Corn Elder laughs at "South Florida" talent

[Cane In The Membrane]

Look here's another thing. Go back and look at some of our games from the 80's. The first guy to the ball nearly always made the tackle. That's the sign of a great football team. that's the sign of effort and fight and passion and all that.

How many times have you seen that in the last 10 years? Seems like it's always at least the third guy to the ball making the tackle for us nowadays. The first two will whiff nearly every time. That's the sign of softness.

Even our best players miss a lot of tackles.

 

[Cans4life]

is South Florida the most fertile recruiting grounds in the country or not?

To address your point, there is no such thing as "fertile recruiting grounds" when there are no geographic limitations to recruiting. You want the BEST quarterback in America? He's not from South Florida. The BEST linebacker in America? Not from South Florida. And we could go through every position and make the same claim.

Florida State is riding on the shoulders of a kid from Alabama. Oklahoma barely leaves OK and TX. Oregon flies past us with west and northwest kids. You guys can stay stuck on Miami-Dade kids who play streetball, but the elite programs are saying "no thanks, we're good".

You don't read very well do you?

 

[HurricaneU]

Math is not their friend. They've gone full potato.

http://nationalhsfootball.com/2014/...gn-with-fbs-programs-on-national-signing-day/

So you don't care about real recruiting, you just want Florida to have more.

I don't even know what you and the other cat are even arguing at this point you've moved the ball so many times. I know you have failed horribly at basic math and statistical concepts such as correlations and ratios.

Who is arguing that we shouldn't be recruiting talent from other states?

 

[Joecane]

Math is not their friend. They've gone full potato.

http://nationalhsfootball.com/2014/...gn-with-fbs-programs-on-national-signing-day/

So you don't care about real recruiting, you just want Florida to have more.

Division 1 isn't "real recruiting"?

 

[CaneQueTiger]

I will say is....if they can put about 10 pounds on Corn by next year, he will be something serious. I am from Tennessee, and as much as I wanted him to play slot, the coaching staff did the right thing by moving him to corner.

 

[AntwanJ306]

Nice straw man

I'm curious.....what is YOUR point, if that is a "straw man"?

 

[AntwanJ306]

Math is not their friend. They've gone full potato.

http://nationalhsfootball.com/2014/...gn-with-fbs-programs-on-national-signing-day/

So you don't care about real recruiting, you just want Florida to have more.

Division 1 isn't "real recruiting"?

Yes, and there are FAR MORE Division 1 players in the area that SEC coaches recruit from than there are in Miami. Not even close.

 

[Joecane]

State	Signees	Players	Ratio
Florida	351	34,848	99
Georgia	188	33,207	176
Louisiana	92	20,193	220
Hawaii	15	3,761	251
Alabama	85	22,875	269
Maryland/D.C.	53	15,333	289
Ohio	153	45,882	300
Utah	25	8,784	351
Virginia	66	25,965	393
Mississippi	55	22,456	408
California	251	102,505	408
Texas	379	165,349	436
Pennsylvania	60	26,280	438
South Carolina	43	19,069	443
Arkansas	19	8,734	460
New Jersey	56	25,888	462
Oklahoma	30	14,949	498
Arizona	37	18,803	508
North Carolina	70	35,608	509
Nevada	12	6,701	558
Michigan	73	41,138	564
Colorado	27	15,899	589
Indiana	36	21,726	604
Illinois	76	46,889	617
Missouri	37	23,066	623
Tennessee	36	22,504	625
Kentucky	21	13,261	631
Kansas	19	13,950	734
Delaware	4	3,011	753
Connecticut	13	10,263	789
Idaho	8	7,166	896
New Mexico	6	6,520	1,087
Wisconsin	25	27,840	1,114
Washington	17	21,278	1,252
Wyoming	2	2,712	1,356
Massachusetts	14	19,651	1,403
Alaska	1	1,856	1,856
Iowa	11	18,852	1,714
New York	19	35,552	1,871
Oregon	7	13,180	1,883
Nebraska	5	10,165	2,033
West Virginia	2	5,978	2,989
Minnesota	8	24,574	3,072
New Hampshire	1	3,548	3,548
Montana	1	4,324	4,324
Vermont	0	1,159	0
Rhode Island	0	2,928	0
North Dakota	0	3,221	0
South Dakota	0	3,468	0
Maine	0	3,744	0

