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Justin Fuente fired at Va Tech

Fuente's been a dead man walking since last year but VT couldn't justify the 13 million buyout publicly and gave him and extra year. VT is below us on the coaching search tier and will be looking or a different kind of coach. Blacksburg is in bum**** nowhere in the mountains and their alumni base still believes and thinks that the next coach is going to be a guy that will be there for 10-20 years.

Shane Beamer will be the first call as a courtesy call but I'd expect them to end up with a guy like Napier or Chadwell. Whoever the coach will have some sort of "take back the dmv" type of recruiting slogan since VT pretty much abandoned the state.
 
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Canedog said:
Men’s basketball at Miami is garbage.
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The priorities at UM should reflect:

AD >>> Men's Basketball Coach

Head Football Coach >>> Men's Basketball Coach

Offensive Coordinator >>> Men's Basketball Coach

Defensive Coordinator >>> Men's Basketball Coach

All Football Position Coaches >>> Men's Basketball Coach

Head Strength & Conditioning Coach for Football >>> Men's Basketball Coach

I like College Basketball, but tbh we need to put 90 percent of our eggs in the Football basket
 
dk72 said:
Just because Manny hasn't been fired yet doesn't mean contact with potential replacements hasn't happened. Any good candidate would currently be coaching anyway, so we wouldn't officially hire them until the season is over.
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And Cristobol is in the middle of a run at the college football playoff, he's not going to accept anything until that's over.
 
Canedude08 said:
People overrate what VT can be. They have been doing it for almost two decades. The ONLY time VT is nationally relevant is when Miami is a garbage dump. I'm not joking, look at their history. A competent Miami consistently beats VT, that's been true for the better part of 3 decades. Beamer was a unique hire, he gave them an identity that maxes out what they can be, but they are the kind of program that needs outside help to get anywhere. A program like Clemson or FSU can win, no matter who is up or down, provided they make a quality hire. FSU can win independently of what Miami does, same with Clemson.

You also have a problem with VT in that the Beamer faction is still firmly in charge. Fuente couldn't build the culture he wanted and learned the hard way: NEVER BE THE MAN THAT FOLLOWS THE MAN. They have a legit AD in Babcock, so I wouldn't be shocked if they made another solid hire. Sometimes, hires that make all the sense in the world don't work out, but if you keep making solid hires you'll hit on at least one, unless you are at a place that refuses to provide the support needed to succeed.
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I’m sure people said this same about Clemson and had that same thinking before Dabo got it rolling ( remember clemsoning was a thing not long ago until it wasn’t).

The ACC is desperate for another team to compete with Clemson and if a team were to reveal themselves or step up to the plate now they could make a leap similar to Clemson and claim their market share. Maybe not at the magnitude of Clemson but enough to stay relevant and become place with recruits.

Va Tech has a lot of potential if they make a good hire.
 
DC3 said:
Fuente's been a dead man walking since last year but VT couldn't justify the 13 million buyout publicly and gave him and extra year. VT is below us on the coaching search tier and will be looking or a different kind of coach. Blacksburg is in bum**** nowhere in the mountains and their alumni base still believes and thinks that the next coach is going to be a guy that will be there for 10-20 years.
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Agree with all this.

VPI got a helluva fan base, though.

Lane Stadium is poppin' for big games.
 
smack99 said:
But yet let’s hold on to Manny for two more weeks. Does absolutely nothing to hold onto to that bozo
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I agree with you but I guess the University wants to save $2 million on the buyout.

Otherwise, there is no point.
 
Tony4Miami said:
Texas Tech, UConn & Georgia Southern all hired coaches already so it is possible
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TooColdToHold said:
It depends who you are pursuing to be the next coach. Texas Tech already has hired their new coach in place.
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OK, let me rephrase. If you're looking to hire an employed coach,( I hope Miami isn't scraping the unemployment line) you have to wait until the season is over.
 
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PIPO said:
I agree with you but I guess the University wants to save $2 million on the buyout.

Otherwise, there is no point.
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Let him ride it out. All our top targets won't be interviewing for jobs until January anyway once bowl season is over. I'm fine with using that 2 million saved and putting toward the new coaches buyout.
 
