have to make up as many scenarios as possible to whine about. Your vision is so black and white that there can never be more than one problem. The reality is, while Golden has not done a great job, there is definitely blame to go around for some of the players as well.

Are you actually trying to maintain a position that Al Golden did NOT blames the players for being "out of position, missing assignments, failing to make their read ..." after the calls for Marks scalp following the KS disaster became to load to ignore? Al did not criticize Duke after the USF game? And that each year Al has NOT thrown dirt on the players leaving for the NFL? Seriously?

Did the TEAM quit after the FSU loss each of the last two years? You bet they did. That is a coaching failure not a player failure. Our first NC came after loss to the gator -- our real rival. Howard knew the team could have come apart and has said so. HE took SUCCESSFUL action to prevent it. (Bye the way, that was Bernie's first game and he DID NOT score on his first drive like Brad did, which could not find a way to win with) Al's teams have quit on him every single year he was been here. The players have been changed but the result remained the same. The one constant is your boy, Al Golden. One more thing, remember Al used have a true freshman QB as an excuse several times last year -- Brad has already been greased for the slip and slide under the wheels. Al use to exchange emails with me while I defended him during the BTW deal-- he even sent a signed photo. Once I started questioning Mark and the Al defense he never did again. I may be black and white but at least I have seen BOTH colors.

Pointing out performance issues isn't "throwing players under the bus." There is not a coach in football that doesn't do the exact same thing.

 

[Consigliere]

Keeping the lines of contact open doesn't necessarily mean he is going to be the one doing the contacting. Did you contact them after that? Not saying he did or didn't, but it sounds like you are trying to hold them to the standard that Duke set, which is going way above and beyond the call of duty.

Also, at no point did he mention Duke being one of the "me" guys on the team, nor did the various other current players who have made similar statements about players giving up. So I have no idea whether Duke is even one of those they were talking about.

As for "calling out last year's players....that is done by many coaches. I've seen direct quotes from Meyer, Saban, many others pointing out that there were elements in the team that were a problem to team chemistry, and stating that the team in a particular season is much better off chemistry-wise than the year before after some players moved on (Saban even used the "energy vampires" term to refer to some of those players). At no point were specific players named nor did they say that it was every player that left, but that there was a very real locker room problem and team chemistry problem with a subset of players is something that has been stated many times by players as well as the coaching staff.

Only Al's mother would dare to compare him to Saba and Urban -- unless you are talking about slimy. Those guys are explaining why a team lost one game instead of going undefeated or finished 5th one year. Golden has been throwing players under the bus since the K State game exposed his rancid defense and his boyfriend. Duke under the bus as early as the USF game to cover his lack of QB talent in his third year.

DHucks is speaking from personal experience while you seem to speak from an unnatural love affair with Al. I use to support him but the constant pitching of players under nearest bus drove me away. NOT ONCE has the man even implied that coaches needed to do better or find another job but he persist in blaming players and fans for all his failures. Open your eyes and see.

Absolute BS. While Golden has underperformed, he has not "thrown players under the bus" any more than any other coach does every day, every season. That's a little narrative some of you have jumped on because you have to make up as many scenarios as possible to whine about. Your vision is so black and white that there can never be more than one problem. The reality is, while Golden has not done a great job, there is definitely blame to go around for some of the players as well.

Are you actually trying to maintain a position that Al Golden did NOT blames the players for being "out of position, missing assignments, failing to make their read ..." after the calls for Marks scalp following the KS disaster became to load to ignore? Al did not criticize Duke after the USF game? And that each year Al has NOT thrown dirt on the players leaving for the NFL? Seriously?

Did the TEAM quit after the FSU loss each of the last two years? You bet they did. That is a coaching failure not a player failure. Our first NC came after loss to the gator -- our real rival. Howard knew the team could have come apart and has said so. HE took SUCCESSFUL action to prevent it. (Bye the way, that was Bernie's first game and he DID NOT score on his first drive like Brad did, which could not find a way to win with) Al's teams have quit on him every single year he was been here. The players have been changed but the result remained the same. The one constant is your boy, Al Golden. One more thing, remember Al used have a true freshman QB as an excuse several times last year -- Brad has already been greased for the slip and slide under the wheels. Al use to exchange emails with me while I defended him during the BTW deal-- he even sent a signed photo. Once I started questioning Mark and the Al defense he never did again. I may be black and white but at least I have seen BOTH colors.

Pointing out performance issues isn't "throwing players under the bus." There is not a coach in football that doesn't do the exact same thing.

I know right. The guy doesn't even comment about the amount of fun we're having too! Who cares if the players quit either? Fun is what is matters.

 

[niner]

Stating a player was out of position is considered "thrown under the bus"??




Some soft *** ninjas in here.

 

[WhatTheHell]

Al is the epitome of a me-guy. That's what's so comical about his "obversations" of the team.

