Corn Elder laughs at "South Florida" talent

[Joecane]

You're trying to explain the internet to a German Shepherd. Forget it and go watch the Monday night game.

ENJOY THE RED

 

[SigEp77]

Why is Howard 3rd string did he get worse or everyone else get better?

Because GoRdlen is a ******* idiot. Herb has shown out every opportunity he's had. Probably the best receiver on the team right now.

 

[TreOFive]

Nothing but love for Corn.

Having Golden and Dorito coaching our team is like bringing a knife to a gunfight.

This I think makes better sense

 

[weownfsu]

Again, nobody is saying that Miami has to solely recruit Dade players. If they do, they're an idiot.

What point are you trying to make? It used to be that south florida players were too dumb to succeed but now I'm not sure what you're going for.

That's actually a part of it. I think the coaching is horrible, for the most part, in Miami-Dade. You take a guy like Amari Cooper, put him in an environment full of well coached kids hand-picked by an elite coach, and he's going to be a star. Take 40 of those kids, put them with even an above-average coach, and they just can't handle this level of football. You can teach one or two kids to succeed at an elite level. It's hard to teach the basics to 40 or 60 of them.

Again, this has squat to do with Golden.

Yeah. They just can't handle this level of football but the NFL is dying to draft them anyway. 57 in the last 3 years--but they can't "handle" college football. And I'm sure all the coaching at some of the schools that Alabama gets kids from is just elite. All of those kids received top-tier coaching in high school, LOL. And I'm sure Amari Cooper needed special coaching and to be taught fundamentals. After all, look how long it took him to get on the field!

Are you retarded or do you just pretend to be for kicks?

 

[weownfsu]

So you don't care about real recruiting, you just want Florida to have more.

I don't even know what you and the other cat are even arguing at this point you've moved the ball so many times. I know you have failed horribly at basic math and statistical concepts such as correlations and ratios.

Who is arguing that we shouldn't be recruiting talent from other states?

My point is simple. There's a misconception out there that somehow South Florida produces far and away the best football players in the country, and that we should be beating the brains out of every other team because we're located right in the heart of it.

I'm saying that might have been true in the 80's, but times have changed. There is no more talent in South Florida today than anywhere else in the South.

I'm saying that what's changed isn't the athleticism of the kids, it's the fight and work ethic in those kids. Back in the 80's, you had riots in the streets, crime through the roof, and the kids coming up in that era were tough as nails. Today, they're pampered and coddled from the time they're optimist. That's the difference between then and now.

Prove it. Last time I checked, I saw there were 21 nfl players from dade, 16 from Broward, and 12 from PBC. **** St. Thomas Aquinas just put 4-6 kids in the draft LAST YEAR alone. Every sec head coach knows south Florida has the best talent.

For the people who are bringing up examples of Oregon and Oklahoma, why would they consistently go to south Florida when they have regional talent as well. No one is California and Texas areas have no talent. They are saying south Florida has the most talent. Which is a fact.

NFL players by state, per capita:

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You can see that the south in general, not Florida per se, is where the talent comes from. The stats that only look at metro areas skew toward Miami because we have the biggest metro area in the South.

Here, folks, is somebody who doesn't understand what a rate is and why it doesn't matter at all that Miami is the biggest metro area in the South.

 

[01rodric]

Not to mention, the point you're trying to make changes with every post you make.

Lies.

Not at all, that is absolute truth. I read every god**** post made here and you have moved the target every ******* time you have been discredited and proven wrong with facts, stats, links and everything else. You and your minions have come back with anecdotes and tales of what once was with zero facts.

Joecane ethered your *** when he posted that spreadsheet. Just give up.

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[weownfsu]

Not to mention, the point you're trying to make changes with every post you make.

Lies.

Not at all, that is absolute truth. I read every god**** post made here and you have moved the target every ****ing time you have been discredited and proven wrong with facts, stats, links and everything else. You and your minions have come back with anecdotes and tales of what once was with zero facts.

Joecane ethered your *** when he posted that spreadsheet. Just give up.

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No surprise that this guy can't just say "You know what, the cold hard facts don't back up whatI said."

First it was that South Florida kids are too dumb to succeed. Then it was that South Florida talent compared to the entire south isn't special. Then it was South Florida talent compared to the entire country isn't special. Now they have no clue what point they're trying to make.

 

[plantcity3]

Again, nobody is saying that Miami has to solely recruit Dade players. If they do, they're an idiot.

What point are you trying to make? It used to be that south florida players were too dumb to succeed but now I'm not sure what you're going for.

