"Lack of depth"

[The Franchise]

Stop with that bullsh*t argument. Miami is building depth at plenty of spots now that the underclassmen have played in some games. Even the backup linebackers are gaining experience, creating depth. And I love how some of you say we lack depth but don't a **** thing gets mentioned about how fsu looks on defense now that they have injuries over there... But I thought they had superior talent and backups to everyone.... the way some of our fans think is that depth issues and injuries are only exclusive to Miami, they are in every program...

We DO lack depth, and playing freshmen doesn't change the fact that our backups aren't great in a lot of spots. And fsu IS playing 4/5* backups. What their excuse is for sucking I don't know, but it's not lack of talent.

Because their backups are 4 and 5 stars means that there good? Maybe we try to get Ermon Lane or George Campbell to transfer here. Bama played three freshman in their secondary last season and won a title.

These guys are FSU honks. They believe everything they read about this stockpile of talent everywhere.

As you adroitly pointed out, Erma Lame is a 4 star backup WR. He sucks ****, and I wouldn't want him anywhere near our roster. How about that 4 star monster DT backup ***** Bryant?

FSU's starting LBs suck, so why would anyone assume that they have good depth at LB?

 

[The Franchise]

We certainly lack quality depth. That said, most teams other than Bama, OSU, and a few others have this same problem.

OTOH, our front line talent, other than at OL and DB is top-notch.

That's kinda the point. We want to be championship caliber again, so we need depth similar to those guys.

No reasonable person expects us to win a championship this year. Our depth is fine for what our goals should be this year.

 

[Consigliere]

We certainly lack quality depth. That said, most teams other than Bama, OSU, and a few others have this same problem.

OTOH, our front line talent, other than at OL and DB is top-notch.

That's kinda the point. We want to be championship caliber again, so we need depth similar to those guys.

No reasonable person expects us to win a championship this year. Our depth is fine for what our goals should be this year.

You're wasting your time.

 

[blackvern]

We certainly lack quality depth. That said, most teams other than Bama, OSU, and a few others have this same problem.

OTOH, our front line talent, other than at OL and DB is top-notch.

That's kinda the point. We want to be championship caliber again, so we need depth similar to those guys.

No reasonable person expects us to win a championship this year. Our depth is fine for what our goals should be this year.

i kind of agree with you here

unfortunately if I see Terry Mccray, Ryan Mayes, RObert Knowles and Ryan Fines getting crunch playing time this year we will not be reaching any goals...Charles Perry kind of scares me too but im not there with him yet is still hold hope

 

[kryptonite]

Stop with that bullsh*t argument. Miami is building depth at plenty of spots now that the underclassmen have played in some games. Even the backup linebackers are gaining experience, creating depth. And I love how some of you say we lack depth but don't a **** thing gets mentioned about how fsu looks on defense now that they have injuries over there... But I thought they had superior talent and backups to everyone.... the way some of our fans think is that depth issues and injuries are only exclusive to Miami, they are in every program...

We DO lack depth, and playing freshmen doesn't change the fact that our backups aren't great in a lot of spots. And fsu IS playing 4/5* backups. What their excuse is for sucking I don't know, but it's not lack of talent.

Because their backups are 4 and 5 stars means that there good? Maybe we try to get Ermon Lane or George Campbell to transfer here. Bama played three freshman in their secondary last season and won a title.

These guys are FSU honks. They believe everything they read about this stockpile of talent everywhere.

As you adroitly pointed out, Erma Lame is a 4 star backup WR. He sucks ****, and I wouldn't want him anywhere near our roster. How about that 4 star monster DT backup ***** Bryant?

FSU's starting LBs suck, so why would anyone assume that they have good depth at LB?

Other than star ratings, how do we judge the quality of backups who haven't played? So chief keef didn't pan out, but did you not think having him as a freshman backup was enviable? Didn't we all wish we'd gotten him at the time? Whatever is going on with fsu right now, everybody seems to think they've out recruited us for years, so how is their depth not better?

 

[Calinative]

We certainly lack quality depth. That said, most teams other than Bama, OSU, and a few others have this same problem.

OTOH, our front line talent, other than at OL and DB is top-notch.

That's kinda the point. We want to be championship caliber again, so we need depth similar to those guys.

No reasonable person expects us to win a championship this year. Our depth is fine for what our goals should be this year.

