Benedict Cristobal is gone

[razrcane]

I have a lake house on lake martin in bama. Married a u of bama girl. Bama is not bad.

live in.Birmingham now and your money.goes a lot further here and if you are on staff people treat you like kings

 

[The Franchise]

So when spring practice starts and Mario is out coaching the kids up on Greentree instead of getting a bigger and more prestigious NFL paycheck are you all going to be saying the same ****?

Not surprised that in your rush to be a holier than thou condescending **** that you missed the point. Perhaps in your world, a guy taking interviews for less than lateral moves a month after being hired by his alma mater is no big deal. Most people don't see it that way.

 

[The Franchise]

Well it depends on what "confirmed" is.

247 Bama, 247 Canes, Canes Insider and the Miami Herald have all said to have "confirmed" the original report through their sources. TFWIW

Do a basic google search and you'll find that out.

As far as I can tell, it's all based on the 247Sports.com rumor and has not been independently confirmed. E.g, Sporting News is reporting that "According to 247Sports.com...", and the Herald is reporting that "according to a source".

Pretty sure we've all made it clear that our comments are contingent on the interview taking place. If it didn't, then obviously there's nothing to discuss.

 

[The Franchise]

Why is this 14 pages of news?

They won the national championship. Why wouldn't you take the interview? Even if you don't want the job you do the interview as a professional courtesy. You turn down an opportunity to interview for a prestigious position you send out a message.

Wow.....and this guy enters after 14 pages to try and prove a flawed point that was debunked 8 pages ago.

WHat do you expect from a classy dude who probably lives in SEC country?

He probably is the type that would offer a polite golf-clap upon catching his wife giving some dude a reacharound in their bedroom.

It would be the classy thing to do.

Professional courtesy, you know.

He'd only golf clap if the dude doing work on his chick was more prestigious than him. If it was a lowly bum he'd be inclined to raise his voice.

 

[Problem2]

"### An associate of Mario Cristobal pointed to a significant salary increase as one reason for his interest in the Alabama offensive line coaching job. Cristobal interviewed Friday."

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/sports-buzz/#storylink=cpy

If he was about the money, why didn't he take the job with the Chimp and the Bucs? Disrespectful as **** to play Golden like this.

*if it's true

 

[The Franchise]

I am not here to flame, but IF he went to Al and asked for permission to interview, and IT was given, there is where the ETHICS would be involved. Projecting one's opinion as "ethics" is suspect. And before any fanning of further flames goes, I have taken and completed master's level "Ethics" courses in college and also through many professional accredited courses through employment.

The term "Ethics" has been thrown around pretty loosely and without merit, especially without knowing the FACTS of what Al has allowed. With that, carry on bashing, it sounds great and will be fruitful.

The Planters Peanut will be knocking on your door soon to fit you for a top hat and spats. Your classiness will not go unrewarded.

 

[razrcane]

so significantly more money..getting to work for the two time defending national champions and the best coach in.college football.....expand his knowledge base and connections...what's the problem?

..when opportunity like that knocks you at the very least listen

 

[FullyERicht]

The NFL would have paid him more. Why not leave for a job in Tampa or Cleveland? Sorry, Bama ain't the League.

Besides, what are they going to pay him? A million? At what point do we start saying a coaching salary cap is necessary before the sport gets completely out of control.

 

[NVA CANE]

The pay bump sounds suspicious to me. I don't buy it considering he was offered a job in the NFL and turned it down. It could be something Cristobal threw out there as an excuse to justify jumping ship if he does. Still waiting to see what comes of this but sounds like he is interested in the job which moves me from the wait and see position to the **** him position.

 

[CaneBoss]

"### An associate of Mario Cristobal pointed to a significant salary increase as one reason for his interest in the Alabama offensive line coaching job. Cristobal interviewed Friday."

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/sports-buzz/#storylink=cpy

If he was about the money, why didn't he take the job with the Chimp and the Bucs? Disrespectful as **** to play Golden like this.

*if it's true

I saw this just below that story

Cristobal declined to comment Friday evening. He has made Al Golden aware of the interview before it happened.



Interesting. If true about the more money thing, it is just mind blowing given all the opportunities he has made for more $$ in the past. None of it makes any sense to me. If he does leave, then going forward the word "loyalty" is dead to me....

