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mossmadness
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Yep. The defense ranked in the 80s last year. Ivey gets beat off the line for 98 yards and that’s just a dude that had no talent last year, still having no talent this year.
The offense is the biggest concern because it’s this bad for scheme reasons.
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Yep. Same people blaming the WRs would be the Texas A&M fans still blaming the WR talent 4 years into Jimbo’s scheme for the lack of explosive passing plays every year.
JimmyJohnsonsHair
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OL was largely a numbers problem last week. MTSU was stacking the box and stuffing our run game because they didn’t have to respect the passing game. Oluwaseun was getting beat pretty regularly though. Not sure why he is starting.
It's funny how often fans love to blame the players. Half this board legitimately thinks TVD forgot how to throw or be a QB. Half this board thinks Rooster has regressed because we're running him between the tackles constantly and never actually put him in space where he belongs. Half this board things are mediocre WRs have regressed to be trash because our scheme has 3 WR's run routes into the same 5 yard box allowing 1 DB to cover them at the same time.
Going into tight sets and trying to run into what could arguably be considered 9 and 10 man boxes is idiotic. It didn't work and we had so many threads and posts afterwards saying our OL should be embarrassed because they clearly didn't want it bad enough. Lmao. Our OL was never going to succeed with last week's gameplan.
Edit: The timing couldn't have been better. The very next post is about our OL vs MTSU lol
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When you lose to a team with the talent and coaching gap of MTSU, EVERYONE is to blame. You don't think poor tackling effort, bad body language, heart/effort, etc is on the players? You don't think every player on the OL who was losing their 1:1 matchup to a guy on that MTSU DLine is at fault?
This is part of the problem. Everyone is to blame but everyone spends more time trying to point the finger at someone else or making excuses. If we had players and coaches come out and say we sucked at this, that and the other and we are all responsible, we are all disgusted, this is what we are going to do, etc.....it would make me feel like this is headed in the right direction.
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I came out of my hiatus to say this...
Yea, you really no professor.
Or professional.
Or whatever "TheProf" in your name means, you still ain't it.
Your post suxand so are the players you're sticking up for.
I'm going back to my hiatus. Yall some dumb *** cornball *** mfers. Like the coaches telling TVD hey miss that wide open guy, or hey Flagg, go out there and block yourself out of the play or Ivey go suck some more. Like really... coaches get blame but there's so much that they can do (except Gattis get that ninja tf outta here frfr)
So no need to reply, I'm not gonna respond to you or any poRst that you make right now. Downvote me all u want, dont care, I need more downvotes. You normally post better than this but deadass TF.... THIS WAS STUPID.
Back on my hiatus.
Again, you soft shouldered crybaby *** ninjas got it
Again, our players are not perfect, no players are. Our players have limitations that the staff should be aware of. When we do not put them in position to succeed, can we really blame the players? Should we be blaming Mallory for being a terrible blocker after his 19th year of college, or should we question why we ever run anything that depends on him to be a good blocker?
What, does Mallory simply not want it bad enough? Are we saying he is a lazy blocker? The dude just sucks at blocking. It is what it is. I know who he is as a player and am not going to sit here and blame him for being put into the positions he is put into on a weekly basis. Whenever we run a play that gets blown up because he lost yet another blocking battle, that's on the staff for still scheming an offense up that requires a player to do something they simply are not capable of.
This team has holes throughout the roster and that was known going into the year. It's why 8 wins was my expectation. I said it in other posts already, but I am fine losing if it's simply because we don't have the horses. I am not fine losing when we continuously try and put a square peg in a round hole. If we were using Rooster, Mallory, Ivey, etc. correctly and they were getting beat, that's fine. You can accept the other guy being better than you. When you're losing to MTSU because you consistently are running into a loaded box and are making zero adjustments to help your players out, that's just terrible coaching.
JimmyJohnsonsHair
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Exactly. Our WRs were literally running INTO coverage in the aTm game. Who coached them to do that? Oh right.
Losing was a lot of people’s fault. I saw an oline play worse against lesser comp than the week before. I saw lackadaisical corner play vs the week before. I think the players although a loss were riding high after playing well and getting praise versus an SEC team on the road in which they had a chance to win the game so they came out as of just showing up could beat MTSU.
However TVD didn’t mess some open receivers that would’ve helped get him in rhythm and move the chains. But Also have to ask, how is he being taught to go through his reads is it high to low across a certain side is it scan left to right right to left we don’t know that.
Also receivers dropped some key catches
Also I think a lot of the play calls were not great in this game, versus last week where there are some great play calls we just couldn’t score.
And I think we have to revamp some quick hitting plays take advantage of some off coverage so mismatch get us needs to put in some safety valve outlets.
There were a few spread looks but I think there needs to be more.
All in all everyone is to blame not one single person player everyone
However TVD didn’t mess some open receivers that would’ve helped get him in rhythm and move the chains. But Also have to ask, how is he being taught to go through his reads is it high to low across a certain side is it scan left to right right to left we don’t know that.