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Gi0logy said:
Agreed with most of that however, you can most definitely fire your HC without the new AD in place. Jenn is interim so it would just be her firing Manny at the behest of the board.
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You're correct. Still I think that potential AD candidates would prefer that responsibility be given to them.
 
cleverjdub said:
I’m sure people said this same about Clemson and had that same thinking before Dabo got it rolling ( remember clemsoning was a thing not long ago until it wasn’t).

The ACC is desperate for another team to compete with Clemson and if a team were to reveal themselves or step up to the plate now they could make a leap similar to Clemson and claim their market share. Maybe not at the magnitude of Clemson but enough to stay relevant and become place with recruits.

Va Tech has a lot of potential if they make a good hire.
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Fundamental differences between VT and Clemson

1)Funding--VT doesn't have the infrastructure Clemson has, and NEVER WILL. VT is a solid state school, with some nice alumni, but they aren't all in like the typical IPTAY booster is. The whole concept of "Clemsoning" was that like Texas and other schools that spend a ton, Clemson would find ways to underachieve. VT's program is about overachieving compared to the talent they do attract. It's been rare and I mean incredibly rare for VT to have the kind of rosters Clemson had under guys like Bowden, where you had multiple high end NFL guys but still went 9-3. Dabo leveraged the recruiting even more, and you've seen the results. Clemson is an SEC school in the ACC, Tech isn't anywhere near that.

2)Recruiting--Even when things are going well, VT doesn't not lock down the tidewater area. Schools like Penn State routinely take the elites out of the area, and VT then takes the second tier guys with the occasional elite talent. Beamer and his better staffs were masters at player development, they developed guys that were solid and made them into **** good college players. They would take those guys and combine them with the elites they could get and that would be their product. Keep in mind, Tech, even when Beamer was at his peak, even with Miami being utter dogcrap was usually a solid top 10-15 program, not a top 5. It took them getting a once in a life time talent in Vick for them to even sniff a National Championship.
 
Canedude08 said:
People overrate what VT can be. They have been doing it for almost two decades. The ONLY time VT is nationally relevant is when Miami is a garbage dump. I'm not joking, look at their history. A competent Miami consistently beats VT, that's been true for the better part of 3 decades. Beamer was a unique hire, he gave them an identity that maxes out what they can be, but they are the kind of program that needs outside help to get anywhere. A program like Clemson or FSU can win, no matter who is up or down, provided they make a quality hire. FSU can win independently of what Miami does, same with Clemson.

You also have a problem with VT in that the Beamer faction is still firmly in charge. Fuente couldn't build the culture he wanted and learned the hard way: NEVER BE THE MAN THAT FOLLOWS THE MAN. They have a legit AD in Babcock, so I wouldn't be shocked if they made another solid hire. Sometimes, hires that make all the sense in the world don't work out, but if you keep making solid hires you'll hit on at least one, unless you are at a place that refuses to provide the support needed to succeed.
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Also helps when you have Mike Vick at QB for a few years. VT has a ceiling, and it's lower than ours.
 
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cleverjdub said:
I’m sure people said this same about Clemson and had that same thinking before Dabo got it rolling ( remember clemsoning was a thing not long ago until it wasn’t).

The ACC is desperate for another team to compete with Clemson and if a team were to reveal themselves or step up to the plate now they could make a leap similar to Clemson and claim their market share. Maybe not at the magnitude of Clemson but enough to stay relevant and become place with recruits.

Va Tech has a lot of potential if they make a good hire.
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Clemson, Florida State, Virginia Tech and Miami fan bases are passionate about college football — the first three with an SEC mentality and us in our own, unique way.

UNC and UVA fans are mostly wine and cheesers who attend games to tailgate with Clark and Buffy.

Almost nobody in Georgia cares about Georgia Tech, even in Atlanta.

Duke and Wake Forest probably would drop football if the ACC were to allow it.

NC State and Louisville lack the wherewithal to climb out of their big brothers' shadows

BC, Pitt, Syracuse ... Seriously, who cares?

We're stuck (for now) in a league with a lot of deadweight
 
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