Bridge Collapse

General contractors, also known as construction managers and construction project managers, oversee building projects from inception through completion. Approximately 66 percent of U.S. general contractors were self-employed in 2010, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Most had temporary offices at the job sites, and some traveled frequently. Although job descriptions vary by job, employer and client, certain tasks are typical.


Planning
General contractors plan all phases of a construction project. They must estimate the costs of materials and staffing; the expense involved in securing permits; and the cost for equipment that must be leased or purchased. Based on their estimates, contractors prepare a budget. They must also prepare a timetable that establishes milestones for phases of the project to ensure completion dates are met.
Interacting with Others
A number of professionals are often involved in a construction project. A general contractor might need to interact with the architect who designed the project or the engineer who developed the mechanical aspects of the project. The contractor might also need to work with other professional construction specialists or sub-contractors, such as landscape architects, master electricians or demolition engineers. Jobs typically involve direct contact with the client to keep him advised on progress and issues that might arise. General contractors often handle hiring and might be responsible for instructing new workers on the specifics of the job.
Ensuring Compliance
On any construction project, there are a number of laws and regulations that a general contractor must follow. Local building ordinances might ban certain materials, for example, such as wood shingles. Contractors must follow applicable labor laws, including organized union contracts under which his employees work. The contractor must know the safety regulations for various jobs and equipment operators and ensure that employees comply.
Responding to Emergencies
General contractors must be prepared to handle any type of emergency that might arise. A worker might be injured on the job or a critical piece of equipment may break. A delivery of materials may fail to arrive, and inclement weather might delay progress. The general contractor is responsible for seeing that all of these situations are correctly handled, whether they involve securing medical attention for an injured worker, locating backup equipment or expediting a supply order. When progress is delayed, the contractor must seek ways to get the project back on track while staying on budget

JUST A SAMPLE HERE....

GOCANES
 
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I got 40 plus years working this **** business , and YES servicing material to the U IPF...DAILY.

I KNOW THIS STUFF GEEEEEEEEEEZ.

GOCANES
 
U all apparently are a NOT familiar at ALL with the construction business ,I'm telling U the GC is responsible for every single aspect of a project EVERYTHING PERIOD mechanical , electrical,personnel , job site security , safety meeting, even people climbing the fence that steal and do damage and YES even the weather......even material deliveries whom are NOT dressed correctly....even parking of the LUNCH TRUCK.....

U WATCH WHAT OSHA DOES......WAKE UP...OMG.

GOCANES


Ease up GC05 I see the point you're trying to make

You forget that I've been in this business for over 20 years too. So I also know how it works.

The GC does NOT do any designs, he is totally responsible for the construction site and for installing ALL of the different components as specified by the design.

The components are usually designed and manufactured by someone else.

While the GC may also do his own inspections, every company I worked with usually inspected the construction progress on their own or hired an outside firm to also perform the inspections.

So my point is, when it comes to a failure, and most contracts specify this....say its an electrical component that , the GC isn't going to take that bullet alone, unless he installed it incorrectly. It could be a manufacturing defect in which case, Westinghouse, Siemans, ABB or GE whoever the manufacture was may be at fault.

Bottom line, whenever something doesn't work right in construction or anything else, there are MANY possibilities as to what went wrong and who could be at fault.

I hope you can see my point also
 
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I work for MCM. Very very sad day for everyone involved and all the families affected. I wish people people would allow the investigation to take place before blaming anyone or anything. No one knows what happened at this time, yet there are ton of people on tv and the internet acting like the investigation is complete. Barely a second spent to mourn the dead.
this is not complicated folks. not a construction guy but we know bridges shouldn't just collapse. doesn't take much to conclude that either the design (engineers), the materials or the contractor were at fault.
 
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this is not complicated folks. not a construction guy but we know bridges shouldn't just collapse. doesn't take much to conclude that either the design (engineers), the materials or the contractor were at fault.
Yeah, I'm really not understanding this "let's not jump to conclusions" ish. A ******* bridge collapsed in normal weather. The engineers/contractors are at fault, period.
 
ok I am sure there are a few engineers on this board besides me, so I will try to bring a bit of insight to this..

A big civil engineering firm that has ASCE PEs (professional certified engineers) working for them will always have very robust peer-checking in place, as this is one of the redundancies enacted to prevent **** like this from happening. MOREOVER, all design engineers would utilize safety factors in their static calculations. I dont know what a pedestrian bridge safety factor would be for static loading but you would expect it to be over 2.5, meaning they would test the bridge to 2.5x the load it will actually experience. It may be more than this, but I am not civil.

