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Hoyacane1620 said:
You can't turn a program around completely in 2-3 years. It takes longer than that to get the personnel where it needs to be. This was a rebuild, no matter what people think. It was broken from the inside out. I think it's come a long way from two years ago- no one rationally expected to win this game today.
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It was not competitive even for a minute
 
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Canesfan12 said:
Yea so miss me with any fire the HC talk because that would literally make us worse for years to come. Also i still believe we are 2nd/3rd in ACC and 1/2 in Coastal. We just played the likely back to back national champs with 34% more blue chips than us or some ****. Their RB weighed more than our LBs and still runs a 4.5 most likely…. So what we witnessed today shouldn’t happen until maybe Clemson in ACC title game
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Hoyacane1620 said:
You can't turn a program around completely in 2-3 years. It takes longer than that to get the personnel where it needs to be. This was a rebuild, no matter what people think. It was broken from the inside out. I think it's come a long way from two years ago- no one rationally expected to win this game today.
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Does 6 years on campus not show you what you have and his limits?
 
Scared high school team playing an NFL team. Over powdered at each position. Big fan King, but Van Dyke and Garcia need to get on the field. Next week is App State, it's gonna be close. Kicking an punting was the only bright spot. OL is weak and was owned all day, linebackers are undersized. WR's can't breakaway to get open. Lashlee called a POS game! 7-5 or 8-4 at best.
 
IndayArtHauz said:
Don’t feel like you need to read mine, I just needed to stretch my fingers.

Ahh, well this sucked, didn’t it? I said it in the game day thread but I expected this type of outcome, still, seeing it unfold was excruciating. It’s like the friend you know keeps going back to the same relationship or vice over and over again, and you’re still there for him, but buddy is going to **** his life away no matter what you do. This game was a bad idea and I’m glad it’s over.

There are only two tiers of college football right now:

1. Bama/Clemson
2. Everyone Else

OU, OSU, UGA, might cycle through Tier 1 every few years, but they don’t have the same fine print in their deal with the devil. They will always be so, so, so close, but rarely ever achieve excellence. Trust me, those programs do the exact same soul searching we all do, they just do it once a year instead of 3 times (or 5 on occasion).

Now, onto why I’m relatively upbeat, because I am, dammit. (I’m also not upset with anyone who wants to burn all their new merch and/or wants Diaz fired even more than they did before kickoff. I just hope you all have the balls to quit following the team for a few months. But you don’t.)

- MENIAL FORTITUDE - As much as I hate the celebrating after a play being down 30, I think this team actually has a chance to not get mentally throttled down after this loss. That’s good, and it showed in the late game drives.

- THE BALL CATCHERS AIGHT - I think we have 4 solid WRs who will score a lot of points this year, which is an amazing turnaround from last season. Unthinkable, really. If King doesn’t average 250 ypg something is wrong (and something may be wrong), because the players are there and they are more than good enough, imo. Key Smiff had to be subbed out multiple times because Josh Jobe was crying so loudly the refs threatened to suspend the game. That’s not a knock on Jobe, Key Smiff just steals your game and treats it like a voodoo doll.

- OH **** NO, OL YES - The OL is fine. I don’t think it’s amazing, but it was just flat out overmatched against the strongest unit in the country. I think we should abandon anything like a dive up the middle, however, because it makes the game of football sad and me very angry.

- DEFENSIVE FINE? The DL was better than I thought. Young was on the move all night, which only seems to give him a force multiplier. In an normal game against regular humans, it will not be that way. The DTs in particular, and Harvey, looked solid and very well conditioned. I expect to be pleasantly surprised by the results of this unit over the course of the season. Bama averaged 3.9 YPC, which doesn’t even make sense to me.

- FAIR CONDITIONING - Conditioning in general seemed improved. Especially for a D that got drug around all game and often had Enos-era breaks between series, they held up well and that speaks to their mental as well as physical conditioning.

- THE DON, p1 - The Man needs to be the lead back. I love Cam, glad he’s a Cane, but sometimes it’s like he looks for ways to get tackled. I know it’s almost impossible to improve an RB’s vision, so it’s unfair to think he’s going to suddenly bloom into Christian Okoye. He is what he is and works through traffic like a semi. Don is game ready, he's punishing and sound in every aspect of the game. Plus he’s just a complete back.

