Corn Elder laughs at "South Florida" talent

[BALLHAWKU]

Is this the new thing among Golden supporters? South Florida players suck? lmao

These people will go to no lengths to defend this guy. **** on actual UM players, **** on future UM players . . . whatever it takes to absolve Golden.

Nobody is saying south florida players SUCK, but what I'm saying is that puffing our chests out and claiming that South Florida players are the best in the country and acting like it's not even close is a little naïve at this point, since we haven't won anything in over a decade, and even our 2001 team was made up of a lot of non SO FLA kids like Dorsey, Ed Reed, Shockey, Portis, etc.

Again, why do you clowns think this proves anything? There aren't unlimited amounts of high BCS level players down here. UM couldn't fill its team with good enough players if all they did was recruit South Florida. Nobody is saying that UM shouldn't recruit from anywhere else. There's this new meme on this board though, among the Golden slurpers, that South Florida kids are too dumb/suck/whatever word you want to use.

It's not really "naive" considering there's independent, verifiable facts that show that South Florida produces a ridiculous amount of elite talent. If you want to debate it, go argue with the NFL GM's and tell them to stop drafting so many south florida players and tell all the other schools to stop hiring coaches with South Florida ties and recruiting down here.

I'm not saying South Florida doesn't produce a lot of talent, I'm questioning if we really produce more talent than the rest of the South.

Also keep in mind that we don't produce a lot of offensive and defensive linemen, tight ends, and recently, even our local linebackers aren't that good. You can't field a team of running backs and wide receivers and cornerbacks.

And that plays in to it.

same to you http://www.maxpreps.com/news/rtk0-D...at-have-produced-the-most-nfl-draft-picks.htm

 

[Cane In The Membrane]

I did a little digging on my own, here's what I came up with. Looking at active NFL Rosters, here's the breakdown -

http://www.maxpreps.com/news/J_G3Ol...ery-active-nfl-player-went-to-high-school.htm

443 were from the SEC recruiting states of Louisiana, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, and the Carolinas
268 were from California
235 were from Texas
222 were from Florida

So there you see that Florida is not any more talented than the other big recruiting grounds.

Of the 222 from Florida, less than half of those were from South Florida. Here's the list if you want to check it for yourself.

http://www.maxpreps.com/news/bJ6fibChKkCOmvtazQBkKw/2012-nfl-players-from-florida.htm

Of the South Florida kids, the overwhelming majority are wide receivers, running backs, and defensive backs.

 

[AntwanJ306]

You guys are stuck on the regionalization issue, as though we have to pick an area to recruit from. Look at it this way: there are FAR more NFL players who aren't from Miami than who are from Miami. The average NFL team has 1 or 2 players from south Florida. Yet people are acting as though we have to have a roster full of Dade kids.

Compare Miami to the United States, not to one other city or region. When you do that, you see that Miami contributes about 3% of the players in the NFL. The rest of the world, which you want to ignore, provides the rest.

 

[weownfsu]

Is this the new thing among Golden supporters? South Florida players suck? lmao

These people will go to no lengths to defend this guy. **** on actual UM players, **** on future UM players . . . whatever it takes to absolve Golden.

Nobody is saying south florida players SUCK, but what I'm saying is that puffing our chests out and claiming that South Florida players are the best in the country and acting like it's not even close is a little naïve at this point, since we haven't won anything in over a decade, and even our 2001 team was made up of a lot of non SO FLA kids like Dorsey, Ed Reed, Shockey, Portis, etc.

Again, why do you clowns think this proves anything? There aren't unlimited amounts of high BCS level players down here. UM couldn't fill its team with good enough players if all they did was recruit South Florida. Nobody is saying that UM shouldn't recruit from anywhere else. There's this new meme on this board though, among the Golden slurpers, that South Florida kids are too dumb/suck/whatever word you want to use.

It's not really "naive" considering there's independent, verifiable facts that show that South Florida produces a ridiculous amount of elite talent. If you want to debate it, go argue with the NFL GM's and tell them to stop drafting so many south florida players and tell all the other schools to stop hiring coaches with South Florida ties and recruiting down here.

I'm not saying South Florida doesn't produce a lot of talent, I'm questioning if we really produce more talent than the rest of the South.

