Draft analysts raving about Canes at East/West Shrine Game

[904Cane]

With the amount of snaps that Chick played over the years to have those tiny sack numbers is a ****ing embarrassment.

Playing that many snaps he should've lucked into 4 more sacks a season.

+1 regardless of scheme... He should have had more. I like the kid but it's the truth..

 

[904Cane]

Daniel Jeremiah and Mike Mayock of the NFL Network have identified a couple ProCanes as the most impressive players on the field.

From Jeremiah:

Miami DE Anthony Chickillo: Chickillo (6-foot-4, 275 pounds) was a five-star prospect and a consensus national top-25 recruit in the 2011 recruiting class, one that also included Jadeveon Clowney, Ha Ha Clinton-Dix and Sammy Watkins, who were first-round picks in the 2014 draft. (Chickillo is one of two five-stars from the 2011 recruiting class in the Shrine Game; the other is Texas RB Malcom Brown.) Chickillo was a four-year starter at Miami, but never lived up to the recruiting hype. He had five sacks as a freshman in 2011, but that ended up being his career-high, and his total dropped every season (four in 2012, 3.5 in '13 and three this season). Still, he was a valuable player for the Hurricanes known for his high-revving motor and ended up being better against the run than was expected. Chickillo showed off his relentlessness and tenacity in almost every drill this week. "I can see him being a mid-round pick who will be around a long time," Jeremiah said.

How does that happen? What changed with Chick from Year 1 to Year 4? He doesn't have a history of being injured. Wasn't supplanted by some hotshot freshman or another player. Just sack totals, and I am sure tackles and tackle for loss totals just fell off like a washed up rapper.

Hope he kills at the Shrine Game and next level.

When you are not allowed to escape from the olinemen, it is hard to get to the QB.

Yeah right on obvious pass downs WE DONT WANT HIM TO GET IN THE BACKFIELD.. Easy to blame scheme and coaching for lack of production.. 3rd and 11 we rush 4 and you THINK THE SCHEME is set for a player not to get a pass rush. SMH

 

[904Cane]

We made him draftable. You compare his Freshman year to Clowney's He was never a speed rusher. Take a look for yourself


http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...&mid=B97F76AC0A5DF640E619B97F76AC0A5DF640E619

You see any speed , I dont I see a guy bigger than everyone else making a lot of effort plays.. Majority of highlights he is standing up and isnt blocked at all. HS football for really big kids is easy as no one really wants to block them

Nothing against him but he is who he is..

To compare just look at McCord's highlights http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...&mid=7EA7DB54B0FA4F0673237EA7DB54B0FA4F067323

They were similar height and size in HS but one is much more explosive off the edge they both get to college one still rushes and plays rush backer in passing downs and the other moves inside. Kills me how people act like Chick was Olivier Vernon or somebody..

Not really. He took one for the team by bulking up for this godawful system.

He's a 4-3 DE in the NFL. A rotational guy, but one that coaches have no problem putting in the game as he'll go 100mph and do his job. That, along with the measurables he has, will lead to a decent NFL career.

He took one to make himself a hybrid player to make a roster. A 4-3 DE with no pass rush ability ??? Who wants that??? Every SR at every D-1 college thats a starter will go 100 MPH to try and make the league.

You just described A JAG.

 

[KANE]

Daniel Jeremiah and Mike Mayock of the NFL Network have identified a couple ProCanes as the most impressive players on the field.

From Jeremiah:

Miami DE Anthony Chickillo: Chickillo (6-foot-4, 275 pounds) was a five-star prospect and a consensus national top-25 recruit in the 2011 recruiting class, one that also included Jadeveon Clowney, Ha Ha Clinton-Dix and Sammy Watkins, who were first-round picks in the 2014 draft. (Chickillo is one of two five-stars from the 2011 recruiting class in the Shrine Game; the other is Texas RB Malcom Brown.) Chickillo was a four-year starter at Miami, but never lived up to the recruiting hype. He had five sacks as a freshman in 2011, but that ended up being his career-high, and his total dropped every season (four in 2012, 3.5 in '13 and three this season). Still, he was a valuable player for the Hurricanes known for his high-revving motor and ended up being better against the run than was expected. Chickillo showed off his relentlessness and tenacity in almost every drill this week. "I can see him being a mid-round pick who will be around a long time," Jeremiah said.