 

[MedleyCane]

I guess im in the minority but didnt he interview with rutgers when he was at fiu? And he decided to stay. There is nothing wrong with exploring your options. It sucks but I cant knock a man for hearing what someone has to offer.

If he leaves I would agree on him selling miami out and being a traitor but until then I will take a wait and see approach.

"Exploring your options" is the new euphemism for engaging in scumbaggery. Go f#ck a new chick and just tell your wife you were exploring your options because you thought the new chick's pu$$y might be tighter.

At this point he only ordered a drink and asked the waitress if she is single. If he asks her to go to the bathroom (2nd interview) and destroys her, then I will be upset.

You're obviously much more forgiving of disloyalty than I am. You'll probably live a longer life than I will because you don't let disloyalty and scumbaggery get you upset.

Maybe it's the guinea in me, but disloyalty and double-dealing makes me see red. Always has. Always will. F#ck with the family, and you're dead to me. He's no different than any other sort of rat weasel if he's taking interviews a month after being given the Associate Head Corch gig at my and his alma mater.

As for your analogy, if my chick is flirting with the bartender, then she might as well f#ck him because it's all the same and she's already dead to me anyway. I'm a hard liner, sir. A gritty old school dude who puts honor and loyalty ahead of scrounging for an extra dollar like some sort of crack fiend.

Same here!

 

[Noah]

Why is this 14 pages of news?

They won the national championship. Why wouldn't you take the interview? Even if you don't want the job you do the interview as a professional courtesy.

Professional Courtesy?
And to whom?
How about respecting your current employer who just hired you a few weeks ago?
You have no clue.

You turn down an opportunity to interview for a prestigious position you send out a message.

And what message would he be sending if he is already interviewing for other gigs a few weeks after landing a big gig at your alma-mater?
Seriously, you need to have an adult proofread your stuff before you type because your ethics are flawed.

Professional courtesy to Nick Saban, who requested the interview with you. Interviews go both ways. The employer is interested in your services as an employee. Alabama is the top "company" in this line of work as of today. If you turn down an interview with Alabama you send a message to other employers that you want to be in your current position, are comfortable, and take your name out of consideration by default.

This would pose a problem for Mario because I would think it were fairly obvious to all concerned parties that they all knew a coach with Cristobal's credentials didn't take the Assoc HC job as anything more than a stopgap and the opportunity was probably offered to him as such, as a way to mutually benefit and help Al out a little whilst Mario landed on his feet.

That one article says Golden was "made aware" of the interview, but don't you think with their relationship (Al calling Mario as soon as he found out he was fired and offering support and then soon after a job) that Mario spoke with Al about the situation in depth and made sure that Al gave him his blessing before he left for Tuscaloosa?

Why is this 14 pages of news?

They won the national championship. Why wouldn't you take the interview? Even if you don't want the job you do the interview as a professional courtesy. You turn down an opportunity to interview for a prestigious position you send out a message.

Wow.....and this guy enters after 14 pages to try and prove a flawed point that was debunked 8 pages ago.

I wasn't trying to prove anything. I was just confused as to why you wouldn't want a former player/coach to succeed? You'd legit rather he stayed an Assoc. HC forever? It's not as if the Alabama OL job was going to be opened up against next year just so that Mario could wait a year and make an amicable departure.

The guy's barely coached TE's in his life and people are acting like he was going to be here more than just the one year anyways? What difference does it make? Carroll can go back to TE's and it'll open up a spot on the coaching staff for someone who plans to stay more than 10 months.

Edit: It's not as if Mario has an opportunity to "move up in the company" either. Golden is HC for 123572809572895 years. Coley is young and up and coming. What was he going to do? He wasn't going to coach the defense obviously.

 

[TreOFive]

Why is this 14 pages of news?

They won the national championship. Why wouldn't you take the interview? Even if you don't want the job you do the interview as a professional courtesy.

Professional Courtesy?
And to whom?
How about respecting your current employer who just hired you a few weeks ago?
You have no clue.

You turn down an opportunity to interview for a prestigious position you send out a message.

And what message would he be sending if he is already interviewing for other gigs a few weeks after landing a big gig at your alma-mater?
Seriously, you need to have an adult proofread your stuff before you type because your ethics are flawed.