That's actually a part of it. I think the coaching is horrible, for the most part, in Miami-Dade. You take a guy like Amari Cooper, put him in an environment full of well coached kids hand-picked by an elite coach, and he's going to be a star. Take 40 of those kids, put them with even an above-average coach, and they just can't handle this level of football. You can teach one or two kids to succeed at an elite level. It's hard to teach the basics to 40 or 60 of them.

Can you explain some more. Im curious as to why you think its like that?

 

[CaneAlmighty]

This is sad. Miami Norland has the most players in the NFL from anyone HS in 2013 along with Aquinas

Miami Norland, Miami, Fla.
Antwan Barnes, NYJ; Dwayne Bowe, KC; Antonio Brown, PIT; Lester Jean, HOU; Xavier Rhodes, MIN; Tourek Williams, SD

Not one ended up playing for former Norland Alum Randy Shannon.

 

[UMAlum21]

Boy the coaching in Alabama and Louisi-*******-ana just blow South Florida's away. The IQ's of the guys rolling into Bama, LSU, and Auburn just blows our kids' away. No wonder these kids can response to Nick Sabans coaching and not Golden, despite his masterful teaching abilities.

 

[weownfsu]

Boy the coaching in Alabama and Louisi-****ing-ana just blow South Florida's away. The IQ's of the guys rolling into Bama, LSU, and Auburn just blows our kids' away. No wonder these kids can response to Nick Sabans coaching and not Golden, despite his masterful teaching abilities.

Yep. Just look at how long it took guys like Amari Cooper and Patrick Johnson to get on the field at Alabama and LSU. They had to be taught fundamentals while all the other football scientists on the squad got it right away.

How did FSU survive last year with Benjamin, Freeman, O'Leary, Rashad Greene, and Lamarcus Joyner all being huge contributors? Did those players just not reach the south florida ****** quota that AntwanJ just made up?

 

[Cane In The Membrane]

This is an advantage.

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/hssports/2014/05/south-florida-leaves-a-mark-in-nfl-draft-again.html

http://elitedaily.com/sports/10-high-schools-produce-nfl-players-america/608500/

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap20...roduces-most-nfl-draftees-in-past-three-years

Duke Johnson, Denzel perryman, rakeem Cato, amari cooper, Denver Kirkland, Alex Collins, Fabian Moreau, Traveon Henry, John miller, Joey bosa, Avery young, Isaiah mckenzie, Marshall Morgan, Mcgarrett Kings, Skai Moore, etc etc. Advantage

All those guys have already proven or shown major flashes in college what they can do against the toughest competition in the country.
Some of these guys we barely looked at or decided to pass on

You're speculating about a lot of kids who are still in college who MIGHT end up being good, might not. The measure of a player's talent is their draft position. I already showed you that while South Florida has a pretty good representation in the NFL, it's not any more than elsewhere in the South. The ONLY difference is that in South Florida, most of the best kids play for the same few high schools, so the talent is more concentrated.

Nick Saban can put on his straw hat and travel around the rural areas of Georgia and Alabama and find kids just as talented as we have in South Florida. that's what the numbers show. Doesn't matter if we have more within a 1 1/2 hour radius. Recruiters aren't limited to a tank of gas.

We don't have more of an advantage than anybody else, man.

 

[Cane In The Membrane]

And you want to know why south florida high schools do so well? Because they recruit. Most of the best kids in south florida play for a handful of schools, everywhere else in the south it's more dispersed. But you don't think Nick Saban can find the best kids in his region?

Where's the value add for Miami to have all our kids concentrated in a couple high schools?

 

[User-4525]

I'm done arguing since you continue to ignore the facts but I really want you to respond to my comments listed below

Do you know where Florida state is on the map? I don't think any one can say within a 1 hour 30 minute radius Florida state has as much talent surrounding them as UM does. UM has 50+ nfl players that grew up within a 1 hour and 30 minute radius of them. How many does FSU have? Tell me again how that's not an advantage? Do you honestly believe what you just typed? **** you can ask the Tallahassee coaches on this forum and they'll tell you tally is not even in the same stratosphere as south Florida.

 

[UMAlum21]

This is an advantage.

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/hssports/2014/05/south-florida-leaves-a-mark-in-nfl-draft-again.html

http://elitedaily.com/sports/10-high-schools-produce-nfl-players-america/608500/

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap20...roduces-most-nfl-draftees-in-past-three-years

Duke Johnson, Denzel perryman, rakeem Cato, amari cooper, Denver Kirkland, Alex Collins, Fabian Moreau, Traveon Henry, John miller, Joey bosa, Avery young, Isaiah mckenzie, Marshall Morgan, Mcgarrett Kings, Skai Moore, etc etc. Advantage

All those guys have already proven or shown major flashes in college what they can do against the toughest competition in the country.
Some of these guys we barely looked at or decided to pass on

You're speculating about a lot of kids who are still in college who MIGHT end up being good, might not. The measure of a player's talent is their draft position. I already showed you that while South Florida has a pretty good representation in the NFL, it's not any more than elsewhere in the South. The ONLY difference is that in South Florida, most of the best kids play for the same few high schools, so the talent is more concentrated.

