Read my original post. I know 8 wins is different from 7 wins and totally different from 6 wins but my issue was setting the barometer for improvement at 9 games for a program coming off of a 5-7 season.
And I’m trying to say that having issue with that is incorrect. 5-7 was so bad and so far below what we should have been that 7 wins just doesn’t move the needle. That’s the worst season Miami has had in I don’t know how long, even Manny did better than that. For the last two decades there has been this question of if Miami is finally back and every time we face plant. We win anything less than 8 and kids will roll their eyes and say same ole same ole and pass.
I'll say that Mario did a good job of lowering expectations to the point where expecting more than 7 wins seems unrealistic for a lot of people. I guess if you set the bar as low as possible, just slightly moving up seems like a positive. It's like the kid that gets an F the first semester in school who gets rewarded for bringing home a C- the following semester.
I don’t think Mario necessarily did this, it’s websites like this that made it. It’s not Miami exclusive either. Fans love to lie to themselves. The two largest threads on here are Nole and Gator tears where we make fun of them for the exact same things we are guilty of which is nonsensical rational and circular thought, the playbook, and just overall delusion. It’s why I bring up the golden rule of CFB on here and internally whenever I approach any subject about my Canes which is… if this subject/discussion applied to UF or FSU how would I react to and interpret said discussion?
Here’s a little math for everyone…
15-0
I just like calling out the hypocrisy of guys who claimed "Manny should have been fired after losing to FIU in his first season" but fully support Mario after losing to MTSU (by a lot more) during his first season. Like, why are your standards lower for a much more experienced and much more highly compensated coach than for a guy in his first head coaching job? I get it that we're counting on Mario to build a roster better but I'm just looking for some consistency. Poor coaching hires are why a 7-5 team went 5-7 last year.
This is correct. Lots of folks were expecting to compete with the top 10 schools on a top 50 budget. Still it's not like the only teams we were losing to were big name/big budget programs. We've had a multi-year losing streak to Virginia. There's no real real excuse for Miami to have been a middle of the road ACC school the last 20 years. Should they have been winning the conference yearly? No, that's ridiculous. Should they have been better than a 7-5 program on average? Absolutely.
While I agree with your overall point I think the difference is Manny was here for 3 years before becoming HC so atleast half of the team’s “talent” deficiencies and dysfunction fell on him. Plus when he initially was handed the job he was talking about how we were really close to winning the ACC and just needed continuity to achieve that. As we know he quickly changed that to its a “rebuilding year” when he started to get his **** pushed in.
Yeah, I wasn't defending Manny, he deserved to be let go after the 2021 season. But even his terrible 2019 wasn't nearly as bad as 2022. If people were expecting big things in 2019, they must not have been paying attention to the depth chart on offense. Plus a **** OC hire. My whole point is, 7-5 wasn't good enough for a Manny Diaz coached Miami team. It definitely shouldn't be good enough for a Mario Cristobal coached Miami team.
Exactly! Duke, middle tennessee terrible. 7-5 year 1 is a lot different than 5-7. Maybe you should in a bowl game and win 8 games and have something to build off. This program has lost to crappy teams since joining the ACC and that part of it is brutal