Professional courtesy to Nick Saban, who requested the interview with you. Interviews go both ways. The employer is interested in your services as an employee. Alabama is the top "company" in this line of work as of today. If you turn down an interview with Alabama you send a message to other employers that you want to be in your current position, are comfortable, and take your name out of consideration by default.

This would pose a problem for Mario because I would think it were fairly obvious to all concerned parties that they all knew a coach with Cristobal's credentials didn't take the Assoc HC job as anything more than a stopgap and the opportunity was probably offered to him as such, as a way to mutually benefit and help Al out a little whilst Mario landed on his feet.

That one article says Golden was "made aware" of the interview, but don't you think with their relationship (Al calling Mario as soon as he found out he was fired and offering support and then soon after a job) that Mario spoke with Al about the situation in depth and made sure that Al gave him his blessing before he left for Tuscaloosa?

Why is this 14 pages of news?

They won the national championship. Why wouldn't you take the interview? Even if you don't want the job you do the interview as a professional courtesy. You turn down an opportunity to interview for a prestigious position you send out a message.

Wow.....and this guy enters after 14 pages to try and prove a flawed point that was debunked 8 pages ago.

I wasn't trying to prove anything. I was just confused as to why you wouldn't want a former player/coach to succeed? You'd legit rather he stayed an Assoc. HC forever? It's not as if the Alabama OL job was going to be opened up against next year just so that Mario could wait a year and make an amicable departure.

The guy's barely coached TE's in his life and people are acting like he was going to be here more than just the one year anyways? What difference does it make? Carroll can go back to TE's and it'll open up a spot on the coaching staff for someone who plans to stay more than 10 months.

Edit: It's not as if Mario has an opportunity to "move up in the company" either. Golden is HC for 123572809572895 years. Coley is young and up and coming. What was he going to do? He wasn't going to coach the defense obviously.

funny how people on here trying to justify a **** headed move by M.C. by playing the old "you dont want an alumn to succeed" BS....If he goes I hope he fails miserably. Enjoy T-Town and the rest of the cluster ***** state called Alabama....


BTW. I am from south Dade and lived in B'ham for many years....**** town and **** state... I dont care how much one try's to paint the picture, despite the nature, good food, and for the most pasrt good poeple. Its still Bama and it AINT Miami.....Good luck feeling at home there MC...no cafe cubano, pan cubano, arepas, or anything else you use to...also enjoy explaining the difference between mexican and cuban to ignorant azzz rednecks

 

[Noah]

Why is this 14 pages of news?

They won the national championship. Why wouldn't you take the interview? Even if you don't want the job you do the interview as a professional courtesy.

Professional Courtesy?
And to whom?
How about respecting your current employer who just hired you a few weeks ago?
You have no clue.

You turn down an opportunity to interview for a prestigious position you send out a message.

And what message would he be sending if he is already interviewing for other gigs a few weeks after landing a big gig at your alma-mater?
Seriously, you need to have an adult proofread your stuff before you type because your ethics are flawed.

Professional courtesy to Nick Saban, who requested the interview with you. Interviews go both ways. The employer is interested in your services as an employee. Alabama is the top "company" in this line of work as of today. If you turn down an interview with Alabama you send a message to other employers that you want to be in your current position, are comfortable, and take your name out of consideration by default.

This would pose a problem for Mario because I would think it were fairly obvious to all concerned parties that they all knew a coach with Cristobal's credentials didn't take the Assoc HC job as anything more than a stopgap and the opportunity was probably offered to him as such, as a way to mutually benefit and help Al out a little whilst Mario landed on his feet.

That one article says Golden was "made aware" of the interview, but don't you think with their relationship (Al calling Mario as soon as he found out he was fired and offering support and then soon after a job) that Mario spoke with Al about the situation in depth and made sure that Al gave him his blessing before he left for Tuscaloosa?

Why is this 14 pages of news?

They won the national championship. Why wouldn't you take the interview? Even if you don't want the job you do the interview as a professional courtesy. You turn down an opportunity to interview for a prestigious position you send out a message.

Wow.....and this guy enters after 14 pages to try and prove a flawed point that was debunked 8 pages ago.

I wasn't trying to prove anything. I was just confused as to why you wouldn't want a former player/coach to succeed? You'd legit rather he stayed an Assoc. HC forever? It's not as if the Alabama OL job was going to be opened up against next year just so that Mario could wait a year and make an amicable departure.