- THE DON, p2 (The Man Who Sent Toto to Kansas) - I will henceforth only refer to Don as The Man. He broke To’o’to’s shoulder, even though Toto had a clean kill shot ****ed and loaded like he was Dr. Disrespect with the only sniper rifle on the map. Instead his lame a** got recoiled to the moon, and from my couch I wept at the sight. I cannot and will not legally marry that otherwise insignificant play, but I will carry its legacy in my bosom like an unborn child.

- LASH IS TRASH? Guy is a genuine WTF for me. I do not understand what he’s trying to do, or when he’s trying to do it. The marriage between him and King is like that awkward couple who “should work” but just can’t get over the fact that the love each other without liking each other. I don’t get understand their chemistry at all, but I’ve only had a few relationships and they were all super short until I found THE ONE and we’ve been together ever since. Both the dudes running the O act like kissing cousins in these games and it slows everything down dramatically. Can’t run tempo when your flow is mud.

- SOME DUMB SUMMARY - Manny Diaz is who Miami DESERVES at this point, for better or for worse. For every on-field reason we couldn’t compete with Alabama tonight, there are 3-5 reasons off the field we couldn’t. Diaz is trying as hard as humanly possible to figure this out, and he’s probably going to be in over his head in games like this for the next several years. He's never going to win more than the ACC, but right now Miami could not do more than that with Nick Saban himself, I kid you not. We are in the morass of Tier 2, like it or not, until I die. Unless we molt this skin and become a beautiful butterfly.

- SMS, p2 - I think Alabama probably scores 40 points on 95% of the teams in America tonight. That’s not a cover for the defense, it’s just worth considering. If app state scores 40 then ok yeah the D has covid. I just don’t know yet, and somehow I’m more concerned about the performance of the O than I am the D.

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I said it last year - I am not impressed with Lashlee and Miami could do better. Everyone was focused on the amount of points the defense gave up, but kept overlooking the lack of offense. Miami didn't lose to UNC last year 62-52. We lost 62-26 struggled to score against a horrible defense. We didn't lose to Clemson 42-35. We lost 42-17. Lashlee is simply not a creative OC. He's a step up from Enos, but that's it. Football is all about offense now. Lashlee has shown what he is, an average OC who can win games when he has a big edge in talent. When Miami needs some schematic magic to surprise a more talented opponent, he's not the guy. Just go back to the UF - Bama SEC championship game to see how a less talented team can compete with Bama. Say what you will about Mullen, but the dude can coach offense.

If Miami is in the market for a HC in the near future, I hope the school finally takes my advice and hires the guy I said we should have hired instead of Diaz... Mr. Lane Kiffin.
 
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OldhamA said:
Lashlee is odd because he has moments of genius (like those fake QB dive plays last year that ended up going 70+ for Mallory et al - plays he'd set up earlier in the game), but then fails at the simple things (like say a QB sneak from the shotgun on the goalline when your Oline has had it's **** pushed in all night).

He is what he is - a young coach who's lucked into an amazing College football playbook on his travels and is trying to figure it all out.
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Lashlee is overrated around here. He’s not Pat Nix or Enos bad, but he’s not the genius some make him out to be. He’s above average but not great, and not good enough to beat Alabama clearly
 
We the Boss said:
Does 6 years on campus not show you what you have and his limits?
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Lol. No. You saying this shows me you just say **** to say **** with no thought behind it. Manny’s main issue before becoming HC was LB recruiting and LB play. Every other aspect of our defense was top tier and they gave us the chance for ATLEAST 10 more wins throughout his DC stint that we lost.. as well as probably 10 or so games we did end up winning that were solely because of his defense. Now, some games our defense imploded with the bend don’t break philosophy… but that was what, 3-4 games as DC? 2 to Wisconsin i believe and 2 or so to Clemson? Who is to say that in 2-3 years, with how well we are improving on recruiting, that that eliminates those big blow out games like the 2 Wisconsin games, 2 Clemson games, and this Bama game?
 
