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RVACane said:
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Dude that’s Deliverance. Take that to the Mountaineer Tears thread.
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How about now?

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305to954 said:
Napier could’ve had MULTIPLE JOBS at the P5 level for years..we’ll see what he can do..but dude has good reputation in the coaching community..I watched that UF a spring game..he has a QB. I think Napier Will definitely get talent In Gainesville and his offenses wi be good. They put together a good staff up there. I just think even running at their max capacity..Miami at its max is playoffs annually. UF isnt
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He put together a decent middle-of-the-road G5 staff, except for DB. Are you high?
 
OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
He put together a decent middle-of-the-road G5 staff, except for DB. Are you high?
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In recruiting, they’re already questioning Juluke, RB’s coach, who is better than Knox but whoever they brought in would be better than that guy and he should land Webb by default so he’ll look good to some of them. Others know that Baxter is the standard to judge him now after he whiffed on Citizen.

Also Keary Colbert, WR’s coach, is another they have their scopes on. He just took a dude that ran a 12.76 100m as you know and i wouldn’t be shocked if they didn’t make the Final 5 for Hykeem Williams’ official visits.

Sling Blade Billy (“SBB”) has 2 OL coaches and no dedicated on-field QB coach beyond himself. Wasn’t he a WR coach at Bama??? He has a GA off-field as the QB coach. That’s not going to help him recruiting-wise but we’ll see. Maybe someone will like him but the odds are that it was a bad move.

He’ll approach recruiting better than Mullet but Mullet had a reputation for being a QB coach and offense savant. He also had some known P5 coaching names on staff.

I think Corey Raymond will do what he does as long as he’s there. They’ll pick up some other pieces here and there. That said, I don’t see it with the staff he has. This is a learn on the job staff minus Raymond on a big boy level brand whereas our staff is loaded with guys who already learned in their positions on a big boy level.
 
RVACane said:
In recruiting, they’re already questioning Juluke, RB’s coach, who is better than Knox but whoever they brought in would be better than that guy and he should land Webb by default so he’ll look good to some of them. Others know that Baxter is the standard to judge him now after he whiffed on Citizen.

Also Keary Colbert, WR’s coach, is another they have their scopes on. He just took a dude that ran a 12.76 100m as you know and i wouldn’t be shocked if they didn’t make the Final 5 for Hykeem Williams’ official visits.

Sling Blade Billy (“SBB”) has 2 OL coaches and no dedicated on-field QB coach beyond himself. Wasn’t he a WR coach at Bama??? He has a GA off-field as the QB coach. That’s not going to help him recruiting-wise but we’ll see. Maybe someone will like him but the odds are that it was a bad move.

He’ll approach recruiting better than Mullet but Mullet had a reputation for being a QB coach and offense savant. He also had some known P5 coaching names on staff.

I think Corey Raymond will do what he does as long as he’s there. They’ll pick up some other pieces here and there. That said, I don’t see it with the staff he has. This is a learn on the job staff minus Raymond on a big boy level brand whereas our staff is loaded with guys who already learned in their positions on a big boy level.
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Agreed. This is similar to the Golden hire. A coach with a limited semi successful HC track record at a lower level. He’s kind of like an empty vessel. There was a general feeling in CFB that he was one of the G5 “up and comers”. Which is nice, but no guarantee of success.

Right now the weakness that is most glaring is obviously his recruiting.

If we’re having the same types of conversations next year it’s not going to look good for them in the slightest. He might be one of those stubborn mule heads that thinks his evaluations trump stars, so highly rated players don’t matter. We both know that you have to have a combination of both factors - highly rated players vetted by excellent evaluations.

Additionally, we don’t know what kind of a P5 coach he’s going to be at the P5 level. Is he a good game day coach at this level? Can he prepare athletes at this level for the weekly grind?

I’ll add one more point, forget Mario ever existed and imagine if we had sling blade Billy, and he had had accomplished for us so far exactly what he’s accomplished so far for the turds? This place would be in open revolt.

VERDICT: HE SUCKS!
 
Its crazy/funny how the fan bases differ on reading a kid on his recruitment. Regarding Baxter, we’re convinced he’s ours. Then u got these turds swearing its between them and a&m, with no mention of us even in the picture. Lol
 
305to954 said:
Napier could’ve had MULTIPLE JOBS at the P5 level for years..we’ll see what he can do..but dude has good reputation in the coaching community..I watched that UF a spring game..he has a QB. I think Napier Will definitely get talent In Gainesville and his offenses wi be good. They put together a good staff up there. I just think even running at their max capacity..Miami at its max is playoffs annually. UF isnt
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Who is his qb? AR15? Admittedly, the kid is athletically gifted but I would hardly pronounce him a bonafied starter.
 