How does that happen? What changed with Chick from Year 1 to Year 4? He doesn't have a history of being injured. Wasn't supplanted by some hotshot freshman or another player. Just sack totals, and I am sure tackles and tackle for loss totals just fell off like a washed up rapper.

Hope he kills at the Shrine Game and next level.

What happened? well, we went from a more traditionally aligned base 4-3 (1 gap), to the crap 3-4 (2 gap) **** we see now!!! We changed our DL stances from a more attacking stance, to this frog taking a dump stance!!! GOD, I cant stand this efense! Someone please help!

 

[KANE]

With the amount of snaps that Chick played over the years to have those tiny sack numbers is a ****ing embarrassment.

Playing that many snaps he should've lucked into 4 more sacks a season.

+1 regardless of scheme... He should have had more. I like the kid but it's the truth..

^^^This +1000, but the skeme of this efense was partially to blame, as well.

 

[datcaneguy]

I'm

With the amount of snaps that Chick played over the years to have those tiny sack numbers is a ****ing embarrassment.

Playing that many snaps he should've lucked into 4 more sacks a season.

+1 regardless of scheme... He should have had more. I like the kid but it's the truth..

So should McCord, Owens, AQM, Harris, and so on...it's the scheme period...predictable blitzes, rushing 3 out of a frog stance in a 5 technique, no pass rush moves outside of bull rush, end and tackle games don't work because guys just rush right into the olineman.

 

[3FW]

The failure is 80% system and risk aversion, 20% recruiting. These guys do a good job of developing players.

Being naive is nothing you have to try to do. One does not be applauded for development skills for taking a 5***** kid to this:

"I can see him being a mid-round pick who will be around a long time," Jeremiah said.

As for Feliciano, don't see where you gather any applaudable coaching development skills from this. Sounds more like a testament to the kids own intestinal fortitude:

doesn't wow you with his athleticism or strength, but he is a hard-working guy who is tenacious and versatile.

Exactly. I always get a kick out of the guys on here looking to credit Folden for developing guys like Perryman and Chick into lower picks than they would have been had they been in a better system with better coaching.

Making my point. Failure is failure, but it's not due to development. The system when combined with Golden's ultra conservative nature is by far the biggest culprit. I'm not giving anyone credit, I'm just stating what I see.

 

[CANE1775]

Watching game now. Mayock on Chickillo "had one of the best weeks of anybody here......talking about a 271 pound guy with much better burst and get off than anybody thought. " The other guy chimed in saying "he probably had the best get off of any defensive end we saw, he and ZaDarius Smith."

 

[dfreshhookup]

BruceFeldmanCFB: NFL Net analysts really praising Anthony Chickillo. Thinking he may be the next #Cane in a long line that looks better in NFL than at UM.

Yep.

 

[OldhamA]

Yep, Chickillo consistently beating his man tonight.

 

[CaneGang440]

god ****

 

[Supercane85]

With the amount of snaps that Chick played over the years to have those tiny sack numbers is a ****ing embarrassment.

Playing that many snaps he should've lucked into 4 more sacks a season.

+1 regardless of scheme... He should have had more. I like the kid but it's the truth..

Not true

I think Canes fans don't understand how many elite pass rushing linemen we had on the roster.

AQM (4 star)
Harris (4 star)
MCcord (4 star)
Hamilton (4 star)
Grimble (5 star)
C Thomas (5 star)
Chick (5 star)

All of these players have not produced sacks on the college level despite being elite rushers in highschool. When you have this many highly rated players who specialized in creating pressure suddenly are none factors, effort is not the issue. You have to start looking at the scheme.

Recruiting is never 100% but the chance of having this many highly rated players fail to produce is very unlikely. It is 1000% the scheme

 

[OldhamA]

Just got a drive ending sack.

 

[brandonwilkes93]

Yea he just had a sack???

. Smh

 

[The Franchise]

Watching game now. Mayock on Chickillo "had one of the best weeks of anybody here......talking about a 271 pound guy with much better burst and get off than anybody thought. " The other guy chimed in saying "he probably had the best get off of any defensive end we saw, he and ZaDarius Smith."

Nah. No way. He's white, so he can't have any burst off the edge. He's merely a heady try hard guy.

Mayock doesn't know anything. He doesn't get paid to spend every day of his life evaluating college players.