-He refuses to change up his scheme to fit his personnel.
-He left us high and dry in the heat of last year's recruiting cycle to pursue another gig without notifying our admin
-He refused to explain the situation to recruits, their parents, current players, or even his bosses
-He refused a negotiable, and sensible buyout for the betterment of the team
-Has refused to accept any responsibility for on-field production; rather he has blamed the team, social media, television scheduling, the cloud, the university, rain, and wind as all means to justify why he has lost every single winnable game.

Fact.

you do realize that none of what you wrote is fact. You confuse your suppositions with facts, and like many of the people on here, you seem to think that if you say it, write it, or preach it enough times that your opinions will actually morph into truths.

Not so.

Really?

Al Golden didn't go missing during the Penn State thing? He interviewed with them and went ghost for a few days. I can go pull a dozen articles.

He never blamed night games, YouTube, "scholarship reductions" (only 3) when pressed about his performance? Same thing, easy to find quotes.

He isn't constantly alluding to getting rid of "me guys," ie selfish players this season?


How can you dispute reality? You Golden guys are terrifying.

 

[duke4heisman]

You're missing the point here. I've been searching for the quote, but he was slated as saying that he would keep in contact, and I was asked pre Cincinnati in the interview about him saying that. He's never done it at all. They were upset at me saying we were family, and what I did wasn't what family does to each other.

What family doesn't check in on sick family?

Shouldn't family keep promises?

Isn't him calling out last year's players airing family business too?

Open your eyes man. Those are only a few questions. He shouldn't be doing things like this.

If it's really family, you keep these things in house.

Keeping the lines of contact open doesn't necessarily mean he is going to be the one doing the contacting. Did you contact them after that? Not saying he did or didn't, but it sounds like you are trying to hold them to the standard that Duke set, which is going way above and beyond the call of duty.

Also, at no point did he mention Duke being one of the "me" guys on the team, nor did the various other current players who have made similar statements about players giving up. So I have no idea whether Duke is even one of those they were talking about.

As for "calling out last year's players....that is done by many coaches. I've seen direct quotes from Meyer, Saban, many others pointing out that there were elements in the team that were a problem to team chemistry, and stating that the team in a particular season is much better off chemistry-wise than the year before after some players moved on (Saban even used the "energy vampires" term to refer to some of those players). At no point were specific players named nor did they say that it was every player that left, but that there was a very real locker room problem and team chemistry problem with a subset of players is something that has been stated many times by players as well as the coaching staff.

Only Al's mother would dare to compare him to Saba and Urban -- unless you are talking about slimy. Those guys are explaining why a team lost one game instead of going undefeated or finished 5th one year. Golden has been throwing players under the bus since the K State game exposed his rancid defense and his boyfriend. Duke under the bus as early as the USF game to cover his lack of QB talent in his third year.

DHucks is speaking from personal experience while you seem to speak from an unnatural love affair with Al. I use to support him but the constant pitching of players under nearest bus drove me away. NOT ONCE has the man even implied that coaches needed to do better or find another job but he persist in blaming players and fans for all his failures. Open your eyes and see.

Absolute BS. While Golden has underperformed, he has not "thrown players under the bus" any more than any other coach does every day, every season. That's a little narrative some of you have jumped on because you have to make up as many scenarios as possible to whine about. Your vision is so black and white that there can never be more than one problem. The reality is, while Golden has not done a great job, there is definitely blame to go around for some of the players as well.

Are you actually trying to maintain a position that Al Golden did NOT blames the players for being "out of position, missing assignments, failing to make their read ..." after the calls for Marks scalp following the KS disaster became to load to ignore? Al did not criticize Duke after the USF game? And that each year Al has NOT thrown dirt on the players leaving for the NFL? Seriously?

Did the TEAM quit after the FSU loss each of the last two years? You bet they did. That is a coaching failure not a player failure. Our first NC came after loss to the gator -- our real rival. Howard knew the team could have come apart and has said so. HE took SUCCESSFUL action to prevent it. (Bye the way, that was Bernie's first game and he DID NOT score on his first drive like Brad did, which could not find a way to win with) Al's teams have quit on him every single year he was been here. The players have been changed but the result remained the same. The one constant is your boy, Al Golden. One more thing, remember Al used have a true freshman QB as an excuse several times last year -- Brad has already been greased for the slip and slide under the wheels. Al use to exchange emails with me while I defended him during the BTW deal-- he even sent a signed photo. Once I started questioning Mark and the Al defense he never did again. I may be black and white but at least I have seen BOTH colors.

Just like Butch's teams bounced back from a devastating loss to Syracuse with a win over #2 UCLA and that 2000 team became the GOAT after a loss to Washington. THAT'S COACHING!!

