Well, I agree; to get the chips, you need the players. My point is, who cares if you have the players when you don't have the culture? So I cited examples of programs who are at least relevant, w/o the fertile recruiting classes, yet they are vying for conference titles and relevant bowl games b/c of their culture. What would those programs do if they were recruiting in the top 10-15 classes v. top 30-40 classes? We should, at least, be vying for a ACCCG invite every year, at the least, based upon our talent compared to the rest of the Coastal, yet we look as if we're the team full of 2 stars every year. (see LA Tech, CMU, and FIU)
It’s definitely a mixture of the two . Culture/coaching / scheme and the talent. Hence why I was using zook vs Meyer. A great coach has a great culture . Scheme , hiring great assistants and finding the players who fit are all under the same tree.