Yes, I agree.

 

[CaptJackSparrow]

I don't care about FSU.

So you just care about depth in theory and depth in a vacuum? You don't care about our depth as it relates to the teams we play against?

I mean I don't know FSU's team or what their depth situation is. But I do know that they have consistently ranked at or near the top in recruiting the past 5 or so years, while we really haven't done great recruiting, and we've lost quite a few players in the offseason (Some of which were good losses though). I think that is a decent way to show the talent level and depth of most teams.

But more importantly I'm just saying we have a **** load of room to improve the talent on our team. We very clearly don't have as good of a team as we've had the past 2 years. Yet with actual coaching I think we win 10 games for the first time in over a decade.

One of the worst posts I've ever read.

You don't know anything about FSU, but you assume they have better depth everywhere because they've had higher ranked classes. Then, you tell we "very clearly don't have as good of a team as we've had the past 2 years"? Did you really type that fcking ****?

Get your fcking head right, son. Come on. Do you live in an assisted living facility? How do you function thinking like this?

I'm tough on you because I have empathy for your plight. Don't let me down, son.

If you think our talent is better than it has been the past 2 years, thats all anyone needs to see how ****ing stupid the **** you say is.

We are best we have been at QB, DL, and TE in ten years. However if we have too many injuries at LB or CB we could be playing walk-ons at those postions at the end of the year. And even though we have a lot of good players most great two teams have two or three superstars and right now we don't have any. I am not gonna crown Kaaya cause he torched App St when he has a track record for having a few bad games every year. I have no reason to think that this year is gonna be any different, especially when he already has one bad game under his belt.

 

[Calinative]

So you just care about depth in theory and depth in a vacuum? You don't care about our depth as it relates to the teams we play against?

I mean I don't know FSU's team or what their depth situation is. But I do know that they have consistently ranked at or near the top in recruiting the past 5 or so years, while we really haven't done great recruiting, and we've lost quite a few players in the offseason (Some of which were good losses though). I think that is a decent way to show the talent level and depth of most teams.

But more importantly I'm just saying we have a **** load of room to improve the talent on our team. We very clearly don't have as good of a team as we've had the past 2 years. Yet with actual coaching I think we win 10 games for the first time in over a decade.

One of the worst posts I've ever read.

You don't know anything about FSU, but you assume they have better depth everywhere because they've had higher ranked classes. Then, you tell we "very clearly don't have as good of a team as we've had the past 2 years"? Did you really type that fcking ****?

Get your fcking head right, son. Come on. Do you live in an assisted living facility? How do you function thinking like this?

I'm tough on you because I have empathy for your plight. Don't let me down, son.

If you think our talent is better than it has been the past 2 years, thats all anyone needs to see how ****ing stupid the **** you say is.

We are best we have been at QB, DL, and TE in ten years. However if we have too many injuries at LB or CB we could be playing walk-ons at those postions at the end of the year. And even though we have a lot of good players most great two teams have two or three superstars and right now we don't have any. I am not gonna crown Kaaya cause he torched App St when he has a track record for having a few bad games every year. I have no reason to think that this year is gonna be any different, especially when he already has one bad game under his belt.

I mean at TE in the past decade we've had Greg Olsen (played in '06), Jimmy Graham, Dedrick Epps, Asante Cleveland, Chase Ford, Richard Gordon, and Clive Walford all make the League. And out of that group, only Cleveland (Still on an active roster) and Ford were undrafted. Not sure I'd say this crop is better than the 2010 group of Cleveland, Ford, Gordon, and Walford. The '09 group is probably right behind them with Epps, Graham, Cleveland, Gordon.

Also, the '09/'10 DL group is better too: Allen Bailey, Dyron Dye, Marcus Forston and Olivier Vernon. **** the 2010 Qb's were also Harris and Morris who rank 2nd and 3rd in career passing yards and TD's. Granted Kaaya will pass them in these stats (expect maybe not Jacory in TD's).

 

[brock]

I mean I don't know FSU's team or what their depth situation is. But I do know that they have consistently ranked at or near the top in recruiting the past 5 or so years, while we really haven't done great recruiting, and we've lost quite a few players in the offseason (Some of which were good losses though). I think that is a decent way to show the talent level and depth of most teams.

But more importantly I'm just saying we have a **** load of room to improve the talent on our team. We very clearly don't have as good of a team as we've had the past 2 years. Yet with actual coaching I think we win 10 games for the first time in over a decade.

