Benedict Cristobal is gone

[Larry]

You just don't take a job and then interview for a new one before you've even started to work. That's a bad act, IMO. No excuses. Careers are long. No need for that nonsense.

Moreover he walks out with our reruiting strategy etc. and didnt even give us anything of value from himself. Complete hose**** move. Michael Corleone would not put up with this ****.

Exactly. This dude gets it. You just don't start interviewing after a month on the job. There's still black and white and right and wrong no matter how pussified and castrated this world has become.

Yup. This isn't even close to debatable. If he got offered some totally unexpected opportunity (legit HC job in CFB or coord. job in NFL, not that he'd get such an offer), I could see it. Short of that, do what you signed up for for at least a reasonable period of time before looking around. Mario's like a person who is scouting out their next lay on the night of their own wedding.

At this point, I think Mario's going to make himself toxic. What Athletic Director would want to hire him knowing that he might just bolt in a New York minute before doing anything even slightly useful? His next job needs to be a mid-major job in all likelihood, as he's tarnished at this point. Those AD's need someone to turn the program, not just put in one season.

College football continues to hire and promote Todd Graham, FWIW.

 

[USNAVYCANE]

Saban is a scum bucket no one owns him anything or needs to bow down to him for anything.

 

[RiDLer80]

So is he gone?

 

[The Franchise]

You just don't take a job and then interview for a new one before you've even started to work. That's a bad act, IMO. No excuses. Careers are long. No need for that nonsense.

Moreover he walks out with our reruiting strategy etc. and didnt even give us anything of value from himself. Complete hose**** move. Michael Corleone would not put up with this ****.

Exactly. This dude gets it. You just don't start interviewing after a month on the job. There's still black and white and right and wrong no matter how pussified and castrated this world has become.

Yup. This isn't even close to debatable. If he got offered some totally unexpected opportunity (legit HC job in CFB or coord. job in NFL, not that he'd get such an offer), I could see it. Short of that, do what you signed up for for at least a reasonable period of time before looking around. Mario's like a person who is scouting out their next lay on the night of their own wedding.

At this point, I think Mario's going to make himself toxic. What Athletic Director would want to hire him knowing that he might just bolt in a New York minute before doing anything even slightly useful? His next job needs to be a mid-major job in all likelihood, as he's tarnished at this point. Those AD's need someone to turn the program, not just put in one season.

I agree completely. If Beanerdict makes it through this thing and Alshermond doesn't fire him, I will never look at him the same way. He's completely tarnished his image, and I can see clearly now that he probably screwed Frito Bandito Garcia over a hundred and one times and finally wore out his welcome there. Never made sense for him to get fired like that until now. I have no doubt he was constantly double-dealing while at FIU, and Garcia got sick of it. It's hard to run a program when one of your top dogs is out there constantly self-dealing and sniffing around for a better opportunity.

 

[Ethnicsands]

It's just not acceptable behavior in any profession, legit or not. If he were in a street gang, they'd find his carcass hanging from a bridge.

 

[k9cane]

I keep hearing about professional courtesy, honestly, how bout Mario just saying,"Mr. Saban, thanks, but no thanks. I have a job that I just got. Im good here."

I remember at Golden's opening presser at UM and someone asked him about the Penn State gig( before all the Sandusky stuff came out) and he said,"I dont' want to talk about anyone else's job( Paterno's), all I know is I got the best job in America"

That right there, he had me 'hello'

That's a Miami Man....

 

[CaneBoss]

So is he gone?

No, all that is known is that he interviewed, that money is supposedly a factor (from a source close to him), and that he declined giving a comment to the Herald. There really hasn't been any updates today, so who knows what the story is.

 

[The Franchise]

I keep hearing about professional courtesy, honestly, how bout Mario just saying,"Mr. Saban, thanks, but no thanks. I have a job that I just got. Im good here."

I remember at Golden's opening presser at UM ad someone asked him about the Penn State gig( before all the Sandusky stuff came out) and he said,"I dont' want to talk about anyone else's job( Paterno's), all I know is I got the best job in America"

That right there, he had me 'hello'

That's a Miami Man....

I have to believe that the people talking about Fredo Cristoballbag owing a professional courtesy to Saban (and not to his employer UM) are either retarded or trolling. No one of sound mind could actually have that opinion.

 

[ACKCANE]

I still think this is a Golden move ... I say Golden told Mario to put his name out there or at least be receptive. Take interviews. Put Miami out there. Alabama the #1 team this decade trying to poach a Miami coach. Miami coach says no thank you ... Win for Miami. I guarantee you Golden and Mario discussed this before accepting the interview.

 

[Big Sky Cane]

If this happens are people more upset that MC is leaving after a few months from his alma materl, losing a quality coach or MC will recruit SoFl on behalf of the Bama brand?

Let's be honest......Bama doesn't need Crystal Ball to recruit SFL.

 

[MedleyCane]

Why is this 14 pages of news?

They won the national championship. Why wouldn't you take the interview? Even if you don't want the job you do the interview as a professional courtesy.