Also keep in mind that we don't produce a lot of offensive and defensive linemen, tight ends, and recently, even our local linebackers aren't that good. You can't field a team of running backs and wide receivers and cornerbacks.

And that plays in to it.

This is what the argument has turned into. South Florida doesn't produce more talent than an entire region of the country.

 

[WhatTheHell]

You guys are stuck on the regionalization issue, as though we have to pick an area to recruit from. Look at it this way: there are FAR more NFL players who aren't from Miami than who are from Miami. The average NFL team has 1 or 2 players from south Florida. Yet people are acting as though we have to have a roster full of Dade kids.

Compare Miami to the United States, not to one other city or region. When you do that, you see that Miami contributes about 3% of the players in the NFL. The rest of the world, which you want to ignore, provides the rest.

Cool, are you gonna admit you were wrong like man, or keep changing your argument and flailing around like a senile idiot?

Will do, then I'll double back around and tell every NFL front office they got it wrong, the city of Miami should not be producing the most players in their league, and to drop everyone born here immediately. Thanks for the homework. I just hope I can warn them before it's too late.

When you join us here in the future, you will realize that the bulk of Miami-based NFL players came from here in the early 2000's. We can't recruit those people anymore.

I guess the last 3 years aren't recent enough? I must be crazy. Is this the future? What year is it!?!?

A simple "I was wrong" will work, thanks.

South Florida produces most NFL draftees in past three years

By Chase Goodbread
College Football 24/7 writer
Published: May 21, 2014 at 10:22 a.m

The South Florida area (Dade, Broward and Palm Beach counties) has produced 57 NFL draft picks over the last three years, more than any metropolitan area in the nation, according to scout.com. Top players from this year's draft who come from the area include Minnesota Vikings first-round pick Teddy Bridgewater, Carolina Panthers first-rounder Kelvin Benjamin and St. Louis Rams second-rounder Lamarcus Joyner.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap20...roduces-most-nfl-draftees-in-past-three-years

 

[weownfsu]

You guys are stuck on the regionalization issue, as though we have to pick an area to recruit from. Look at it this way: there are FAR more NFL players who aren't from Miami than who are from Miami. The average NFL team has 1 or 2 players from south Florida. Yet people are acting as though we have to have a roster full of Dade kids.

Compare Miami to the United States, not to one other city or region. When you do that, you see that Miami contributes about 3% of the players in the NFL. The rest of the world, which you want to ignore, provides the rest.

Link? I see you've moved on from your "South Florida players are too dumb to understand skeems" position,t hough.

Why the **** would we compare a region of the country to the entire country and not another similarly sized region, dip****?

 

[AntwanJ306]

You guys are stuck on the regionalization issue, as though we have to pick an area to recruit from. Look at it this way: there are FAR more NFL players who aren't from Miami than who are from Miami. The average NFL team has 1 or 2 players from south Florida. Yet people are acting as though we have to have a roster full of Dade kids.

Compare Miami to the United States, not to one other city or region. When you do that, you see that Miami contributes about 3% of the players in the NFL. The rest of the world, which you want to ignore, provides the rest.

Link? I see you've moved on from your "South Florida players are too dumb to understand skeems" position,t hough.

Why the **** would we compare a region of the country to the entire country and not another similarly sized region, dip****?

Actually, I want to know why you would compare one region to ONE other region, if the entire point of the discussion is that we want the best players on our football team. Miami has more talent than Atlanta? Cool. The entire US, which the other teams are recruiting from, has more talent than Miami. You want to give Saban JUST central Alabama? Then yes, we have him beat. But he's not that dumb.

 

[weownfsu]

You guys are stuck on the regionalization issue, as though we have to pick an area to recruit from. Look at it this way: there are FAR more NFL players who aren't from Miami than who are from Miami. The average NFL team has 1 or 2 players from south Florida. Yet people are acting as though we have to have a roster full of Dade kids.

Compare Miami to the United States, not to one other city or region. When you do that, you see that Miami contributes about 3% of the players in the NFL. The rest of the world, which you want to ignore, provides the rest.

Link? I see you've moved on from your "South Florida players are too dumb to understand skeems" position,t hough.

Why the **** would we compare a region of the country to the entire country and not another similarly sized region, dip****?

