Coaches deserve most of the blame. Here's why.

[Ispyin]

What players look better this year versus last year ?

 

[Odin]

We went from favorite to win the coastal to now everyone around the program drilling into everyone the words long rebuilt.

 

[Cribby]

Flagg and the entire DL. Maybe Ivy. Flagg and Ivy have prob reached their peaks which isnt saying much.

Well majority of the DL are transfers

 

[hharvey09]

These coaches have zero feel for a game. It’s ok to take a field goal to give you a lead after a turnover. It’s ok to realize they send the house on 3rd and long, so get the ball out quick or throw on 1st and 2nd down when they are playing zone. Bad decision making all around.

 

[Stats02]

A bunch of dudes on defense

Flagg looks better, but he still gets toasted on majority of pass plays thrown his direction and still lets rb's and qb's run right by him when it looks like he has them dead to rights. I guess Kinchens looked better until MTSU game.

 

[the storm]

I'm not getting what Mario is trying to do? Enlighten me please. Embarrassing.

 

[KingCane20]

I don’t have a problem with what he said. I just don’t believe that he will actually kick kids out of the program.

Deion said everything Mario just said but he actually kicked a majority of those kids out and the remaining kids have been in total buy in mode ever since.

 

[clg003]

Well majority of the DL are transfers

Yeah all his transfers.

 

[SayWhat]

These coaches have zero feel for a game. It’s ok to take a field goal to give you a lead after a turnover. It’s ok to realize they send the house on 3rd and long, so get the ball out quick or throw on 1st and 2nd down when they are playing zone. Bad decision making all around.

So true.

What drives me crazy is that when we've got single coverage, no help over the top from a safety of theirs, we audible, and then literally run the slot into the coverage in the middle of the field. We just run routes rather than attack what they're giving us. The offense is a joke and the defense, it isn't really any better. When we try and play catchup, they're sitting back with two safeties daring us to throw the ball.

 

[Handsome Squidbum]

Leadership starts at the top.

Teams are a reflection of their Coaching.

I hope that one day at least one of the "Mario just needs his own players" Cristo-bros joins the Marine Corps and is put in charge of an undisciplined group of young Marines and told to square them away. And then I hope the discipline issues become far worse than ever before under their command. And then when a 4 star General has them stand tall before the man and asks "What the f#ck is wrong with you- how is it possible that things are worse than ever before " I hope their response to the 4 star General is "It's not my fault, I didn't recruit these losers and need to bring in my own Marines." I would love to be in the room to see the reaction to that excuse.

 

[Cribby]

Yeah all his transfers.

Ok lol

 

[919cane]

The neanderbal offense is at the root of most of our issues.

 

[ddann]

Some people see all that stuff from the players and simply conclude that the players stink. You know what the odds are that we assembled an 85 man roster consisting of an average recruting class ranking of 13 and everyone stinks? Off the charts astronomical. It's not a realistic or logical conclusion. We don't have playoff contending talent, but it's better than this. Better than what they are showing. These guys are all playing worse than their talent because they're not trying. THAT is on the coaches. It's the coaches job to sell their vision to the players and to get them to buy in. It's the coaches job to motivate the players. As a coach if you can't do those things, you failed.

Now, Mario can still get buy in from another group of players in the future (his guys etc). Maybe in a couple years when the roster has been turned over he'll be able to put together a team that's fully bought into his vision. Even if that happens, this time period that we're in now is still a massive failure by Mario because he was not able to sell his vision to the current players and get them on board. That's what we're paying him $8 million a year to do and he failed.

Ol’ TF nailed it here. Pay attention, people.

 

[BigJoeGrizzly]

Lincoln Riley did what Mario should have done which was completely overhaul both sides of the ball through the xfer portal and recruiting. This is why Riley‘s first season is considered a success as opposed to the train wreck we are witnessing. The 2021 USC team was awful and nothing short of a complete ***** would have rectified that situation.

 

[AboutTheU05]

Buy in. The coaches didn't get it from these players. Even from early on you could see the disinterest and blank stares from TVD and others on offense. As a coach you have your philosophy (what you're all about and what we're gonna do) and then you have the implementation of that philosophy, meaning getting buy in from the players. Without buy in from the players, your philosphy doens't mean **** no matter how brilliant it is. These players haven't bought in at all. They're making penalties, making boneheaded plays, exhorbitant turnovers, poor technique, freelancing....these are all signs of guys that just don't care.

Some people see all that stuff from the players and simply conclude that the players stink. You know what the odds are that we assembled an 85 man roster consisting of an average recruting class ranking of 13 and everyone stinks? Off the charts astronomical. It's not a realistic or logical conclusion. We don't have playoff contending talent, but it's better than this. Better than what they are showing. These guys are all playing worse than their talent because they're not trying. THAT is on the coaches. It's the coaches job to sell their vision to the players and to get them to buy in. It's the coaches job to motivate the players. As a coach if you can't do those things, you failed.

Now, Mario can still get buy in from another group of players in the future (his guys etc). Maybe in a couple years when the roster has been turned over he'll be able to put together a team that's fully bought into his vision. Even if that happens, this time period that we're in now is still a massive failure by Mario because he was not able to sell his vision to the current players and get them on board. That's what we're paying him $8 million a year to do and he failed.

Most blame for the season or today?? For the season, sure. For today, no ******* way.

 

[CFLCane]

this maricon really thinks he's got that kind of leverage here.

 

[ItsAUThing.com]

Buy in. The coaches didn't get it from these players. Even from early on you could see the disinterest and blank stares from TVD and others on offense. As a coach you have your philosophy (what you're all about and what we're gonna do) and then you have the implementation of that philosophy, meaning getting buy in from the players. Without buy in from the players, your philosphy doens't mean **** no matter how brilliant it is. These players haven't bought in at all. They're making penalties, making boneheaded plays, exhorbitant turnovers, poor technique, freelancing....these are all signs of guys that just don't care.