Bottom line: Chick didn't have many sacks playing under the great Al Golden, so he's incapable of rushing the passer. I'm going to ask you to forget what Folden's done with other born killers off the edge like AQM, McCord, Vernon, and Chad and just trust that it's all on Chick for not rushing the passer when he was told not to rush the passer.

 

[poncho0091]

If Chick ends up doing well in the league, I wonder how many people here will admit they called him a jag and said he was nothing. I'm not saying he will or he won't, but it's hard to tell when you play under garbage coaching.

 

[brock]

Watching game now. Mayock on Chickillo "had one of the best weeks of anybody here......talking about a 271 pound guy with much better burst and get off than anybody thought. " The other guy chimed in saying "he probably had the best get off of any defensive end we saw, he and ZaDarius Smith."

Nah. No way. He's white, so he can't have any burst off the edge. He's merely a heady try hard guy.

Mayock doesn't know anything. He doesn't get paid to spend every day of his life evaluating college players.

Bottom line: Chick didn't have many sacks playing under the great Al Golden, so he's incapable of rushing the passer. I'm going to ask you to forget what Folden's done with other born killers off the edge like AQM, McCord, Vernon, and Chad and just trust that it's all on Chick for not rushing the passer when he was told not to rush the passer.

Chick produced at miami with 15 and a half sacks but I am sure he could have had more if we ran an aggressive 4-3 defensive scheme....

 

[The Franchise]

Someone's gonna get another TJ UMaxx bargain in the mid rounds who goes on to have a ten year career in the NFL.

And when he's not here next year playing every fcking down like the warrior he is and doing what he was told to do by lame brain Folden watch how much we miss him. LULZ at him being a JAG.

 

[emrok]

Daniel Jeremiah and Mike Mayock of the NFL Network have identified a couple ProCanes as the most impressive players on the field.

From Jeremiah:

Miami DE Anthony Chickillo: Chickillo (6-foot-4, 275 pounds) was a five-star prospect and a consensus national top-25 recruit in the 2011 recruiting class, one that also included Jadeveon Clowney, Ha Ha Clinton-Dix and Sammy Watkins, who were first-round picks in the 2014 draft. (Chickillo is one of two five-stars from the 2011 recruiting class in the Shrine Game; the other is Texas RB Malcom Brown.) Chickillo was a four-year starter at Miami, but never lived up to the recruiting hype. He had five sacks as a freshman in 2011, but that ended up being his career-high, and his total dropped every season (four in 2012, 3.5 in '13 and three this season). Still, he was a valuable player for the Hurricanes known for his high-revving motor and ended up being better against the run than was expected. Chickillo showed off his relentlessness and tenacity in almost every drill this week. "I can see him being a mid-round pick who will be around a long time," Jeremiah said.

How does that happen? What changed with Chick from Year 1 to Year 4? He doesn't have a history of being injured. Wasn't supplanted by some hotshot freshman or another player. Just sack totals, and I am sure tackles and tackle for loss totals just fell off like a washed up rapper.

Hope he kills at the Shrine Game and next level.

When you are not allowed to escape from the olinemen, it is hard to get to the QB.

Yeah right on obvious pass downs WE DONT WANT HIM TO GET IN THE BACKFIELD.. Easy to blame scheme and coaching for lack of production.. 3rd and 11 we rush 4 and you THINK THE SCHEME is set for a player not to get a pass rush. SMH

They line him up as an interior lineman in those situations. He ends up getting double teamed by the guard and center. Since he is only like 280lbs, he doesn't have the size to bullrush. He's also inside rushing, which means he is closer to the OL at contact. On the outside you have time to gain momentum. Usually when he is outside and someone like 230lb McCord is lined up as a 3, they are stunting. This is the most obvious **** ever. Especially when its all they do on film. It is retarded. Stunting works by getting the OL to block the wrong guys. When the guard looks up and sees a twig he knows somethings up. Even still, the defense looks better than it does in the base 3-4.

The coaches wanting him to do something and the coaches setting him up to do something are different. Everyone knows the coaches want him to get a sack, but they don't set him up for it.

 

[252cane]

Chick looks real good in this 4-3. He looks like he has lost weight much leaner now he doesn't have to play in the **** stance.

Has very get burst off the line and looks very athletic.

They just showed him and he is lean as **** dude lost a good amount of weight. Mayock just said chick has been unblockable.

**** i feel bad for chad and aqm.