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Cribby said:
What do you consider winning ? 9-10 games here and there. I’m talking chips, conference and natties. This is Miami bro, talking 9-10 here and there doesn’t make my **** hard. You need top 10-15 classes to be in the big boy discussion.

As for scheme that’s true , to a degree. But now everyone is running the spread type concepts so that one advantage is isn’t as big as it once was.
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To get to that championship level, we need to take incremental steps. Maximize what we do have for talent, win 10 a few times in a row, win the Coastal a few times in a row. Then, take the next step to playoff and NC talk.

Until we take the first step we aren't taking the second one. Competent leadership gets us there. We won't go from 7 wins straight to playoffs because we won't be signing those elite NC level guys until we get some juice around the program.
 
hoops156 said:
hes got the talent to excel. hope he puts it together. he did what he did as a cane and its done now. the pats might be his worst nightmare if he isnt prepared to get in w right mindset and leave his other crap behind
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Patriots will brutally settle the question: can JT thrive within a great organization?

Good luck young man--make the most of what is very likely your last opportunity to shine.
 
The Franchise said:
To get to that championship level, we need to take incremental steps. Maximize what we do have for talent, win 10 a few times in a row, win the Coastal a few times in a row. Then, take the next step to playoff and NC talk.

Until we take the first step we aren't taking the second one. Competent leadership gets us there. We won't go from 7 wins straight to playoffs because we won't be signing those elite NC level guys until we get some juice around the program.
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No doubt. Miami has a far higher ceiling than the teams Relly used as an example. But to hit the next level we have top 10-15 classes on the regular then coach them up better.
 
Ethnicsands said:
Some people here said we shoulda done them things back when. And in any case, Manny’s job is to lead, not worry about fam reaction.
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I didn’t say it was but it would have been entertaining

That’s really all I’m here for at this point since we aren’t winning any games any time soon
 
I think manny coaches this team like it’s fantasy camp. It’s almost like the opportunity is still cool but not important. He’s gotta group next year that seems mature. Smart winning freshmen. I’d like to see him talk more about winning number 6 than all the flash. He has a chance to take this opportunity more seriously and fix his issue. The goal needs to be winning not just think it’s really neat to be the head coach here.
 
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Manny Diaz was a rookie HC he didn’t know better& he’s still learning on the job. We should have hired someone with more experience. And let him coach @ temple first and see how he did there before bringing him on.
 
maurice3p said:
Manny Diaz was a rookie HC he didn’t know better& he’s still learning on the job. We should have hired someone with more experience. And let him coach @ temple first and see how BADLY he did there before NOT bringinghim on.
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FIFY
 
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maurice3p said:
Manny Diaz was a rookie HC he didn’t know better& he’s still learning on the job. We should have hired someone with more experience. And let him coach @ temple first and see how he did there before bringing him on.
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I have to disagree a bit, with the new part. He has stuff in his personality I don’t think he can fix.
 
Liberty City El said:
In College, two most important factors to building a winning program is the HC & his ability to accumulate talent.

Leadership by the HC, his coaching acumen & his recruiting supersede all IMO.

Character is huge, it's very important, but the best HC's can win with a team full of juvenile delinquents due to his leadership being able to command respect & his ability to coach on the field.

Clemson doesn't have a locker room full of Christian Missionaries, no winning program does. Clemson, LSU, Bama, Oh St, Oklahoma etc all have high maintenance divas & knucklehead kids off the field, the difference is they have HC's who understand how to deal with those players & can get them to buy into the overall culture & structure of the program.

If you took away all the bad character kids from Saban he would've never won as many Natty's as he did. Same goes for Urby & the rest. Even Bobby Bowden wouldn't have been as great if he didn't/couldn't recruit & coach knuckleheads.

As a HC, if you can't win with some problem child's, you'll never win in college, a roster full of choir boys ain't contending for the playoffs anytime soon.

It's simple to me, find a Good HC who knows wtf he's doing from a X's & O's standpoint & knows how to recruit & you'll win a lot of games, doesn't matter if you have a team full of felons or a team full of homeless shelter volunteers.

It all starts with the Head Coach, you have a good HC & he'll build you a winner. The only thing that can stand in the way of a good HC is a ****** AD & a cheap Board of trustees.
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Tressel and his Band of Pirates come to mind quickly. Tressel managed the living fugg out of that Mo C situation. “Stole a Natty...” because he was able to lead a 5 loss team one year later to the NC game.

Bowden wouldn’t have s single fugging NC if he couldn’t manage his quitters, whiners, rapists, and felons.

It all starts with the head coach and the guy he hires as his strength and conditioning coach.
 
Empirical Cane said:
Patriots will brutally settle the question: can JT thrive within a great organization?

Good luck young man--make the most of what is very likely your last opportunity to shine.
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No Tom Brady won’t make it easy. Players respected him just as much if not more than the staff
 
The Franchise said:
To get to that championship level, we need to take incremental steps. Maximize what we do have for talent, win 10 a few times in a row, win the Coastal a few times in a row. Then, take the next step to playoff and NC talk.

Until we take the first step we aren't taking the second one. Competent leadership gets us there. We won't go from 7 wins straight to playoffs because we won't be signing those elite NC level guys until we get some juice around the program.
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The team was built on kelly, kosar, heismanT, walsh$, erickson, HeismanT2. Won again with kenny D.

all else aside, and that’s a huge aside, we have never been good without a really good QB. Need.
 
The Franchise said:
To get to that championship level, we need to take incremental steps. Maximize what we do have for talent, win 10 a few times in a row, win the Coastal a few times in a row. Then, take the next step to playoff and NC talk.

Until we take the first step we aren't taking the second one. Competent leadership gets us there. We won't go from 7 wins straight to playoffs because we won't be signing those elite NC level guys until we get some juice around the program.
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100%👆👆👆👆👆

Miami needs to "win this play" and stop slipping on the banana of Coastal, ACC, or Natty's.
 
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Cribby said:
I posted a few of these and “ some people “ didn’t want to hear it, not kicking JW off bit the staff and allowing JT back killed the excuse of “ building culture. People were so blinded by talent they couldn’t see guys like this kill your locker room and culture. Then young guys see this and they think it’s acceptable.

Thats why Mandy annoys me with all the culture talk , you allowed a guy back that flat out quit during the season and said I’m out. The same guy you saw walk through drills , skip morning workouts and a lot more drama that amazingly was kept in house.

I will give Mandy credit on that , dude keeps stuff in house like it’s North Korea. What’s sad is JW and Thomas are far from the only knuckleheads but they get the most heat. There was divide in the locker room , guys that wanted to win and do things right. Then the ones who want to party and stay high 24/7.

Ironically the guys drafted are the guys who actually cared, busted their *** and were great teammates.
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That's the silver lining of this season. The guys whom were leaders Shaq, Deejay and Osborn (who immediately stepped in and was our best WR this year) were leaders, and got drafted in the 4th round (Shaq and Deejay) and the 5th round (Osborn, who's hard work paid off as he probably wasn't going to be drafted the year prior).

Meanwhile, JW still doesn't have a school and has the worst loss in school history under his belt to FIU. And Jeff Thomas ends up on a team with the strictest coach in the NFL.
 
Instead of starting a thread:

Anyone see the Last Dance tonight? If so, you can’t f’ing tell me JT4 had more issues than Dennis Rodman. Phil Jackson personifies what coaching and development is, even how he had to deal w MJ’s diva personality of always wanting the ball.

That’s coaching.
 
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