[TD="colspan: 4"]A state-by-state breakdown of Division I FBS signees per participant. Data collected from participation stats distributed by the National Federation of High School Sports and signees as reported by Division I FBS schools and the Rivals.com database.[/TD]

 

[Joecane]

^^^^

YOU CAN LOCK THIS STUPID *** THREAD NOW

 

[AntwanJ306]

I don't even know what you and the other cat are even arguing at this point you've moved the ball so many times. I know you have failed horribly at basic math and statistical concepts such as correlations and ratios.

Who is arguing that we shouldn't be recruiting talent from other states?

So your entire point is that you want to beat your chest over the fact that there are more recruits in Miami than Charlotte? That's it?

 

[AntwanJ306]

^^^^

YOU CAN LOCK THIS STUPID *** THREAD NOW

Uh, what did you prove?

 

[Cane In The Membrane]

Math is not their friend. They've gone full potato.

http://nationalhsfootball.com/2014/...gn-with-fbs-programs-on-national-signing-day/

So you don't care about real recruiting, you just want Florida to have more.

I don't even know what you and the other cat are even arguing at this point you've moved the ball so many times. I know you have failed horribly at basic math and statistical concepts such as correlations and ratios.

Who is arguing that we shouldn't be recruiting talent from other states?

My point is simple. There's a misconception out there that somehow South Florida produces far and away the best football players in the country, and that we should be beating the brains out of every other team because we're located right in the heart of it.

I'm saying that might have been true in the 80's, but times have changed. There is no more talent in South Florida today than anywhere else in the South.

I'm saying that what's changed isn't the athleticism of the kids, it's the fight and work ethic in those kids. Back in the 80's, you had riots in the streets, crime through the roof, and the kids coming up in that era were tough as nails. Today, they're pampered and coddled from the time they're optimist. That's the difference between then and now.

 

[Cans4life]

Math is not their friend. They've gone full potato.

http://nationalhsfootball.com/2014/...gn-with-fbs-programs-on-national-signing-day/

So you don't care about real recruiting, you just want Florida to have more.

I don't even know what you and the other cat are even arguing at this point you've moved the ball so many times. I know you have failed horribly at basic math and statistical concepts such as correlations and ratios.

Who is arguing that we shouldn't be recruiting talent from other states?

My point is simple. There's a misconception out there that somehow South Florida produces far and away the best football players in the country, and that we should be beating the brains out of every other team because we're located right in the heart of it.

I'm saying that might have been true in the 80's, but times have changed. There is no more talent in South Florida today than anywhere else in the South.

I'm saying that what's changed isn't the athleticism of the kids, it's the fight and work ethic in those kids. Back in the 80's, you had riots in the streets, crime through the roof, and the kids coming up in that era were tough as nails. Today, they're pampered and coddled from the time they're optimist. That's the difference between then and now.

Did you not look at Joe's post above????

He clearly disproved your point by showing that per capita Florida has the most Division 1 signees.

 

[HurricaneU]

I don't even know what you and the other cat are even arguing at this point you've moved the ball so many times. I know you have failed horribly at basic math and statistical concepts such as correlations and ratios.

Who is arguing that we shouldn't be recruiting talent from other states?

So your entire point is that you want to beat your chest over the fact that there are more recruits in Miami than Charlotte? That's it?

Not trying to beat my chest on anything. I will happily take a recruit from anywhere. If they can play they can play. But to suggest Florida/ South Florida isn't loaded with a greater density of talent than other states/areas is mathematically incorrect.

Joecane reformatted and posted the link I put up earlier demonstrating what I just stated.

Correlations based on raw population numbers are qualitatively different from density ratios.

 

[User-4525]

Math is not their friend. They've gone full potato.

http://nationalhsfootball.com/2014/...gn-with-fbs-programs-on-national-signing-day/

So you don't care about real recruiting, you just want Florida to have more.