One of the worst posts I've ever read.

You don't know anything about FSU, but you assume they have better depth everywhere because they've had higher ranked classes. Then, you tell we "very clearly don't have as good of a team as we've had the past 2 years"? Did you really type that fcking ****?

Get your fcking head right, son. Come on. Do you live in an assisted living facility? How do you function thinking like this?

I'm tough on you because I have empathy for your plight. Don't let me down, son.

If you think our talent is better than it has been the past 2 years, thats all anyone needs to see how ****ing stupid the **** you say is.

We are best we have been at QB, DL, and TE in ten years. However if we have too many injuries at LB or CB we could be playing walk-ons at those postions at the end of the year. And even though we have a lot of good players most great two teams have two or three superstars and right now we don't have any. I am not gonna crown Kaaya cause he torched App St when he has a track record for having a few bad games every year. I have no reason to think that this year is gonna be any different, especially when he already has one bad game under his belt.

I mean at TE in the past decade we've had Greg Olsen (played in '06), Jimmy Graham, Dedrick Epps, Asante Cleveland, Chase Ford, Richard Gordon, and Clive Walford all make the League. And out of that group, only Cleveland (Still on an active roster) and Ford were undrafted. Not sure I'd say this crop is better than the 2010 group of Cleveland, Ford, Gordon, and Walford. The '09 group is probably right behind them with Epps, Graham, Cleveland, Gordon.

Also, the '09/'10 DL group is better too: Allen Bailey, Dyron Dye, Marcus Forston and Olivier Vernon. **** the 2010 Qb's were also Harris and Morris who rank 2nd and 3rd in career passing yards and TD's. Granted Kaaya will pass them in these stats (expect maybe not Jacory in TD's).

No Marcus fortson wasn't good at Miami beyond his freshman year. We had 4 solid players in on that dline in 2009(Bailey, Vernon,Andrew smith, Marcus Robinson). This group Miami has now have even more good players especially at dtackle

 

[demcanes26]

Stop with that bullsh*t argument. Miami is building depth at plenty of spots now that the underclassmen have played in some games. Even the backup linebackers are gaining experience, creating depth. And I love how some of you say we lack depth but don't a **** thing gets mentioned about how fsu looks on defense now that they have injuries over there... But I thought they had superior talent and backups to everyone.... the way some of our fans think is that depth issues and injuries are only exclusive to Miami, they are in every program...

We DO lack depth, and playing freshmen doesn't change the fact that our backups aren't great in a lot of spots. And fsu IS playing 4/5* backups. What their excuse is for sucking I don't know, but it's not lack of talent.

Because their backups are 4 and 5 stars means that there good? Maybe we try to get Ermon Lane or George Campbell to transfer here. Bama played three freshman in their secondary last season and won a title.

These guys are FSU honks. They believe everything they read about this stockpile of talent everywhere.

As you adroitly pointed out, Erma Lame is a 4 star backup WR. He sucks ****, and I wouldn't want him anywhere near our roster. How about that 4 star monster DT backup ***** Bryant?

FSU's starting LBs suck, so why would anyone assume that they have good depth at LB?

Other than star ratings, how do we judge the quality of backups who haven't played? So chief keef didn't pan out, but did you not think having him as a freshman backup was enviable? Didn't we all wish we'd gotten him at the time? Whatever is going on with fsu right now, everybody seems to think they've out recruited us for years, so how is their depth not better?

Why do you assume that Josh Brown would be a better LB than Owens or Perry, if they had to play? Why do you assume that Taylor would be a better player than Young if both had to CB for their teams? If you are waiting on Miami to out-recruit FSU on paper to win, then you are going to be waiting a long time. Miami hasn't ever out-recruited FSU, yet found a way to beat them.

I just don't get the love fest for FSU. They have routinely gotten their *** handed to them by lesser teams in terms of recruiting, and yet, people still think that they are some unbeaten team that can just turn on the switch whenever they feel like it. Trust your eyes, FSU isn't very good. That doesn't mean we will beat them, just means that we shouldn't be thinking that they are this great team.

 

[kryptonite]

We DO lack depth, and playing freshmen doesn't change the fact that our backups aren't great in a lot of spots. And fsu IS playing 4/5* backups. What their excuse is for sucking I don't know, but it's not lack of talent.