The guy's barely coached TE's in his life and people are acting like he was going to be here more than just the one year anyways? What difference does it make? Carroll can go back to TE's and it'll open up a spot on the coaching staff for someone who plans to stay more than 10 months.

Edit: It's not as if Mario has an opportunity to "move up in the company" either. Golden is HC for 123572809572895 years. Coley is young and up and coming. What was he going to do? He wasn't going to coach the defense obviously.

funny how people on here trying to justify a **** headed move by M.C. by playing the old "you dont want an alumn to succeed" BS....If he goes I hope he fails miserably. Enjoy T-Town and the rest of the cluster ***** state called Alabama....

Obviously because we don't want Alabama to be good but that's just ex-girlfriend esque bitter. Who cares? I don't have to justify what Al Golden apparently gave his blessing on. I don't think Cristobal interviews without direct permission from Golden, and if he went through the proper channels in asking for that permission than I have absolutely no problem with that because that's what MEN do.

You people are probably the same ones who would say it's wrong for all those HS coaches to get on the radio and **** talk Golden but have a problem with Mario apparently having a man-to-man conversation with him about his own personal future, being forthcoming and up front about his intentions, etc.

There's so much conjecture in your all's anger.

 

[TomAce]

If this happens are people more upset that MC is leaving after a few months from his alma materl, losing a quality coach or MC will recruit SoFl on behalf of the Bama brand?

 

[Ethnicsands]

You just don't take a job and then interview for a new one before you've even started to work. That's a bad act, IMO. No excuses. Careers are long. No need for that nonsense.

Moreover he walks out with our reruiting strategy etc. and didnt even give us anything of value from himself. Complete hose**** move. Michael Corleone would not put up with this ****.

 

[The Franchise]

The pay bump sounds suspicious to me. I don't buy it considering he was offered a job in the NFL and turned it down. It could be something Cristobal threw out there as an excuse to justify jumping ship if he does. Still waiting to see what comes of this but sounds like he is interested in the job which moves me from the wait and see position to the **** him position.

Exactly. Considering they were paying Stoutland, a proven OL corch, less that $400K, and we're paying Beanerdict Arnold around $500K, I'd say the "significant pay raise" **** is a way to dupe the gullible masses into giving him a pass for being a scumbag. At the end of the day, even if they're offering him a pay raise, it's still a scumbag move. How long do you wait to start dating if your wife gets mangled by a chimp and winds up looking like Charla Nash? Probably longer than the month our scumbag waited to start looking around.

 

[The Franchise]

You just don't take a job and then interview for a new one before you've even started to work. That's a bad act, IMO. No excuses. Careers are long. No need for that nonsense.

Moreover he walks out with our reruiting strategy etc. and didnt even give us anything of value from himself. Complete hose**** move. Michael Corleone would not put up with this ****.

Exactly. This dude gets it. You just don't start interviewing after a month on the job. There's still black and white and right and wrong no matter how pussified and castrated this world has become.

 

[LA'Cane818]

If this happens are people more upset that MC is leaving after a few months from his alma materl, losing a quality coach or MC will recruit SoFl on behalf of the Bama brand?

Yes

 

[Ethnicsands]

You just don't take a job and then interview for a new one before you've even started to work. That's a bad act, IMO. No excuses. Careers are long. No need for that nonsense.

Moreover he walks out with our reruiting strategy etc. and didnt even give us anything of value from himself. Complete hose**** move. Michael Corleone would not put up with this ****.

Exactly. This dude gets it. You just don't start interviewing after a month on the job. There's still black and white and right and wrong no matter how pussified and castrated this world has become.

Yup. This isn't even close to debatable. If he got offered some totally unexpected opportunity (legit HC job in CFB or coord. job in NFL, not that he'd get such an offer), I could see it. Short of that, do what you signed up for for at least a reasonable period of time before looking around. Mario's like a person who is scouting out their next lay on the night of their own wedding.

At this point, I think Mario's going to make himself toxic. What Athletic Director would want to hire him knowing that he might just bolt in a New York minute before doing anything even slightly useful? His next job needs to be a mid-major job in all likelihood, as he's tarnished at this point. Those AD's need someone to turn the program, not just put in one season.