I don't even know what you and the other cat are even arguing at this point you've moved the ball so many times. I know you have failed horribly at basic math and statistical concepts such as correlations and ratios.

Who is arguing that we shouldn't be recruiting talent from other states?

My point is simple. There's a misconception out there that somehow South Florida produces far and away the best football players in the country, and that we should be beating the brains out of every other team because we're located right in the heart of it.

I'm saying that might have been true in the 80's, but times have changed. There is no more talent in South Florida today than anywhere else in the South.

I'm saying that what's changed isn't the athleticism of the kids, it's the fight and work ethic in those kids. Back in the 80's, you had riots in the streets, crime through the roof, and the kids coming up in that era were tough as nails. Today, they're pampered and coddled from the time they're optimist. That's the difference between then and now.

Prove it. Last time I checked, I saw there were 21 nfl players from dade, 16 from Broward, and 12 from PBC. **** St. Thomas Aquinas just put 4-6 kids in the draft LAST YEAR alone. Every sec head coach knows south Florida has the best talent.

For the people who are bringing up examples of Oregon and Oklahoma, why would they consistently go to south Florida when they have regional talent as well. No one is California and Texas areas have no talent. They are saying south Florida has the most talent. Which is a fact.

 

[AntwanJ306]

But to suggest Florida/ South Florida isn't loaded with a greater density of talent than other states/areas is mathematically incorrect.

Um, no one has argued against that. Not even once. What we're saying is that it has nothing to do with actual recruiting. I want the best players on our team. We have a greater density of talent in our region? Cool. The top programs are taking their kids from ten different regions. That is the point.

 

[AntwanJ306]

For the people who are bringing up examples of Oregon and Oklahoma, why would they consistently go to south Florida when they have regional talent as well.

I brought those schools up, and you made my point for me. There is PLENTY of talent that doesn't live in South Florida. Saying we have "more" doesn't help us at all, because no one else is just recruiting from one area.

 

[Cane In The Membrane]

Math is not their friend. They've gone full potato.

http://nationalhsfootball.com/2014/...gn-with-fbs-programs-on-national-signing-day/

So you don't care about real recruiting, you just want Florida to have more.

I don't even know what you and the other cat are even arguing at this point you've moved the ball so many times. I know you have failed horribly at basic math and statistical concepts such as correlations and ratios.

Who is arguing that we shouldn't be recruiting talent from other states?

My point is simple. There's a misconception out there that somehow South Florida produces far and away the best football players in the country, and that we should be beating the brains out of every other team because we're located right in the heart of it.

I'm saying that might have been true in the 80's, but times have changed. There is no more talent in South Florida today than anywhere else in the South.

I'm saying that what's changed isn't the athleticism of the kids, it's the fight and work ethic in those kids. Back in the 80's, you had riots in the streets, crime through the roof, and the kids coming up in that era were tough as nails. Today, they're pampered and coddled from the time they're optimist. That's the difference between then and now.

Did you not look at Joe's post above????

He clearly disproved your point by showing that per capita Florida has the most Division 1 signees.

Dude, that shows nothing close to what you think it shows. It's not per capita, it's per registered football player. When I look at that table, I wonder why only 34,000 kids in Florida are signed up to play football. That's barely more than Georgia, a state much smaller population than Florida.... and it's much smaller than, say, Texas.

 

[User-4525]

For the people who are bringing up examples of Oregon and Oklahoma, why would they consistently go to south Florida when they have regional talent as well.

I brought those schools up, and you made my point for me. There is PLENTY of talent that doesn't live in South Florida. Saying we have "more" doesn't help us at all, because no one else is just recruiting from one area.

C'mon man you have to be trolling. What's easier trying to convince Joseph Yearby and Anthony Moten to come to Miami or trying to get Royce Freeman and Adoree to come across the country?

Who said we are should only recruit south Florida? No one. Are we only recruiting south Florida? No. People just believe (crazy notion but here it comes) that south Florida should be the center of our success. I mean it's only the most talented area in the country, so why should we not lock it down?

Not to mention, the point you're trying to make changes with every post you make.

 

[AntwanJ306]

Not to mention, the point you're trying to make changes with every post you make.

Lies.