 

[UknowWhat]

Duke is a great kid and was a really good player for us but my perspective was he and his mother were all about Duke.

Still love the kid and wish him well.

I agree... love the kid and i will follow him for the rest of his career..And i can't blame his mom either for wanting the absolute best for her child.. didn't like the shade she casted..but who am I. I have witness personally kids buying in to a program. Shaq's high school faced some of the same issues... Long story short .. a team that was loaded with ME talented kids went 1 - 9.. 3 years later not as much raw talent but have brought in to the new ideas of the program goes 10 - 0 through the regular season and two playoff wins.. Miami may not have as much raw talent...but they are a better TEAM this year.

 

[Gatorhater]

Keeping the lines of contact open doesn't necessarily mean he is going to be the one doing the contacting. Did you contact them after that? Not saying he did or didn't, but it sounds like you are trying to hold them to the standard that Duke set, which is going way above and beyond the call of duty.

Also, at no point did he mention Duke being one of the "me" guys on the team, nor did the various other current players who have made similar statements about players giving up. So I have no idea whether Duke is even one of those they were talking about.

As for "calling out last year's players....that is done by many coaches. I've seen direct quotes from Meyer, Saban, many others pointing out that there were elements in the team that were a problem to team chemistry, and stating that the team in a particular season is much better off chemistry-wise than the year before after some players moved on (Saban even used the "energy vampires" term to refer to some of those players). At no point were specific players named nor did they say that it was every player that left, but that there was a very real locker room problem and team chemistry problem with a subset of players is something that has been stated many times by players as well as the coaching staff.

Only Al's mother would dare to compare him to Saba and Urban -- unless you are talking about slimy. Those guys are explaining why a team lost one game instead of going undefeated or finished 5th one year. Golden has been throwing players under the bus since the K State game exposed his rancid defense and his boyfriend. Duke under the bus as early as the USF game to cover his lack of QB talent in his third year.

DHucks is speaking from personal experience while you seem to speak from an unnatural love affair with Al. I use to support him but the constant pitching of players under nearest bus drove me away. NOT ONCE has the man even implied that coaches needed to do better or find another job but he persist in blaming players and fans for all his failures. Open your eyes and see.

Absolute BS. While Golden has underperformed, he has not "thrown players under the bus" any more than any other coach does every day, every season. That's a little narrative some of you have jumped on because you have to make up as many scenarios as possible to whine about. Your vision is so black and white that there can never be more than one problem. The reality is, while Golden has not done a great job, there is definitely blame to go around for some of the players as well.

Are you actually trying to maintain a position that Al Golden did NOT blames the players for being "out of position, missing assignments, failing to make their read ..." after the calls for Marks scalp following the KS disaster became to load to ignore? Al did not criticize Duke after the USF game? And that each year Al has NOT thrown dirt on the players leaving for the NFL? Seriously?

Did the TEAM quit after the FSU loss each of the last two years? You bet they did. That is a coaching failure not a player failure. Our first NC came after loss to the gator -- our real rival. Howard knew the team could have come apart and has said so. HE took SUCCESSFUL action to prevent it. (Bye the way, that was Bernie's first game and he DID NOT score on his first drive like Brad did, which could not find a way to win with) Al's teams have quit on him every single year he was been here. The players have been changed but the result remained the same. The one constant is your boy, Al Golden. One more thing, remember Al used have a true freshman QB as an excuse several times last year -- Brad has already been greased for the slip and slide under the wheels. Al use to exchange emails with me while I defended him during the BTW deal-- he even sent a signed photo. Once I started questioning Mark and the Al defense he never did again. I may be black and white but at least I have seen BOTH colors.

Pointing out performance issues isn't "throwing players under the bus." There is not a coach in football that doesn't do the exact same thing.

It is when you do to defend yourself, your systems, your friends and your record. Funny thing is that we have been blessed with some of the greatest coaches in football -- Shula, Howard, JJ - I cannot remember any of them acting like Al. Players were scared of everyone of them but because they did not want to face them behind closed doors after a bad performance, not from fear of PUBLIC criticism. I was actually close with both Don and Howard. Shula would bench you for a fumble BUT NEVER mention it in public. Heck, I remember him leaving a dude in the cutting one dude, a starter, at half-time in a game and never saying a negative word about him afterward.

Perhaps you can enlighten us to the names of those coaches you speak of. Before you throw Urban out there, I don't seem to remember him complaining about what a cancer Percy was and that dude bossed Urban around like a dog. Al loves players when they are hurt of dying, but cannot stand talented healthy ones. Then again, abusive husbands always feel sorry for wives once they are hurting bad enough. Mind you, I cried when he was on the ground holding Lewis. As time has passed his multiple personalization, or whatever, have become apparent. YOUR dude has serious mental health issues that do beyond his incompetence as a football coach.

 

[westcoastcanes]

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