That's only theoretical however, the follow-through can make all the difference. How the parts are manufactured, installed and the life cycle/environment are all potential failure points.

Examples:
Not tightening to required torques, or forgetting to fasten things all together
Incorrect manufacturing process, skipping steps specified by the civil engineers or manufacturing engineers
Incorrect materials, or incorrect constituents
Ingress of foreign materials to the structure etc....

What I am trying to say is, the easiest thing to pin it on will be the engineer, and trust me, they will already be reviewing the firms work. Most likely that will be OK at first glance, but all of the down the line steps will be totally available to cause failure.

This will be a long investigation.
 
I'll never forget that drive for the tickets. Long before I was a Dolphin fan I was a Raider fan. That team was like a UM football alumni club: Bill Miller, Pete Banaszak, Dan Connors, later Ted Hendricks, Tony Cline....
...

All that and no mention of Jim Otto?
Sacrilege.
 
this is not complicated folks. not a construction guy but we know bridges shouldn't just collapse. doesn't take much to conclude that either the design (engineers), the materials or the contractor were at fault.


???YEP .......now that really ties down who's responsible.
No need to waste time investigating this any further.....case solved!!!
Gimme the next case Chief!!! :hh9beelfgeoezuwg.jpg:LOL

Just messing with you man
 
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???YEP .......now that really ties down who's responsible.
No need to waste time investigating this any further.....case solved!!!
Gimme the next case Chief!!! :hh9beelfgeoezuwg.jpg:LOL

Just messing with you man
totally not my point. clearly there needs to be a full investigation. just pointing out we know who is at fault we just don't the degree of each.
 
its funny how everyone because an expert on next new tragedy and how they immediately come to a conclusion as to whom to blame.
 
totally not my point. clearly there needs to be a full investigation. just pointing out we know who is at fault we just don't the degree of each.


We only know who "MIGHT/MAY" be at fault or have some fault, because they were involved

It may be one, some or all ......but we're arguing semantics. I think I know what you're trying to point out and I was just messing with you

So whatever...we both agree that there needs to be a full investigation before any of us know anything for sure.

Have a good one
 
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U watch LMAO.....It's already unfolding...It's doesn't matter MCM nailed, I actually love it when my experience is challenged .

LOOK A PLUMBER COULD HAVE DONE SOMETHING IT'S THE GC'S FAULT ALSO HE OVER LOOKS EVERYTHING LMAO...WATCH.

YOU GUY ARE ROOKIES......FOLLOW THE WHITE LINE I'LL TELL U WHEN IT'S LUNCH

GOCANES
 
U watch LMAO.....It's already unfolding...It's doesn't matter MCM nailed, I actually love it when my experience is challenged .

LOOK A PLUMBER COULD HAVE DONE SOMETHING IT'S THE GC'S FAULT ALSO HE OVER LOOKS EVERYTHING LMAO...WATCH.

YOU GUY ARE ROOKIES......FOLLOW THE WHITE LINE I'LL TELL U WHEN IT'S LUNCH

GOCANES


Take a break, *******.

Nobody cares about your so-called “expertise”

You’re all over this thread “LMAO” beating your chest and SHOUTING about how much YOU know making it about YOU when there are probably still bodies yet to pull out, and families are crying.

Jesus, just shut the fūck up already. This isn’t a laughing matter or an I-told-you-so-time. There’ll be an investigation and all that.

Your posts are sickening.
 
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Take a break, *******.

Nobody cares about your so-called “expertise”

You’re all over this thread “LMAO” beating your chest and SHOUTING about how much YOU know making it about YOU when there are probably still bodies yet to pull out, and families are crying.

Jesus, just shut the fūck up already. This isn’t a laughing matter or an I-told-you-so-time. There’ll be an investigation and all that.

Your posts are sickening.

I never said it was a laughing matter your ignorance of the construction business shines bright an SILLY to believe U feel so strongly about something U know nothing about for all to see along with your nasty replies.

Shame on U post dirt especially being ALL-ACC embarrassing as a veteran of this board to type things like this ,show your better then this in the future moving forward.

GOCANES
 
Didn’t a bridge collapse a few years back on the dolphin? I think it was close by also next to 107th.
 
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