Nick Saban can put on his straw hat and travel around the rural areas of Georgia and Alabama and find kids just as talented as we have in South Florida. that's what the numbers show. Doesn't matter if we have more within a 1 1/2 hour radius. Recruiters aren't limited to a tank of gas.

We don't have more of an advantage than anybody else, man.

Only in South Florida do kids flock to the top programs. Not in jersey at Bosco. Not in Bama at Hoover. Not in Louisiana at Monroe. Not in Cali at De La Salle. They just happen to always have stud kids by virtue of sheer luck. Only in Florida do the kids gang up and go to the same schools.

 

[UMAlum21]

And you want to know why south florida high schools do so well? Because they recruit. Most of the best kids in south florida play for a handful of schools, everywhere else in the south it's more dispersed. But you don't think Nick Saban can find the best kids in his region?

Where's the value add for Miami to have all our kids concentrated in a couple high schools?

You have the IQ of a ******* ferret if you think only high schools in South Florida recruit for sports.

 

[GhostofVenice01]

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AntwaRn got owned

 

[CaneFanJosh]

People have been band on CIS for all kinds of dumb reasons yet somehow these two mongoloids get to keep porsting and porsting and porsting.

It must just be a crazy coincidence that bomb and titancane are protected here just like they were at grassy.

 

[weownfsu]

This is an advantage.

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/hssports/2014/05/south-florida-leaves-a-mark-in-nfl-draft-again.html

http://elitedaily.com/sports/10-high-schools-produce-nfl-players-america/608500/

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap20...roduces-most-nfl-draftees-in-past-three-years

Duke Johnson, Denzel perryman, rakeem Cato, amari cooper, Denver Kirkland, Alex Collins, Fabian Moreau, Traveon Henry, John miller, Joey bosa, Avery young, Isaiah mckenzie, Marshall Morgan, Mcgarrett Kings, Skai Moore, etc etc. Advantage

All those guys have already proven or shown major flashes in college what they can do against the toughest competition in the country.
Some of these guys we barely looked at or decided to pass on

You're speculating about a lot of kids who are still in college who MIGHT end up being good, might not. The measure of a player's talent is their draft position. I already showed you that while South Florida has a pretty good representation in the NFL, it's not any more than elsewhere in the South. The ONLY difference is that in South Florida, most of the best kids play for the same few high schools, so the talent is more concentrated.

Nick Saban can put on his straw hat and travel around the rural areas of Georgia and Alabama and find kids just as talented as we have in South Florida. that's what the numbers show. Doesn't matter if we have more within a 1 1/2 hour radius. Recruiters aren't limited to a tank of gas.

We don't have more of an advantage than anybody else, man.

Only in South Florida do kids flock to the top programs. Not in jersey at Bosco. Not in Bama at Hoover. Not in Louisiana at Monroe. Not in Cali at De La Salle. They just happen to always have stud kids by virtue of sheer luck. Only in Florida do the kids gang up and go to the same schools.

What the **** does that even matter, anyway? Does the NCAA forbid kids from being extra good if they all played at just a few high schools? These guys are a ******* mess in the head. They don't even know what point they're trying to make anymore.

This Cane Membrane guy still doesn't understand what a rate is either lolol.

 

[Cane In The Membrane]

I'm done arguing since you continue to ignore the facts but I really want you to respond to my comments listed below

Do you know where Florida state is on the map? I don't think any one can say within a 1 hour 30 minute radius Florida state has as much talent surrounding them as UM does. UM has 50+ nfl players that grew up within a 1 hour and 30 minute radius of them. How many does FSU have? Tell me again how that's not an advantage? Do you honestly believe what you just typed? **** you can ask the Tallahassee coaches on this forum and they'll tell you tally is not even in the same stratosphere as south Florida.

I already answered you dude, you're just not hearing it. Georgia, Alabama, Louisiana, Mississippi.... those areas are more spread out and rural than Miami. That's not a disadvantage to those coaches recruiting up there. It's not like every farm town in the south has a major university a block away.

If you're from the rural south, the SEC schools are pretty much your closest option. Doesn't matter if they're 1 1/2 or 2 1/2 hours away. Nothing is close to anything out there. And like I said, Alabama etc recruit from just as good a talent pool as Miami.

I'm not saying we're at a disadvantage or that we suck or anything like that. I'm saying that to sit here and say South Florida is unmatched and we're the greatest and rah rah rah is not really true either.