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For anyone who thinks that background checks shouldnt take long:

When the Indianapolis Colts had the 1st pick in the 1998 NFL Draft, they had to pick between Peyton Manning and Ryan Leaf. We all know what Peyton turned into and we all know what Leaf turned into. However, at that point in time, it was not clear at all. Both guys had identical scores and test measurements. Only thing that made people believe in Leaf more than Manning was Leafs cannon of an arm that Manning didnt have.

The Colts made a last second evaluation of both in terms of on-field-production. They reviewed tapes deep into the night on a throw by throw basis, all the way down to how the QBs compare in terms of throwing routes.

The Colts, at the end of it, decided to go with Manning due to a psychological test they did. Manning was the more stable personality, while Leaf... wasnt. They found out, all the way in High School, that Leaf was considered an arrogant person, overly emotional, who clashed with his teammates on a pretty regular basis.

It took them months to get all of the information.
 
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Cane6 said:
@Cribby @DMoney

It sounds like there is a ton of momentum to have Alonzo H brought on board. One component that has never been made clear, and especially with someone like Jurich potentially being hired as AD, what is your understanding of Alonzo’s role?

I stated this in another thread that the majority on CIS assume the football program gets completely carved out and handed to Zo to run. I have a differing opinion on Zo’s scope of responsibility and focus
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If it is Jurich-Highsmith, then you read the tea leaves.

Jurich is high-level. He is the type of guy who will be great in external functions and lobbying. Could envision him taking a forward-looking role with things like playoff expansion, ACC TV contracts, NCAA rule(s) changes, NIL issues, etc. He would also be a tremendous UM-community-communicator: "here is what other schools are doing, here is what we need to do, this is what we need from you". And Jurich's instincts on hiring coaches are well-known. Plus, let's not forget, Jurich is 65.

Which takes us to Alonzo, who is 10 years younger than Jurich. Alonzo will be an AD in training. Jurich can utilize Alonzo to be his UM sherpa for the first few years, and to tap his knowledge of what other universities are doing. Alonzo's focus will be football, but for the porsters who mock Alonzo for maybe/maybe not knowing anything about the women's volleyball program, it's insulting. Alonzo is very intelligent and aware, as well as proud of UM. ****, all those women's sports compete right outside the Hecht, and UM is a small campus, so it's hard NOT to know about every sport that's competing.

Finally, if you consider the reports that Jurich expressed interest a while ago, and you have watched the sidelines over the last couple of months to see Alonzo everywhere, it becomes impossible to conclude that these two would be some kind of shotgun marriage. I'm sure that Alonzo has met Tom many times over the years when Alonzo was working in the NFL.

But we've got mopes who are going to cite vague business organizational tenets to support their sky-is-falling nonsense about this being a disastrous pairing.
 
Bender said:
For anyone who thinks that background checks shouldnt take long:

When the Indianapolis Colts had the 1st pick in the 1998 NFL Draft, they had to pick between Peyton Manning and Ryan Leaf. We all know what Peyton turned into and we all know what Leaf turned into. However, at that point in time, it was not clear at all. Both guys had identical scores and test measurements. Only thing that made people believe in Leaf more than Manning was Leafs cannon of an arm that Manning didnt have.

The Colts made a last second evaluation of both in terms of on-field-production. They reviewed tapes deep into the night on a throw by throw basis, all the way down to how the QBs compare in terms of throwing routes.

The Colts, at the end of it, decided to go with Manning due to a psychological test they did. Manning was the more stable personality, while Leaf... wasnt. They found out, all the way in High School, that Leaf was considered an arrogant person, overly emotional, who clashed with his teammates on a pretty regular basis.