Also receivers dropped some key catches
Also I think a lot of the play calls were not great in this game, versus last week where there are some great play calls we just couldn’t score.
And I think we have to revamp some quick hitting plays take advantage of some off coverage so mismatch get us needs to put in some safety valve outlets.
There were a few spread looks but I think there needs to be more.
All in all everyone is to blame not one single person player everyone
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Agree 100%. There is no reason we should lose to MTSU at home, away, on a neutral field or on Mars. As I recall, at his post game interview, Mario mentioned that one of the problems the Canes had was MTSU putting 2 and 3 guys in the box and it was hard to run against. Duh! So what we do? Try it again, and again.
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Should we be blaming Mallory for being a terrible blocker after his 19th year of college, or should we question why we ever run anything that depends on him to be a good blocker?
My answer? Both. You have a job, work on it and get better. Is he in the gym working on similar movements? Is he hitting the sleds after practice? Is he working on technique during his own time or playing video games? I honestly don't know. Mallory is not a great blocker but when he whiffs on DBs, it's not acceptable. He's a big guy, he needs to do better if he wants a future in this sport or wants to keep his snap share.
On the flipside, coaches should be using him in way to maximize his strengths and not necessarily expose his weaknesses. So more flex formations with seams, wheel routes, etc to use his size and straight line speed. You need to mix it up and use him in blocking plays but it seems we continually put guys in position they do not excel in. Mallory is not the only one.
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I blame TVD and Parrish for three 1st quarter turnovers. DJ Ivey, Jaden Harris, Tyriq Stevenson for being slower than my mother. James Williams for being 6'5. Fatteus Franklin for being too thick. Arroyo for whiffing on every lead block he's been asked to execute. Oluwaseun and Clark for being too small. Redding for being too slow and uncoordinated. Plenty of blame to go around come on.
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Agree 100%. But at this point all we can do is hope Ponce and the analysts help Gattis develop a better plan that allows some flexibility based on coverage instead of taking a minute for check with me.
But that's not as important as chicken pesto pasta. I'm thinking bowties with 50-50 pesto/heavy cream.
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Blame for the poor start falls on everyone, players and staff.
Now I am of the school that “Coaching isn’t everything, it’s the only thing”, but the players have not upheld their part of the bargain either.
Ultimately the responsibility falls on the coaching staff to put the players in the best position. We have a lot of good players, but not great. Great players generally succeed in any circumstance. Goo to very good players need the right situation. Noone is perfect, but our coaches have made too many mistakes on the field. Head coach, oc, and dc have done good things, but also made decisions that put players in untenable positions.
The problem with this team right now is inconsistency from Mario down. We are not in sync with each other. Gattis makes some good calls then some bad ones. Steele has done the same. Mario has made some questionable 4th down decisions that came back to bite and waited too long to sit TVD.
TVD needs things adjusted. The receivers need to be more aggressive. Oline needs to be sharper on their assignments. Kinchens needs to play deeper. Ivey should not be on the field if he is not jamming.
We need more quick passing as a first and second read. More quick playaction/rpo as well. We need to stop running man unless we are putting hands on receivers. If we are not jamming, we need to be in cover 3 or quarters and KNOW our assignments EVERY PLAY.
It’s the coaches’ job to get these guys in sync and working hard. We need to take a look at our system of accountability and incentives.
This is a work in progress though. MTSU was a perfect storm that lead to catastrophic failure. They made some otherworldly plays that went way beyond the talent they typically demonstrate. Pitt lost to a directional Michigan school and still won the conference last year. Let’s hope we can circle the wagons and get back on track.
Now I am of the school that “Coaching isn’t everything, it’s the only thing”, but the players have not upheld their part of the bargain either.
Ultimately the responsibility falls on the coaching staff to put the players in the best position. We have a lot of good players, but not great. Great players generally succeed in any circumstance. Goo to very good players need the right situation. Noone is perfect, but our coaches have made too many mistakes on the field. Head coach, oc, and dc have done good things, but also made decisions that put players in untenable positions.
The problem with this team right now is inconsistency from Mario down. We are not in sync with each other. Gattis makes some good calls then some bad ones. Steele has done the same. Mario has made some questionable 4th down decisions that came back to bite and waited too long to sit TVD.
TVD needs things adjusted. The receivers need to be more aggressive. Oline needs to be sharper on their assignments. Kinchens needs to play deeper. Ivey should not be on the field if he is not jamming.
We need more quick passing as a first and second read. More quick playaction/rpo as well. We need to stop running man unless we are putting hands on receivers. If we are not jamming, we need to be in cover 3 or quarters and KNOW our assignments EVERY PLAY.
It’s the coaches’ job to get these guys in sync and working hard. We need to take a look at our system of accountability and incentives.
This is a work in progress though. MTSU was a perfect storm that lead to catastrophic failure. They made some otherworldly plays that went way beyond the talent they typically demonstrate. Pitt lost to a directional Michigan school and still won the conference last year. Let’s hope we can circle the wagons and get back on track.