Some people see all that stuff from the players and simply conclude that the players stink. You know what the odds are that we assembled an 85 man roster consisting of an average recruting class ranking of 13 and everyone stinks? Off the charts astronomical. It's not a realistic or logical conclusion. We don't have playoff contending talent, but it's better than this. Better than what they are showing. These guys are all playing worse than their talent because they're not trying. THAT is on the coaches. It's the coaches job to sell their vision to the players and to get them to buy in. It's the coaches job to motivate the players. As a coach if you can't do those things, you failed.

Now, Mario can still get buy in from another group of players in the future (his guys etc). Maybe in a couple years when the roster has been turned over he'll be able to put together a team that's fully bought into his vision. Even if that happens, this time period that we're in now is still a massive failure by Mario because he was not able to sell his vision to the current players and get them on board. That's what we're paying him $8 million a year to do and he failed.

Not when this has been a 20-year cultural disaster, sorry.

This is on a group of players that was broken by the last regime. Whatever these kids were when they showed up one to three years ago, they became a product of the loser culture and trash program Mario won.

There are kids on this squad that were part of the FIU loss, the double-digit loss at Duke and the bowl shutout to Louisiana Tech in 2019. Those are your upperclassmen and "leaders" when things go in the tank—and when the tough got going in the fourth quarter today, this team folded.

Miami has more talent than Duke, but they are also complacent, lazy underachievers in this program as a result. Look at that Barry Jackson article months back; how kids under Manny fears no repercussions for the actions. No one's position or playing time was threatened and you had a starting quarterback miss curfew and start against FIU, because Diaz feared his best players would bail for the portal. The inmates literally ran the asylum.

Conversely, Duke has a slew of less talented kids who overachiever, work hard, buy in—as Cutcliffe was running a solid little program there doing the most it could, until his time was up. Enter year one of Mike Elko and it's easy to get kids like that to buy-in—as they are looking for new leadership and are eager to learn.

Miami kids think they have all the f**king answers.

Look at quotes Rivers, Clark and Stevenson after the Middle Tennessee loss; guys came out flat, weren't ready, thought they would just roll over those scrubs, while still upset the fell at aTm and ****ed away that opp. You really think this staff didn't work to guard against lethargy that week and put a foot up their ***?

if you really believe a broken culture like that was going to get fixed overnight just because Miami paid big for Cristobal and staff, you're mistaken.

Coaches don't get a pass, but this is on players not heeding the warning or message, as they never dealt with repercussions for their actions under Manny. Mario fired his shot today; get on board, or get the f**k out.
I expect there to be a lot of transfers and house cleaning this off-season, as well as a massive poaching of the Portal—which was why Cristobal poached Andrew Rodgers from Michigan State; the Director of Recruiting Administration who was under Mel Tucker and helped the Spartans with their massive transfer haul in 2021.

Whatever flew under Manny ain't gonna fly anymore. Today was the day that broke something if Mario is unloading the way he is.

I'm still reserving judgment until a few years out and a few more classes.

Yes, today was another brutal and embarrassing loss for this program—but all this "the coaches are to blame" or "Manny would've done a better job", knee-jerk nonsense ain't productive.

More over-emotion from a fam base that is sideways after two decades of irrelevancy.

 

[mat12o]

Leadership starts at the top.

Teams are a reflection of their Coaching.

Tough to overcome bad cultures, sometimes you as the leader need to get rid of the problem, possibly the players in this instance. Time will tell

 

[Handsome Squidbum]

Buy in. The coaches didn't get it from these players. Even from early on you could see the disinterest and blank stares from TVD and others on offense. As a coach you have your philosophy (what you're all about and what we're gonna do) and then you have the implementation of that philosophy, meaning getting buy in from the players. Without buy in from the players, your philosphy doens't mean **** no matter how brilliant it is. These players haven't bought in at all. They're making penalties, making boneheaded plays, exhorbitant turnovers, poor technique, freelancing....these are all signs of guys that just don't care.

Some people see all that stuff from the players and simply conclude that the players stink. You know what the odds are that we assembled an 85 man roster consisting of an average recruting class ranking of 13 and everyone stinks? Off the charts astronomical. It's not a realistic or logical conclusion. We don't have playoff contending talent, but it's better than this. Better than what they are showing. These guys are all playing worse than their talent because they're not trying. THAT is on the coaches. It's the coaches job to sell their vision to the players and to get them to buy in. It's the coaches job to motivate the players. As a coach if you can't do those things, you failed.

Now, Mario can still get buy in from another group of players in the future (his guys etc). Maybe in a couple years when the roster has been turned over he'll be able to put together a team that's fully bought into his vision. Even if that happens, this time period that we're in now is still a massive failure by Mario because he was not able to sell his vision to the current players and get them on board. That's what we're paying him $8 million a year to do and he failed.

With an eye on future transfers, Ole Miss coach Lane Kiffin hopes to see growth from first big crop

Kiffin says he’s aware of the “good and bad” that will likely come with rebuilding through the transfer portal.

cdispatch.com

24 transfers! And you know why he is able to get 24 transfers to Oxford, Mississippi? Because they know they are going to play fun football and are going to win games. Winning games is the only f#cking culture that matters to a coach like Kiffin.

 

[ItsAUThing.com]

this maricon really thinks he's got that kind of leverage here.

Mel Tucker just did the same thing at Michigan State last year and hauled in 30 kids from the Portal.

Whatever Tucker is, or isn't in East Lansing—it's a different era of college football and coaches can fast get rid of dead weight, bringing in players that want to play, like never before in the sport.

This roster will look a lot different next year. Bet on that.