It took them months to get all of the information.
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If they want a background check they should just ask Amazon

****ers know me better than I do
 
RedPill Stepdad said:
woke up feeling like Jurich will be announced today. no sources, just a big believer of the law of attraction and speaking things into existence.


this extremely off topic but it's not new post worthy either. I have a question for the movie buffs. there was a movie that came out in the 90's with a talking watermelon and a girl in it. I can't find the name of the movie anywhere on Google. I know that is vague but it's all I remember. if someone could tell me the name I would appreciate it.
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Miami is winning a bowl game. Book it
 
aelmiami said:
This is the biggest concern I have with Mario. His QB philosophy reminds me of Kirby’s. He has a freshman he honestly I can’t imagine would be a clear downgrade from Brown but yet Brown remains the starter. I don’t know how good this kid is in practice or anything but Brown isn’t the guy I’d tie my wagon to. It’s a lot like picking Fromm over Fields and Bennett over whoever they have now. Part of me thinks they learned this from Saban. He always played the safe route at QB until he modernized his offense. If Mario does that the sky is the limit for him regardless of the program he’s running.
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With that defensive talent Kirby put together you don’t even need a QB lol.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
If it is Jurich-Highsmith, then you read the tea leaves.

Jurich is high-level. He is the type of guy who will be great in external functions and lobbying. Could envision him taking a forward-looking role with things like playoff expansion, ACC TV contracts, NCAA rule(s) changes, NIL issues, etc. He would also be a tremendous UM-community-communicator: "here is what other schools are doing, here is what we need to do, this is what we need from you". And Jurich's instincts on hiring coaches are well-known. Plus, let's not forget, Jurich is 65.

Which takes us to Alonzo, who is 10 years younger than Jurich. Alonzo will be an AD in training. Jurich can utilize Alonzo to be his UM sherpa for the first few years, and to tap his knowledge of what other universities are doing. Alonzo's focus will be football, but for the porsters who mock Alonzo for maybe/maybe not knowing anything about the women's volleyball program, it's insulting. Alonzo is very intelligent and aware, as well as proud of UM. ****, all those women's sports compete right outside the Hecht, and UM is a small campus, so it's hard NOT to know about every sport that's competing.

Finally, if you consider the reports that Jurich expressed interest a while ago, and you have watched the sidelines over the last couple of months to see Alonzo everywhere, it becomes impossible to conclude that these two would be some kind of shotgun marriage. I'm sure that Alonzo has met Tom many times over the years when Alonzo was working in the NFL.

But we've got mopes who are going to cite vague business organizational tenets to support their sky-is-falling nonsense about this being a disastrous pairing.
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100% agree and what and ideal scenario for Miami to be in combining the skill sets and experience of Zo and Jurich.

The mentorship component also makes sense.

God **** this school…. This scenario makes so much sense, if the ***** this up because DiMare’s kid I’ll be livid
 
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Cane6 said:
100% agree and what and ideal scenario for Miami to be in combining the skill sets and experience of Zo and Jurich.

The mentorship component also makes sense.

God **** this school…. This scenario makes so much sense, if the ***** this up because DiMare’s kid I’ll be livid
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Unless, as others have indicated there will be some sort of accommodation made with regard to the Baseball team (more scholarships, bat and ball rule, etc.), that Jurich will sit down with DiMare about.
 
Bender said:
A background check in its length can vary, it can be longer or shorter depending on the baggage.

This isnt simply calling up three colleagues. In Jurichs case, they might go through the entire FBI investigation or large parts of it.
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You are 100% spot on. But this is also why Blake James should have been fired a long time ago. There was absolutely no reason or need to compress all of this into this forced timeline. If they canned Blake after NC St, they could have spent this last month doing these background checks without an imminent end of football season and a decision on Manny.
 
Cane6 said:
100% agree and what and ideal scenario for Miami to be in combining the skill sets and experience of Zo and Jurich.

The mentorship component also makes sense.

God **** this school…. This scenario makes so much sense, if the ***** this up because DiMare’s kid I’ll be livid
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You and me both.

I'm not completely on the "fire Gino" train yet, though I know he is not performing at Fraser-Morris levels. I know how much Gino loves UM baseball, and I certainly hope that we can utilize Jurich to lobby for NCAA rule changes that will allow baseball to be more competitive.

Think about this, MLB is (arguably) the biggest revenue sport in America (I know, I know, they play a LOT more games), while COLLEGE baseball uses volunteer assistant coaches. The balance is insane.