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TimeBum said:
I said it last year - I am not impressed with Lashlee and Miami could do better. Everyone was focused on the amount of points the defense gave up, but kept overlooking the lack of offense. Miami didn't lose to UNC last year 62-52. We lost 62-26 struggled to score against a horrible defense. We didn't lose to Clemson 42-35. We lost 42-17. Lashlee is simply not a creative OC. He's a step up from Enos, but that's it. Football is all about offense now. Lashlee has shown what he is, an average OC who can win games when he has a big edge in talent. When Miami needs some schematic magic to surprise a more talented opponent, he's not the guy. Just go back to the UF - Bama SEC championship game to see how a less talented team can compete with Bama. Say what you will about Mullen, but the dude can coach offense.

If Miami is in the market for a HC in the near future, I hope the school finally takes my advice and hires the guy I said we should have hired instead of Diaz... Mr. Lane Kiffin.
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can't judge lashlee based off king. king is VERY overrated. he has no feel for the position
 
Canesfan12 said:
Lol. No. You saying this shows me you just say **** to say **** with no thought behind it. Manny’s main issue before becoming HC was LB recruiting and LB play. Every other aspect of our defense was top tier and they gave us the chance for ATLEAST 10 more wins throughout his DC stint that we lost.. as well as probably 10 or so games we did end up winning that were solely because of his defense. Now, some games our defense imploded with the bend don’t break philosophy… but that was what, 3-4 games as DC? 2 to Wisconsin i believe and 2 or so to Clemson? Who is to say that in 2-3 years, with how well we are improving on recruiting, that that eliminates those big blow out games like the 2 Wisconsin games, 2 Clemson games, and this Bama game?
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Name a game other than ND, who was half a fraud, where many stopped a top offense? His defense is one dimensional and while it’s better than what proceeded it, he is pedestrian in big games because he can’t get the LB position right and missed on all tier one corners for half a decade.

Let’s see how this season closes out before we count on improved recruiting.
 
nycane said:
can't judge lashlee based off king. king is VERY overrated. he has no feel for the position
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Last year when we didn't have WRs who catch, I didn't see much creativity out of Lashlee to scheme around it. Multiple RBs? Dual TEs? Rarely. IMO, he doesn't want to deviate from his system and thinks the issue is execution and not the scheme, which is the same issue we've had with many other coaches.
 
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Anyone who wants to see elite defensive coaching i.e. teaching each position where to be what to do and fundamentals like tackling and edge control should tune into UGA Clemson who are putting on a master class. (Helps both QBs seem like virgins too).
 
TimeBum said:
Last year when we didn't have WRs who catch, I didn't see much creativity out of Lashlee to scheme around it. Multiple RBs? Dual TEs? Rarely. IMO, he doesn't want to deviate from his system and thinks the issue is execution and not the scheme, which is the same issue we've had with many other coaches.
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when kosi came in against OK state, he light them up. I think it could be king that he doesn't trust him
 
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nycane said:
can't judge lashlee based off king. king is VERY overrated. he has no feel for the position
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You keep saying this like he just switched to qb. The guy has been a qb his whole life. And you can judge lashlee because some of his play calling and designs are questionable
 
nycane said:
when kosi came in against OK state, he light them up. I think it could be king that he doesn't trust him
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Maybe so. Oddly enough I think King would have been better in Richts RPO than Lashlees system and Kosi would have been better in Lashlees. Kosi didn't have the mental aptitude to make the RPO reads consistently but the kid could sling it. A spread offense with much easier reads suited him well. On the flip side, I don't think King has Kosi's natural arm talent, but he is a smarter QB and more instinctual runner.
 
We the Boss said:
Name a game other than ND, who was half a fraud, where many stopped a top offense? His defense is one dimensional and while it’s better than what proceeded it, he is pedestrian in big games because he can’t get the LB position right and missed on all tier one corners for half a decade.

Let’s see how this season closes out before we count on improved recruiting.
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VT that same season a week or so before. I understand the frustration in big games, the D isn’t consistent and can easily argue the games we win the other team was overrated while the games we lost because of D, we were overrated and Diaz sucks. But i think there’s multiple layers to it and i think Diaz won’t be DC for more than this year and maybe next, unless our D is dominant from here on out in every single game.
 
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