Mario on Gattis / Staff

[Category69]

"from afar" he noticed...sounds to me that he watched past coaches cave to internal and external pressure to fire coaches.

I like your translation better than the way I took it.

Yeah that's kinda how I took it too, basically that alumni and fans on Twitter hounding to fire X coach and spewing it on recruits, players, etc. I get that's not good for the program, especially when you aren't seeing everything from the inside. But you can't preach accountability, and have under 100 yards, before that going half a season without an offensive touchdown.

 

[Cane6]

It’s time to shave the stache and not stay juicy

Gattis is not the only sacrifice to the football gods that must be made

 

[JZCane0825]

Not a Ponce stan by any means but anyone saying that he isn't qualified to be a P5 QB coach, let alone OC, really doesn't know ball. App State had a top 25 offense last year with Ponce as OC (rated higher than Lashlee) and looked nothing like the system we currently run now.

They haven't fallen off a ton since last year, but he's far from the issue as far as why our offense looks the way it does.

 

[cocanes]

Mario to gattis at end of season

 

[TRick72]

Gattis is not the only sacrifice to the football gods that must be made

 

[KANE]

Is it just me or does this new OC need to be a QB coach? This way he's with our QBs after every series making adjustments and getting feedback from what our QB sees on the field.
This also allows for the WR coach to actively coach our WRs instead of being focused on calling plays.

I didn't see it being a problem, I thought we'd hit a homerun honestly, but now looking at it, Mario/Rad need to make an adjustment. Sometimes the greatest idea in the world just doesn't work out....when we heard these hires, no one on CIS thought we'd be sitting at 5-6, forced to win vs Pitt to get bowl eligible.

Its ALWAYS seemed crazy to me to have an OC that’s NOT a QB coach. Like the ONLY WAY our situation could’ve worked, in my opinion, is that the OC/WR coach would have to know, trust, and had previously worked with the QB coach beforehand. It’s very important for the OC (if he’s not the QB coach), to be closer to the most important player on the field. He should definitely have been given the leeway to bring his own QB coach on board. That’s one of the reasons that I think that there is sooo much disconnect on that side of the ball.

 

[AlphaMarshan]

You also have to remember Mario wants future hires to see he won't throw them under the bus quickly and that he will do his best to stick by them publicly. Him doing things this way is to avoid burning bridges with future hires. Not everything is about keeping fans happy, especially if he wants to hire good coaches.

How do people not see this?

People on CIS literally want Mario to come out and be like, "lol, Gattis is a total ******* clown and I fired him this morning. Guy sucks and his offense sucks. Pack your bags, moron." What solid coach with any self-respect would want to come here after that?

He is clearly taking the diplomatic approach and saying, "It's on all of us for our offensive struggles..." while pretty much implying that Gattis won't be here. It's the better option.

 

[Home Slice]

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A lot of political rhetoric at this point

 

[Jassid82]

You also have to remember Mario wants future hires to see he won't throw them under the bus quickly and that he will do his best to stick by them publicly. Him doing things this way is to avoid burning bridges with future hires. Not everything is about keeping fans happy, especially if he wants to hire good coaches.

You guys I think are overplaying the "Mario doesnt want to burn bridges by firing coaches mid-season" thing. HC and assistant coaches get fired all the time midseason! Especially for historically poor performances. And yes, I think we all agree we have seen some historically bad performances by this offense..It was funny and all when we were clowning how Mack Brown fired Manny Diaz at UT after the BYU blowout midseason but now you guys want to be diplomatic?

I think this is all ego. I think Mario doesnt want to cave to the fans/alumni/media, etc who are basically demanding he fire certain coaches and do it immediately. He wants everyone to know that he is the man in charge and he will do things his way and according to his plan. And thats fair, but he better not swing and miss on another OC or his "prodigal son" story will be done before it even starts.

 

[TRick72]

Its ALWAYS seemed crazy to me to have an OC that’s NOT a QB coach. Like the ONLY WAY our situation could’ve worked, in my opinion, is that the OC/WR coach would have to know, trust, and had previously worked with the QB coach beforehand. It’s very important for the OC (if he’s not the QB coach), to be closer to the most important player on the field. He should definitely have been given the leeway to bring his own QB coach on board. That’s one of the reasons that I think that there is sooo much disconnect on that side of the ball.

I’m not a fan of the WR/OC combo either but ironically 3 of the guys we keep bringing up as candidates are just that. Brady, Scott and Saterfield. Saterfield is the only one I believe who has worked with some members of this staff and Brady is the only one who had success that didn’t previously work with his QBC

 

[Alex Del Piero]

You guys I think are overplaying the "Mario doesnt want to burn bridges by firing coaches mid-season" thing. HC and assistant coaches get fired all the time midseason! Especially for historically poor performances. And yes, I think we all agree we have seen some historically bad performances by this offense..It was funny and all when we were clowning how Mack Brown fired Manny Diaz at UT after the BYU blowout midseason but now you guys want to be diplomatic?

I think this is all ego. I think Mario doesnt want to cave to the fans/alumni/media, etc who are basically demanding he fire certain coaches and do it immediately. He wants everyone to know that he is the man in charge and he will do things his way and according to his plan. And thats fair, but he better not swing and miss on another OC or his "prodigal son" story will be done before it even starts.

