Yes but Allen wasn't a polished passer and Dorsey is who coached him to be the player he is today
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Dorsey is a GREAT QB COACH. Newton looked infinitely better, too.
As an OC he looks good after 1 game.
Helps to be in the situation he's in, offensive minded HC, great QB (he facilitated that) and they aren't cheaping on getting weapons for QB/OC.
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He basically gameplanned/schemed Donald out of the game. He made a couple of plays but nowhere near as disruptive as he normally is and that was in part due to the playcalling.
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As a developed prospect he is a stud. What he was drafted as WAS A PROJECT... Its Kenny who got him to this point. That's not descrediting the players role in the equation. But there's really no need for you or anyone else to double down on a need to **** on Kenny so you can convince yourself you've proven a horrible point.
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This isn't the hill to be on . . . it sounds like you're rooting against one of the most beloved Canes of all time.
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Trash take.
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Guy couldn’t hit ocean if he was standing on a boat
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LOL at Josh Allen being the best player in the NFL no matter who his coaches are. He was labeled a borderline bust before Dorsey got his hands on him.
Daboll is a good OC but I’m very interested to see how Dorsey calls this year. They might not have the gaudy passing #’s, but they likely will be more efficient. Dorsey will be balanced and imo his situational play calling will be better than Daboll’s. With that said, the Bills and JA need to start thinking long term about running QB powers and their star QB taking all that heavy contact or his career won’t be as long as people are expecting.
Those factors combined with the talent Buffalo has on D and it’s tough to argue against them being the Super Bowl favorite even in a loaded AFC.
Daboll is a good OC but I’m very interested to see how Dorsey calls this year. They might not have the gaudy passing #’s, but they likely will be more efficient. Dorsey will be balanced and imo his situational play calling will be better than Daboll’s. With that said, the Bills and JA need to start thinking long term about running QB powers and their star QB taking all that heavy contact or his career won’t be as long as people are expecting.
Those factors combined with the talent Buffalo has on D and it’s tough to argue against them being the Super Bowl favorite even in a loaded AFC.
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Based on what?
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If I had to throw my 2 cents in I'd say based upon the fact he's always audibled out of the calls made by oc & adjusted to what defenses have been doing on the fly.
I thought Sean McDermott was a defensively minded coach?
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He is but it doesn't fit into the narrative.
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People still doubting Kenny? What he did for Cam and Josh speaks for itself. Rising star in the NFL future HC. I hope I get to enjoy him run our offense at least for a couple years before that happens
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1. McDermott has a defensive background.
2. The situation Dorsey's in has a good deal to do with Dorsey himself.
3. Talent doesn't necessarily equal automatic awesome offense and defense (see the Fischer-era Rams and the immediate dividends after he's canned).
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It would be pretty cool/interesting if they had an NFL Top 25-30 (like the NFL Top 100 Players show), but of coaches ranking other coaches and coordinators. To get an inside view of game planning and strategy to really show what these guys bring to the table.
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1. My bad, mixed him up with Daboll in my dome
2. Agree. He's made Allen what he is. Smart young coach, made Cam an MVP.
3. You can't win without the best people- most talented that fit your Core Values. And Fischer didn't have Stafford // is a .500 coach. Was well past his very limited prime.
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My line is you are judged by your results and Kenny is delivering thus far and delivering heavy. I had questions about his experience but here we are and he is potentially on the verge of developing a HOF talent. Allen is just a monster.
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I don't think that Allen's improvement should be overlooked nor do I believe Dorsey's involvement in that improvement should be underestimated. I have to look at what was said about Cam Newton here as well and factor in Dorsey's direct involvement there as well. There's a reason he stuck around so long as an NFL player with what some might call "below average attributes" for a QB; it was his intellect, processing ability, and his ability to prepare that set him apart.
I'm not sure that he will be an HC in the NFL, but I do believe that he will continue to be a successful OC wherever he is and I think that will eventually lead him to have multiple opportunities to run a team at some level of football.
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