We need to make baseball (and softball) "head count" scholarship sports, allow for larger PAID coaching staffs, and improve the TV contracts for baseball in particular.

Then, if Gino still puts up a .667 winning percentage and can't get past the regionals, find a new coach.

Hard to follow two HOF coaches, generally, but in the current rules system, which has allowed about 20 Florida directional state schools to narrow the gap on us, it's tough.
 
Rickd said:
It would make sense that Jurich, now 65 years old, might be OK with having Zo on board as "Assistant AD" with specific responsibilities .. initially .. involving working with the HC (whoever that might be) in developing an elite recruiting department and also assisting in working with coaches on player development. He would essentially be in a training mode to become Jurich's replacement at some time in the future. This would enable Zo to grow into the AD role, and supplement his NFL front office experience with legit D1 AD experience. No other role makes any sense to me.
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As a Ravens fan I'm for this idea as that's what was done with Decosta and Newsome. Tho over a longer "training period" and it's seemingly been a pretty seamless transition.
 
section9 said:
Unless, as others have indicated there will be some sort of accommodation made with regard to the Baseball team (more scholarships, bat and ball rule, etc.), that Jurich will sit down with DiMare about.
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The dumb thing about all of this, is that Jurich knows what a successful college baseball program looks like from Louisville

Any opposition from the BOT would make me want to remove that particular person
 
wspcane said:
You are 100% spot on. But this is also why Blake James should have been fired a long time ago. There was absolutely no reason or need to compress all of this into this forced timeline. If they canned Blake after NC St, they could have spent this last month doing these background checks without an imminent end of football season and a decision on Manny.
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Agreed on Blake's timing. If you go back to my posts, I was saying this after Michigan State. To "use Blake's early firing" as a signal to the marketplace, coaching candidates, and recruits.

I understand the politeness on Manny (i.e., coaching out the season), but this also highlights the difference between clueless/spineless Frenk and his two hired assassins. We only got REAL progress once the "cleaners" were brought into the job...

By the way, I googled Echevarria, and this was the only photo I could find:

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TheOriginalCane said:
You and me both.

I'm not completely on the "fire Gino" train yet, though I know he is not performing at Fraser-Morris levels. I know how much Gino loves UM baseball, and I certainly hope that we can utilize Jurich to lobby for NCAA rule changes that will allow baseball to be more competitive.

Think about this, MLB is (arguably) the biggest revenue sport in America (I know, I know, they play a LOT more games), while COLLEGE baseball uses volunteer assistant coaches. The balance is insane.

We need to make baseball (and softball) "head count" scholarship sports, allow for larger PAID coaching staffs, and improve the TV contracts for baseball in particular.

Then, if Gino still puts up a .667 winning percentage and can't get past the regionals, find a new coach.

Hard to follow two HOF coaches, generally, but in the current rules system, which has allowed about 20 Florida directional state schools to narrow the gap on us, it's tough.
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To clarify, are these baseball specific issues you referenced a Miami issue, or broader issues for all of college baseball?

I don’t follow college baseball closely but know the minimal scholarships available.

I’m just trying to separate the discussion points
 
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Cane6 said:
To clarify, are these baseball specific issues you referenced a Miami issue, or broader issues for all of college baseball?

I don’t follow college baseball closely but know the minimal scholarships available.

I’m just trying to separate the discussion points
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Bat restrictions. Went to a BB Core barrel some time ago.
 
Bender said:
A background check in its length can vary, it can be longer or shorter depending on the baggage.

This isnt simply calling up three colleagues. In Jurichs case, they might go through the entire FBI investigation or large parts of it.
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I know what a background check is an how it operates. I know they are taking alot longer right now just do to Covid and the lack of staff out there right now. Also, it depends on the states that he has lived in and how long they can take to get back to you. I know New York is one of them that takes a good amount of time to return a background check. However, if this has been going on for 5-6 weeks now, like what has been said they should have an idea of the background of these candidates.
 
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