The only difference is that Mack Brown's seat was hotter than **** at that time (he was let go after that season if I'm not wrong) and he HAD TO fire Manuelito.

That's definitely not the case with Mario

 

[Salt]

Not a Ponce stan by any means but anyone saying that he isn't qualified to be a P5 QB coach, let alone OC, really doesn't know ball. App State had a top 25 offense last year with Ponce as OC (rated higher than Lashlee) and looked nothing like the system we currently run now.

They haven't fallen off a ton since last year, but he's far from the issue as far as why our offense looks the way it does.

if Gattis can make the qb and offense in general look terrible I imagine that his assistant coaches can be impacted the same way.

 

[JHallCanes]

You guys I think are overplaying the "Mario doesnt want to burn bridges by firing coaches mid-season" thing. HC and assistant coaches get fired all the time midseason! Especially for historically poor performances. And yes, I think we all agree we have seen some historically bad performances by this offense..It was funny and all when we were clowning how Mack Brown fired Manny Diaz at UT after the BYU blowout midseason but now you guys want to be diplomatic?

I think this is all ego. I think Mario doesnt want to cave to the fans/alumni/media, etc who are basically demanding he fire certain coaches and do it immediately. He wants everyone to know that he is the man in charge and he will do things his way and according to his plan. And thats fair, but he better not swing and miss on another OC or his "prodigal son" story will be done before it even starts.

Nah man. If this was “all ego” then he wouldn’t even be here in the first place. As dramatic as we want to be on message boards, coaches don’t operate like that or they don’t have jobs.

It doesn’t even make sense to compare it to Mack and Diaz.

He’s going to be let go after one season in a new regime and you’re acting like that’s not fast enough?

Super dramatic take to be honest. So if you’re being overly dramatic about it, then of course Mario’s level headed approach won’t make any sense.

 

[blushrts]

How do people not see this?

People on CIS literally want Mario to come out and be like, "lol, Gattis is a total ******* clown and I fired him this morning. Guy sucks and his offense sucks. Pack your bags, moron." What solid coach with any self-respect would want to come here after that?

He is clearly taking the diplomatic approach and saying, "It's on all of us for our offensive struggles..." while pretty much implying that Gattis won't be here. It's the better option.

I don't know if there is an offensive coordinator in College football today who doesn't know multiple games without a touchdown is a fireable offense. Like immediately. You just say "it didn't work out, wasn't good enough and we are going another direction".

Teams scoring points for fun all over every Saturday.

 

[reirei92]

If Mario is as serious about winning as he makes it seem, then (hopefully) Gattis has been done for a while.

I honestly would've loved to have seen him fired weeks ago to get it over with and maybe win a few more games with Ponce calling plays (not that he would be any better, but worth a shot). Maybe knowing a new OC is coming could've helped with recruiting too, but we'll see how this plays out.

As most OC's are QB coaches that probably means Ponce is gone too unless he wants an off field role.

 

[KrazyCane]

Mario HAS TO FIRE GATTIS!!! If he doesn't he loses w.e. creditability he has left. If you want to play the tough guy, you need to make the tough decisions.

Lol whatever credibility he has left??

These lane Kiffin groupies spin fake narratives better than CNN.

 

[Ozzieman81]

Not a Ponce stan by any means but anyone saying that he isn't qualified to be a P5 QB coach, let alone OC, really doesn't know ball. App State had a top 25 offense last year with Ponce as OC (rated higher than Lashlee) and looked nothing like the system we currently run now.

They haven't fallen off a ton since last year, but he's far from the issue as far as why our offense looks the way it does.

Like I have said, we have no idea what goes on behind closed doors and Cristobal Comments about the staff I think falls in line with Ponce and Gattis maybe not mixing together. I believe that Ponce can turn this offense around but it's up to Mario to make the necessary changes for us to succeed whether its giving the reigns to Ponce or getting a new OC unless he gonna let it ride for 2 years.

 

[JZCane0825]

The only difference is that Mack Brown's seat was hotter than **** at that time (he was let go after that season if I'm not wrong) and he HAD TO fire Manuelito.

That's definitely not the case with Mario

Not to mention Manny was in year 3 as DC at Texas. Coordinators rarely, if ever, get fired in the middle of their first year, especially in year 1 of a coaching regime. Bad look all around.

 

[#1cane]

Mario isn’t throwing any coaches under the bus, and being a stoic leader.

@Cribby has been saying it for weeks. Gattis is gone, looking like Ponce too

Totally agree and hope Mario parts ways with multiple staffers. Could get ugly fast!! How will it effect incoming recruits?

 

[SFbayCane]

How do people not see this?

People on CIS literally want Mario to come out and be like, "lol, Gattis is a total ******* clown and I fired him this morning. Guy sucks and his offense sucks. Pack your bags, moron." What solid coach with any self-respect would want to come here after that?

He is clearly taking the diplomatic approach and saying, "It's on all of us for our offensive struggles..." while pretty much implying that Gattis won't be here. It's the better option.

Many folks who get to peek behind the curtain have been telling us for several weeks now that Gattis is gone after the Pitt game. Protocol mandated that they had to be coy about the way they told us here. Now we're seeing Mario taking that exact same approach and some folks STILL don't get it. It is what it is. Just gotta let the slower folk continue to wallow in it for another week or two.