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To me Napier seems like a rich man’s mcelwain good X and O guy good not great recruiter and just a regular guy not a weirdo like Mullen and Mcelwain. He hired a big off field staff which will help but his on field staff isn’t very impressive besides Raymond. He is banking big time that his ULL DC can make that jump to SEC.
 
RVACane said:
If we get Baxter, tears a comin’

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This is the danger of myth-building and telling lies to make your fanbase feel better. They repeat it and repeat it until they accept it as Gospel.

So let's break this down. QueJay was wrong. QueJay was wrong on sooooo many things. And nobody argues that QueJay is an actual insider (a coach, a staffer, a writer) who walks into the Athletic Department every day or so.

No, QueJay is a Chick Fil-A OPERATOR over 100 miles away from Hogtown, and his "connection" to information is that he is fraternity brothers with a a Gaytor coach. What that means is that QueJay's "information" is subject to the SAME "but I heard it from a coach" single-source weakness that just DESTROYED Warchant. Good lord, it's not like we haven't seen Gaytor coaches be COMPLETELY wrong about whether they are about to sign a guy ("Congratulations Tae!"). So why would anyone think that a Gaytor coach's information becomes MORE reliable when he tells a fraternity brother?

Even worse is the selective "I'll believe the parts I want to believe" nonsense from the Gaytor fans. Sure, even though QueJay is demonstrably wrong on his information, they WANT to believe that Citizen signed with Miami solely because of a "starter offer"...and money, I guess. Meanwhile they can't comprehend that Mario simply doesn't make those guarantees. It doesn't make their Gaytor egos feel better to admit that one guy (the guy with the bigger job and the greater recruiting success at Alabama) can outrecruit another guy (the guy with the lesser job and recruiting success at Alabama). Noooooo, it must be "money" (in spite of their massive Perkins brag about the no-show job for the mom and the free Hogtown housing for the family and the separate payment to the father) or a "starter guarantee".

And at the end of the day, we have a five-year thread here full of Gaytor fan screenshots where they advocate doing everything legal and illegal to sign recruits, including lying to them. So if the ONLY thing standing between the Gaytors and Citizen was a (false) promise of a starting role, I'm not sure why the Gaytor fans wouldn't advocate for Gaypier doing that, given that they have two Five-Star busts on their roster who are currently being outplayed by a random transfer from Louisiana. I mean, just from a logical standpoint, who would make a more credible promise of a starting job...the team with Five-Star Lingard, Five-Star Bowman, and Three-Star Louisiana Guy, or the team that returns Rooster, Chaney, Thad, and an SEC transfer?

Anyhow, between the Gaytor fans' myths about losing Citizen and the SemenHole fans' nonsense about Prison Mike Norvell beating Mario "head-to-head" for Three-Star Tatum Bethune, it's just nauseating having to battle the lies and myths that our rivals build up in the absence of informed rebuttal.

That Gaytor thread, though, is a special level of insanity. Look at the ****storm of childishness in that thread:

---"We're going to continue to scream at an FAU alum and accuse him of putting in a crystal ball for the sole purpose of undermining Gaytor recruiting, and tell ourselves that Saban only got involved because of that crystal ball, and Saban's sole source of knowledge on a recruit is a crystal ball from an FAU alum..."

---"Oh, Blake, we are so thirsty, please tell us positive things about how a Gaytor position coach has done in recruiting, he was only hired 4 months ago and we can't seem to console ourselves with the fact that we got a guy with the last name of Etienne. Tell us lies, tell us sweet little lies..."

---"Please dear Jesus, while we are still thirsty, someone lie to us and tell us that our only competition is aTm, and then we will lie to ourselves that we have the capability to price-match an aTm NIL deal, even though we have shown no ability to do so, aTm is spending massive amounts, and we lost Perkins and Citizen (allegedly) because we were too cheap..."

---"Oh my god, we are going to gush like little girls about whether a recruit mentions our RB by name in an interview..."

---"We are happy that an Ohio State verbal has 'taken a liking' to Juluke, and that Juluke got us 'thatclose' to landing a kid who picked Miami, and also Juluke is great when he turns recruiting 180 degrees. Yes, this is how low our standards have fallen, when the three best arguments in favor of Juluke involve woulda, coulda, and shoulda..."

Insanity. Utter Gaytor Logicz insanity.
 
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