Professional Courtesy?
And to whom?
How about respecting your current employer who just hired you a few weeks ago?
You have no clue.

You turn down an opportunity to interview for a prestigious position you send out a message.

And what message would he be sending if he is already interviewing for other gigs a few weeks after landing a big gig at your alma-mater?
Seriously, you need to have an adult proofread your stuff before you type because your ethics are flawed.

Professional courtesy to Nick Saban, who requested the interview with you. Interviews go both ways. The employer is interested in your services as an employee. Alabama is the top "company" in this line of work as of today. If you turn down an interview with Alabama you send a message to other employers that you want to be in your current position, are comfortable, and take your name out of consideration by default.

This would pose a problem for Mario because I would think it were fairly obvious to all concerned parties that they all knew a coach with Cristobal's credentials didn't take the Assoc HC job as anything more than a stopgap and the opportunity was probably offered to him as such, as a way to mutually benefit and help Al out a little whilst Mario landed on his feet.

That one article says Golden was "made aware" of the interview, but don't you think with their relationship (Al calling Mario as soon as he found out he was fired and offering support and then soon after a job) that Mario spoke with Al about the situation in depth and made sure that Al gave him his blessing before he left for Tuscaloosa?

Why is this 14 pages of news?

They won the national championship. Why wouldn't you take the interview? Even if you don't want the job you do the interview as a professional courtesy. You turn down an opportunity to interview for a prestigious position you send out a message.

Wow.....and this guy enters after 14 pages to try and prove a flawed point that was debunked 8 pages ago.

I wasn't trying to prove anything. I was just confused as to why you wouldn't want a former player/coach to succeed? You'd legit rather he stayed an Assoc. HC forever? It's not as if the Alabama OL job was going to be opened up against next year just so that Mario could wait a year and make an amicable departure.

The guy's barely coached TE's in his life and people are acting like he was going to be here more than just the one year anyways? What difference does it make? Carroll can go back to TE's and it'll open up a spot on the coaching staff for someone who plans to stay more than 10 months.

Edit: It's not as if Mario has an opportunity to "move up in the company" either. Golden is HC for 123572809572895 years. Coley is young and up and coming. What was he going to do? He wasn't going to coach the defense obviously.

I guess that ol ball coach at Boise State lacks considerable amount of professionalism because he doesn't entertain offers
from bigger BCS schools.
You know, that "professional courtesy" stuff.
Are you even a Cane fan?

 

[MetiSkeemz]

I still think this is a Golden move ... I say Golden told Mario to put his name out there or at least be receptive. Take interviews. Put Miami out there. Alabama the #1 team this decade trying to poach a Miami coach. Miami coach says no thank you ... Win for Miami. I guarantee you Golden and Mario discussed this before accepting the interview.

We already accomplished that on TV with AQM. I don't see golden being an attention ***** to that extent.

 

[Ethnicsands]

I'm going to qualify my criticism to an extent. Sounds like he gave AG a heads up. If this was Mario just taking an interview because it bolsters his 'rep' and maybe helps him seem sought after so he's in the mix for future high profile openings, and he doesn't intend to take it, and AG is okay with him doing it, then it's a meh to me. The key is whether AG supported him taking the interview for real (not just on the surface).

However, anyone saying this is 'professional courtesy' to Saban is a moran. You don't owe someone an interview. You can politely decline.

 

[The Franchise]

I'm going to qualify my criticism to an extent. Sounds like he gave AG a heads up. If this was Mario just taking an interview because it bolsters his 'rep' and maybe helps him seem sought after so he's in the mix for future high profile openings, and he doesn't intend to take it, and AG is okay with him doing it, then it's a meh to me. The key is whether AG supported him taking the interview for real (not just on the surface).

However, anyone saying this is 'professional courtesy' to Saban is a moran. You don't owe someone an interview. You can politely decline.

I seriously doubt that Al is good with this act of treason unless he's a total schmoe.

 

[The Franchise]

I still think this is a Golden move ... I say Golden told Mario to put his name out there or at least be receptive. Take interviews. Put Miami out there. Alabama the #1 team this decade trying to poach a Miami coach. Miami coach says no thank you ... Win for Miami. I guarantee you Golden and Mario discussed this before accepting the interview.

We already accomplished that on TV with AQM. I don't see golden being an attention ***** to that extent.

Ack is spitting truth, Meti. Al's all about proving how valuable the people around him are. Al sent his wife over to blow me yesterday to prove how desirable she is.

 

[Ethnicsands]

I'm going to qualify my criticism to an extent. Sounds like he gave AG a heads up. If this was Mario just taking an interview because it bolsters his 'rep' and maybe helps him seem sought after so he's in the mix for future high profile openings, and he doesn't intend to take it, and AG is okay with him doing it, then it's a meh to me. The key is whether AG supported him taking the interview for real (not just on the surface).

However, anyone saying this is 'professional courtesy' to Saban is a moran. You don't owe someone an interview. You can politely decline.

I seriously doubt that Al is good with this act of treason unless he's a total schmoe.