Because their backups are 4 and 5 stars means that there good? Maybe we try to get Ermon Lane or George Campbell to transfer here. Bama played three freshman in their secondary last season and won a title.

These guys are FSU honks. They believe everything they read about this stockpile of talent everywhere.

As you adroitly pointed out, Erma Lame is a 4 star backup WR. He sucks ****, and I wouldn't want him anywhere near our roster. How about that 4 star monster DT backup ***** Bryant?

FSU's starting LBs suck, so why would anyone assume that they have good depth at LB?

Other than star ratings, how do we judge the quality of backups who haven't played? So chief keef didn't pan out, but did you not think having him as a freshman backup was enviable? Didn't we all wish we'd gotten him at the time? Whatever is going on with fsu right now, everybody seems to think they've out recruited us for years, so how is their depth not better?

Why do you assume that Josh Brown would be a better LB than Owens or Perry, if they had to play? Why do you assume that Taylor would be a better player than Young if both had to CB for their teams? If you are waiting on Miami to out-recruit FSU on paper to win, then you are going to be waiting a long time. Miami hasn't ever out-recruited FSU, yet found a way to beat them.

I just don't get the love fest for FSU. They have routinely gotten their *** handed to them by lesser teams in terms of recruiting, and yet, people still think that they are some unbeaten team that can just turn on the switch whenever they feel like it. Trust your eyes, FSU isn't very good. That doesn't mean we will beat them, just means that we shouldn't be thinking that they are this great team.

Why do you assume they wouldn't be better? They haven't played, so I have no idea. My point, as I clearly stated, was that we haven't seen some of these guys play so the only measure we have is stars. It may not be a good measure, but it's what we have until they step on the field.

fsu may have a bunch of soft kids, but on paper they have not gotten their *** handed to them by lesser teams. Bama and osu are pretty much the only teams that have recruited better consistently.

As for keef and erma, they are still very talented athletes, they just aren't good football players. They obviously aren't interested in working so they've been passed up by others who are. It's not ability that lacks on that team, it's effort.

All that said, stop pretending like I said fsu was a better team or that they're unbeatable. I thought they were beatable before the season started and they look even more so now. I made a very specific point, the rest is stuff others have brought to the discussion.

 

[StoneWallLoungeCane]

Still one of the worst posters on the board. You're absolutely clueless, broke, and you have the IQ of a squirrel.

 

[brock]

Still one of the worst posters on the board. You're absolutely clueless, broke, and you have the IQ of a squirrel.

Shut the f_ck up idiot. I didn't say Miami had world beaters as backups, not many teams do other than Bama, osu... but the depth looks a lot better now that some of the backups have actually played in games and have gotten some valuable experience. The first couple of games have created more depth on the team. Nothin is wrong with saying that. While depth is important it's not the end all be all for a game like some of you insinuate. Will it help? Sure but the starters will still play majority of the minutes... yeah injuries happen but just because one guy gets injured doesn't mean the whole season is lost

 

[clg003]

Stop with that bullsh*t argument. Miami is building depth at plenty of spots now that the underclassmen have played in some games. Even the backup linebackers are gaining experience, creating depth. And I love how some of you say we lack depth but don't a **** thing gets mentioned about how fsu looks on defense now that they have injuries over there... But I thought they had superior talent and backups to everyone.... the way some of our fans think is that depth issues and injuries are only exclusive to Miami, they are in every program...

So your talking bout the coaches? Thats what I am assuming but wanted to clarify since they are the ones who keep saying that we have a lack of depth. Now I am torn... do I believe them or you? Um i will have to ask Manny this weekend when I see him.

 

[brock]

Stop with that bullsh*t argument. Miami is building depth at plenty of spots now that the underclassmen have played in some games. Even the backup linebackers are gaining experience, creating depth. And I love how some of you say we lack depth but don't a **** thing gets mentioned about how fsu looks on defense now that they have injuries over there... But I thought they had superior talent and backups to everyone.... the way some of our fans think is that depth issues and injuries are only exclusive to Miami, they are in every program...

So your talking bout the coaches? Thats what I am assuming but wanted to clarify since they are the ones who keep saying that we have a lack of depth. Now I am torn... do I believe them or you? Um i will have to ask Manny this weekend when I see him.