Actually, I want to know why you would compare one region to ONE other region, if the entire point of the discussion is that we want the best players on our football team. Miami has more talent than Atlanta? Cool. The entire US, which the other teams are recruiting from, has more talent than Miami. You want to give Saban JUST central Alabama? Then yes, we have him beat. But he's not that dumb.

Again, nobody is saying that Miami has to solely recruit Dade players. If they do, they're an idiot.

What point are you trying to make? It used to be that south florida players were too dumb to succeed but now I'm not sure what you're going for.

 

[AntwanJ306]

Again, nobody is saying that Miami has to solely recruit Dade players. If they do, they're an idiot.

What point are you trying to make? It used to be that south florida players were too dumb to succeed but now I'm not sure what you're going for.

That's actually a part of it. I think the coaching is horrible, for the most part, in Miami-Dade. You take a guy like Amari Cooper, put him in an environment full of well coached kids hand-picked by an elite coach, and he's going to be a star. Take 40 of those kids, put them with even an above-average coach, and they just can't handle this level of football. You can teach one or two kids to succeed at an elite level. It's hard to teach the basics to 40 or 60 of them.

Again, this has squat to do with Golden.

 

[HurricaneU]

 

[JHallCanes]

Elder was quite a coup for this coaching staff. For as much as they misfire on the field, they get after it on the trail and have found some creative ways to get guys here. Hasn't always worked of but they continue to find talent all over the place.

lets be real here....Corn found us. We didn't recruit him all year. It was his dream to be a Cane and he held out and pushed the issue all the way beyond NSD to make it happen. This is not a knock on the staff, its just the reality of this situation.

Is that what happened? Hmmm I don't remember it like that but I could definitely be wrong

 

[Cane In The Membrane]

You guys are stuck on the regionalization issue, as though we have to pick an area to recruit from. Look at it this way: there are FAR more NFL players who aren't from Miami than who are from Miami. The average NFL team has 1 or 2 players from south Florida. Yet people are acting as though we have to have a roster full of Dade kids.

Compare Miami to the United States, not to one other city or region. When you do that, you see that Miami contributes about 3% of the players in the NFL. The rest of the world, which you want to ignore, provides the rest.

Link? I see you've moved on from your "South Florida players are too dumb to understand skeems" position,t hough.

Why the **** would we compare a region of the country to the entire country and not another similarly sized region, dip****?

Actually, I want to know why you would compare one region to ONE other region, if the entire point of the discussion is that we want the best players on our football team. Miami has more talent than Atlanta? Cool. The entire US, which the other teams are recruiting from, has more talent than Miami. You want to give Saban JUST central Alabama? Then yes, we have him beat. But he's not that dumb.

What they're missing is that most of the South is rural and not "metropolitan," so to say that Miami produces more NFL talent than any other metro area is missing the bulk of the kids that don't come from cities.... which makes up pretty much the entire SEC.

 

[Cane In The Membrane]

Back in the 80s you had race riots all over Miami, the crime rate was unbearable, folks had it hard. The kids that came up in that era had the dog in them, they were the toughest, baddest mother****ers in the country and it showed on the field.

Today's South Florida athlete is diva in comparison. They're babied from the time they're optimist. People want to live in the 80's but that era for Miami is over. That's what it really comes down to IMO.

 

[Joecane]

I did a little digging on my own, here's what I came up with. Looking at active NFL Rosters, here's the breakdown -

http://www.maxpreps.com/news/J_G3Ol...ery-active-nfl-player-went-to-high-school.htm

443 were from the SEC recruiting states of Louisiana, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, and the Carolinas
268 were from California
235 were from Texas
222 were from Florida

So there you see that Florida is not any more talented than the other big recruiting grounds.

Of the 222 from Florida, less than half of those were from South Florida. Here's the list if you want to check it for yourself.

http://www.maxpreps.com/news/bJ6fibChKkCOmvtazQBkKw/2012-nfl-players-from-florida.htm

Of the South Florida kids, the overwhelming majority are wide receivers, running backs, and defensive backs.

LMAO at adding 6 states together in order to bump Florida down one. On top of that, the state North Carolina is not part of the SEC.

Poputlation of Texas: 26 million
Population of California: 38 million
Population of Florida: 19 million

Do I need to do the math for you? It should be obvious enough already.

