Do we deserve more than that?Welcome to CIS the home of backhanded quasi compliments
Do we deserve more than that?Welcome to CIS the home of backhanded quasi compliments
Was the 2017 season really nice, except for the ND and Va Tech games? It’s an obsession of mine that might be stupid, but I find that season to still be super overrated by this board. If you take out those 2 games and maybe the Duke game, it’s basically a Randy Shannon/Al Golden season. For God’s sake, even the Bethune-Cookman game in 2017 was a bad game.
I find 2017 to be a meh season that only seems like a good season relative to the **** we’ve endured recently.
If you take out Clemson's wins over Notre Dame and Alabama last year, they really didn't have that good a season. They beat up on a weak ACC, but so what?
^This argument is only slightly less ludicrous than your argument. If you take out the two most memorable games - including a primetime Gameday beatdown vs. an old rival that moved us into playoff position in mid-November - then yes, 2017 was similar to a Shannon/Golden year. Our 73% win percentage would actually have been better than our win % in any Shannon/Golden year, but yes, similar.
I'm starting to think you are not just some pathetic bitter Canes fan, and instead are an equally pathetic fan of another team that is trolling a rival. I don't know.
Was the 2017 season really nice, except for the ND and Va Tech games? It’s an obsession of mine that might be stupid, but I find that season to still be super overrated by this board. If you take out those 2 games and maybe the Duke game, it’s basically a Randy Shannon/Al Golden season. For God’s sake, even the Bethune-Cookman game in 2017 was a bad game.
I find 2017 to be a meh season that only seems like a good season relative to the **** we’ve endured recently.
Adding 2 good games to a Shannon or Golden type season might be enough to make it a meh season. It doesn’t make it a successful season.
You don't really believe that, right? You're just being a troll?
1) 2017 ex-VT and ex-ND was still BETTER than even the best Shannon/Golden season (73% win pct vs 69%)
2) In college football, 2 games represent 17% of the regular season (and more like 20-25% if you take out the cupcakes). 2 good games is not a small part of a season.
3) Those weren't merely good games. Those were great games. In November, with the division on the line, with legitimate playoff implications, primetime game of the week, College Gameday in town, vs. two rivals, both teams ranked, and one in the top 3. Those are the type of games that define a season. The ND game was like Minnesota's game vs Penn St yesterday. No matter what happens from here on out, Minnesota has had a very good year, with the chance for much more.
Nobody is confusing 2017 with 2001. And we limped to the finish line (figuratively and literally, given all of the injuries to key skill players), with the negative momentum carrying over into the offseason and 2018. But that doesn't mean it wasn't a very good year.
That game used to be a typical "trap" game. Even Herbstreit picked Louisville. Too many times in the past we've seen a great win like that at the semenholes, only to not show up the next week. Came out swingin', took a couple of blows, but kept on swingin' (thought you'd like a couple of boxing analogies @k9cane! LOL) and blew them out of The Rock.
I'm hopeful the rest of the season sees continued progress like we've seen the last few weeks.
There were absolutely too many WTF moments on offense even for a novice like myself. Even my wife would ask WTF is he doing? LOL Our solace is that maybe Enos has finally seen the light.Alright!!! That was good
And yeah, our offense went from being as punchless as Joe Palooka, to at least having a punchers chance
I get our Oline has jelled a bit, but in my view it took Enos too long to go to stuff that we were begging for (more spread concepts, shotgun ,etc). That's what's frustrating about this
Now that you mention it, where has Inday been?How do you remember what Slurpers posted after the VT loss - You’ve only been on the board for 3 days???
Oh by the way, have you met my friend...
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I was thinking the same thing. I need to reach out.Now that you mention it, where has Inday been?
Howard lost to FAMU. Butch lost to ECU, twice. Anything is possible. JJ blew a 30+ point lead to Maryland. I hated those ugly games as much as anyone, but you can't deny there is some improvement happening. I want Manny to succeed, and I have been one of his harshest critics. All is forgiven with improvement.
The improvement on the OL and tackling have been well covered the past two weeks, but like you said, we've equally had a huge improvement in cutting out penalties.we did more than score against poor defenses
we blocked and protected against outstanding DL talent and production in fsu and pitt
we also stopped a lot of OL penalties. Last two games we've looked like the disciplined well coached OL.
i even saw some progress on ST in the vt game iirc. we were getting in between coverage and our PR but not blocking in the back. we were raising our arms so as to not get called like we did earlier in the year and consequently we're getting some good PR yardage lately.
look, i don't know if this is fool's gold or a mirage but give credit: coaches and players have been doing better.
one sign of a mature mentally strong team is that they execute regardless of the competition. we won't be up all the time but that's when the training and habits of blocking, tackling etc. have to kick in so that we don't play down to an FIU.
Let's see.
that wouldn't be a bad year, in my view both can be true -- the first half of the season was a dumpster fire. The second half, one that gives us hope and something that can be viewed as positive.
Just look at the losses, close to Florida, then 4th and 17 to UNC, losses at home to Vatech and GT(inexcusable) and the thing is with an average kicker, one or two of those are wins.
So close, yet so far.
Just glad there are signs of hope
Depends on how you want to look at it. Dumpster fire is Diaz taking over a 10 win team and we get off to the start we did. Weeding out weakness is taking a 7 win team and finishing on a 6 game win streak going into 2020.
It takes time for a message to sink in. USMC boot camp is 13 weeks. I remember that for the 1st 5 weeks, I "fought the program." I was still thinking too much and acting like an individual, and was getting smoked pretty much every day. Finally around week 6 it all clicked. I stopped thinking and did what I was told, when I was told. The last 7 weeks were easy compared to the 1st 6. When you have young kids with bad habits who don't listen, it can take some time for the message to get though their skulls.
The last 3 wins have been lucky. We’ve actually been outgained in total these 3 games.
And, even before the last 3 games, the UVA win was lucky.
I’d be willing to bet that we would have lost the Pitt and UVA games according to Connely’s model 70-80% of the time. We probably would lose the Louisville game about 50% of the time. Even FSU we’d probably lose 25%ish of the time.
Where can you find Connely’s game by game models? I remember slurpers posting it after the Va Tech loss. Of course, they didn’t post the model after the UVA or Pitt games, because that wouldn’t fit their agenda.
And PS nothing worse than 11-1 against this scedule is a “solid” season.