You may be right, but it depends on what their discussion was. I'm having a hard time seeing how Mario taking this interview isn't an insane decision unless he basically told Al hey, I'm going to go meet him, but am not going to take the position seriously, and Al believed him.

Mario making this lateral move at this time shows himself to be a total prick and burns bridges in Miami, which he presumably doesn't want to do, and would know.

Mario taking the interview under circumstances where Al is anything less than comfortable with him doing it, then _not_ taking the Saban job shows himself to be an idiot as he's going to have burnt himself in Al's eyes (who could trust him at that point?). And he should know that.

So my scenarios are Mario's a scumbag, Mario's an idiot, or Al gave him his blessing.

I prefer to think he's not an idiot. So if as expected he doesn't take the job ... well, maybe it just wasn't that big a deal.

 

[k9cane]

Im not naive, I understand the nature of this profession, but can we have some 'Miami Men'? Please?

Guys like Soldinger, Kehoe and the like( yeah, I know they aren't perfect) who love the U, understand it's not always about the bottom line. Who give everything they have to this program. Maybe Im naive, but I care about loyalty and the greater good. Mercenaries belong elsewhere, like Bo Schemblecher wanted 'Michigan Men' I want Miami Men

And c'mon, its not like Cristobal is making minumum wage, far from that. Is it too much too ask for one f'n year?!?! If it is, then I'm just a pollyanna

Golden has had chances to leave, he's stayed steadfast. I still remember the look on his face when the Shapiro stuff broke. But here he still is at UM, that's my guy. I ride and die with him( till he does me wrong)

I hope Mario is that same guy....

 

[wushah]

Agree with K9 and Ethnic here. I have to imagine that the Miami gig is his dream job. In fact, I always figured he would be head coach here at some point. Is he really stupid enough to **** that opportunity away to become OL coach at Bama bc Saban is offering him some more money? WTF does that say about his ability to envision his future, his decision-making, etc.?

He can't be that much of a fool and idiot...right?

 

[The Franchise]

I'm going to qualify my criticism to an extent. Sounds like he gave AG a heads up. If this was Mario just taking an interview because it bolsters his 'rep' and maybe helps him seem sought after so he's in the mix for future high profile openings, and he doesn't intend to take it, and AG is okay with him doing it, then it's a meh to me. The key is whether AG supported him taking the interview for real (not just on the surface).

However, anyone saying this is 'professional courtesy' to Saban is a moran. You don't owe someone an interview. You can politely decline.

I seriously doubt that Al is good with this act of treason unless he's a total schmoe.

You may be right, but it depends on what their discussion was. I'm having a hard time seeing how Mario taking this interview isn't an insane decision unless he basically told Al hey, I'm going to go meet him, but am not going to take the position seriously, and Al believed him.

Mario making this lateral move at this time shows himself to be a total prick and burns bridges in Miami, which he presumably doesn't want to do, and would know.

Mario taking the interview under circumstances where Al is anything less than comfortable with him doing it, then _not_ taking the Saban job shows himself to be an idiot as he's going to have burnt himself in Al's eyes (who could trust him at that point?). And he should know that.

So my scenarios are Mario's a scumbag, Mario's an idiot, or Al gave him his blessing.

I prefer to think he's not an idiot. So if as expected he doesn't take the job ... well, maybe it just wasn't that big a deal.

Not sure the job was offered to him. But his silence after the interview is deafening. If he truly wasn't serious about taking the job, then he would have shut it down very quickly after the interview.

I'm pretty sure Fredo's a total scumbag (especially in light of all of his dalliances while at fiu and his sudden firing, which isn't probably as one-sidedly dumb as originally thought), and I'm equally pretty sure that Al isn't a schmoe and really has no interest in having the Associate HC that he just hired a month ago run off to suck Saban's dyck. The only thing that comes from that publicly is that Alabama is the better program, and it's so much better that the Associate HC, who is a UM alum and was just hired a month ago, is interviewing there for a lateral move. It's a big deal because it puts UM in a far inferior light publicly.

 

[The Franchise]

Im not naive, I understand the nature of this profession, but can we have some 'Miami Men'? Please?

Guys like Soldinger, Kehoe and the like( yeah, I know they aren't perfect) who love the U, understand it's not always about the bottom line. Who give everything they have to this program. Maybe Im naive, but I care about loyalty and the greater good. Mercenaries belong elsewhere, like Bo Schemblecher wanted 'Michigan Men' I want Miami Men

And c'mon, its not like Cristobal is making minumum wage, far from that. Is it too much too ask for one f'n year?!?! If it is, then I'm just a pollyanna

Golden has had chances to leave, he's stayed steadfast. I still remember the look on his face when the Shapiro stuff broke. But here he still is at UM, that's my guy. I ride and die with him( till he does me wrong)

I hope Mario is that same guy....

Good stuff, Steve. But Fredo's already proven he's not that guy by taking the interview a month into his "tenure" here. I guess all that UM fans can hope for is that he doesn't get the job and no other lateral openings become available between now and the beginning of the season. I'd be done with the guy if I was Al.