It doesn't take an Einstein brain to figure out that we are low on numbers at linebacker. Richt has backed off a lot of the claims that Miami is lacking in depth at receiver and oline. Miami is not lacking in depth at de, dt,receiver,qb,tight end. Miami has low numbers in the secondary but has enough for this season. Take a look at fsu their Dbs already were getting torched with Derwin James on the field, now that he is off it might be worse. Everyone is not loaded with multiple starting caliber players that are backups like at bama like most think they are... At least not the teams that we play

 

[Left Hook]

Seriously a lot of ppl on this board don't know what theyre talking about when it comes to this overblown subject. How is a lack of depth going to be the reason we lose a couple games??? Where do you all see walk ons getting significant playing time on this team??? The only reason we are going to lose any games is if we are outplayed simple as that. We have more than enough depth and talent on this team to win any game on the schedule. It's like you all have to make up **** to talk about.

I agree.

Too many Goldenized fans here who are weak minded and expect losses. Only an idiot predicts 7-8 wins. ****, Golden would have stumbled to 8 wins.

This team has a great chance of going 12 - 0. If they do, they will be pure **** for whoever they face in the ACCCG.

 

[DTP]

I'll stack our depth against anybody on our schedule. There aint but three teams that can look Miami eye to eye in the ones and twos on our schedule. Sitting at this table I'm good with the hand we've been dealt, if we move to a different table with a bigger pot..maybe not so much. If you want to talk about playoffs you can have a depth argument, but if we're talking about the coastal, we've got enough. ACC championship game might be a problem depth wise.

This is a legit point.

 

[Left Hook]

Still one of the worst posters on the board. You're absolutely clueless, broke, and you have the IQ of a squirrel.

Shut the f_ck up idiot. I didn't say Miami had world beaters as backups, not many teams do other than Bama, osu... but the depth looks a lot better now that some of the backups have actually played in games and have gotten some valuable experience. The first couple of games have created more depth on the team. Nothin is wrong with saying that. While depth is important it's not the end all be all for a game like some of you insinuate. Will it help? Sure but the starters will still play majority of the minutes... yeah injuries happen but just because one guy gets injured doesn't mean the whole season is lost

I agree. We have depth. More importantly, we have built/developed experience, especially on defense. Now, will our experienced depth get better over time under MR. Of course it will.

Depth was never a concern for me. Our guys are getting better every week. See, what these Goldenized Losers fail to see is that squads like fsu, who are supposed to have all this depth, look like **** because they lack front line talent, especially on defense. We have solid front line talent across the board on Offense and Defense.

We can definitely go 12 - 0. If we do, we will bring pure **** to whoever we play in the ACCCG.

 

[StoneWallLoungeCane]

Still one of the worst posters on the board. You're absolutely clueless, broke, and you have the IQ of a squirrel.

Shut the f_ck up idiot. I didn't say Miami had world beaters as backups, not many teams do other than Bama, osu... but the depth looks a lot better now that some of the backups have actually played in games and have gotten some valuable experience. The first couple of games have created more depth on the team. Nothin is wrong with saying that. While depth is important it's not the end all be all for a game like some of you insinuate. Will it help? Sure but the starters will still play majority of the minutes... yeah injuries happen but just because one guy gets injured doesn't mean the whole season is lost

It's really amazing how dumb you are. You clearly didn't learn your lesson after you spent all of last year lecturing everybody on why you were so right about Golden and how everyone else was just being a "hater." Stop posting and wasting bandwith, broke.

 

[brock]

Still one of the worst posters on the board. You're absolutely clueless, broke, and you have the IQ of a squirrel.

Shut the f_ck up idiot. I didn't say Miami had world beaters as backups, not many teams do other than Bama, osu... but the depth looks a lot better now that some of the backups have actually played in games and have gotten some valuable experience. The first couple of games have created more depth on the team. Nothin is wrong with saying that. While depth is important it's not the end all be all for a game like some of you insinuate. Will it help? Sure but the starters will still play majority of the minutes... yeah injuries happen but just because one guy gets injured doesn't mean the whole season is lost

It's really amazing how dumb you are. You clearly didn't learn your lesson after you spent all of last year lecturing everybody on why you were so right about Golden and how everyone else was just being a "hater." Stop posting and wasting bandwith, broke.

You don't have to agree with me man but chill with the insults. At the end of the day we are all canes. There's no need for it