 

[AntwanJ306]

LMAO at adding 6 states together in order to bump Florida down one. On top of that, the state North Carolina is not part of the SEC.

Poputlation of Texas: 26 million
Population of California: 38 million
Population of Florida: 19 million

Do I need to do the math for you? It should be obvious enough already.

Again, who cares? The coaches in the SEC are recruiting all of those states. Therefore they have access to more talent.

 

[HurricaneU]

I did a little digging on my own, here's what I came up with. Looking at active NFL Rosters, here's the breakdown -

http://www.maxpreps.com/news/J_G3Ol...ery-active-nfl-player-went-to-high-school.htm

443 were from the SEC recruiting states of Louisiana, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, and the Carolinas
268 were from California
235 were from Texas
222 were from Florida

So there you see that Florida is not any more talented than the other big recruiting grounds.

Of the 222 from Florida, less than half of those were from South Florida. Here's the list if you want to check it for yourself.

http://www.maxpreps.com/news/bJ6fibChKkCOmvtazQBkKw/2012-nfl-players-from-florida.htm

Of the South Florida kids, the overwhelming majority are wide receivers, running backs, and defensive backs.

LMAO at adding 6 states together in order to bump Florida down one. On top of that, the state North Carolina is not part of the SEC.

Poputlation of Texas: 26 million
Population of California: 38 million
Population of Florida: 19 million

Do I need to do the math for you? It should be obvious enough already.

Math is not their friend. They've gone full potato.

http://nationalhsfootball.com/2014/...gn-with-fbs-programs-on-national-signing-day/

 

[Cane In The Membrane]

I did a little digging on my own, here's what I came up with. Looking at active NFL Rosters, here's the breakdown -

http://www.maxpreps.com/news/J_G3Ol...ery-active-nfl-player-went-to-high-school.htm

443 were from the SEC recruiting states of Louisiana, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, and the Carolinas
268 were from California
235 were from Texas
222 were from Florida

So there you see that Florida is not any more talented than the other big recruiting grounds.

Of the 222 from Florida, less than half of those were from South Florida. Here's the list if you want to check it for yourself.

http://www.maxpreps.com/news/bJ6fibChKkCOmvtazQBkKw/2012-nfl-players-from-florida.htm

Of the South Florida kids, the overwhelming majority are wide receivers, running backs, and defensive backs.

LMAO at adding 6 states together in order to bump Florida down one. On top of that, the state North Carolina is not part of the SEC.

Poputlation of Texas: 26 million
Population of California: 38 million
Population of Florida: 19 million

Do I need to do the math for you? It should be obvious enough already.

The top SEC schools like Alabama, Auburn, and whatnot cherry pick from that pool of 443 and that's the point. Alabama gets whoever they want from a much larger pool of talent than Miami.

 

[AntwanJ306]

Math is not their friend. They've gone full potato.

http://nationalhsfootball.com/2014/...gn-with-fbs-programs-on-national-signing-day/

So you don't care about real recruiting, you just want Florida to have more.

 

[Joecane]

I did a little digging on my own, here's what I came up with. Looking at active NFL Rosters, here's the breakdown -

http://www.maxpreps.com/news/J_G3Ol...ery-active-nfl-player-went-to-high-school.htm

443 were from the SEC recruiting states of Louisiana, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, and the Carolinas
268 were from California
235 were from Texas
222 were from Florida

So there you see that Florida is not any more talented than the other big recruiting grounds.

Of the 222 from Florida, less than half of those were from South Florida. Here's the list if you want to check it for yourself.

http://www.maxpreps.com/news/bJ6fibChKkCOmvtazQBkKw/2012-nfl-players-from-florida.htm

Of the South Florida kids, the overwhelming majority are wide receivers, running backs, and defensive backs.

LMAO at adding 6 states together in order to bump Florida down one. On top of that, the state North Carolina is not part of the SEC.

Poputlation of Texas: 26 million
Population of California: 38 million
Population of Florida: 19 million

Do I need to do the math for you? It should be obvious enough already.

The top SEC schools like Alabama, Auburn, and whatnot cherry pick from that pool of 443 and that's the point. Alabama gets whoever they want from a much larger pool of talent than Miami.

Nice straw man

 

[tomcanes007]

i dont know if anyone put it up yet but he was mr football for 2 years in Tennessee so he wasnt just anyone either