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WestEndzone said:
CaneSince4Ever said:
The trick is to make it simple for the kids, but complex for the opponent.
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This.
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So True. That's exactly what the Oregon's, Auburn's and Leach do. They really only run few different plays. They just run them out of varying formations. Which makes something that is fairly simple look overly complex. Add in doing it at a fast pace and your defense has no time to adjust or sub. So you're basically stuck in the same defensive formation with the same players. By the time their in the redzone, the hardest part of the filed to execute as an offense, it doesn't even matter what play is called or how well you execute because the defense is beyond gassed at that point.
 
chicanego said:
brock said:
HurricaneOmeezy said:
Al Golden and his **** buddy are ****ing pathetic pieces of ****s
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Yeah golden and donofrio are definitely not the best but how far can you go as a team if some players are not giving their all every play? Definitely some blame to be had on some players
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Guess what, Broke, that's on the coaches too.

Great coaches are also great motivators. Great coaches bring the very best out of their players. There's a reason you don't hear former players from schools like Ohio State and Alabama talking about "lost mojo." Meyer and Saban coach at an elite level and their players aren't complacent due to the high standards they have set for their programs.

It's all a product of a pathetic University administration [and BOT] that has hired pathetic coaches that have stripped the UM program of any sort of expectations. End of story.
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#FIRETHEBOT
 
canecountry3 said:
"### Asked who’s to blame for the underachieving and 6-7 record last season, he said 70 percent is on the players and 30 percent on the coaches.

“Players have to want to be great,” he said. “And last year, there were a few guys who wanted to be great, but not everyone gave their all every play.”

He said some players had to be cajoled simply “to play harder.” That lack of effort puzzled and angered some players who were giving their all and caused some friction among players, he said.

### The player said another problem is that some players didn’t study the playbook enough to learn D’Onofrio’s complex defense, which is patterned in some ways after the Seattle Seahawks system.

“It’s an NFL defense, a difficult system, and some college kids aren’t ready for it and don’t put in the time to learn it,” the player said. “It needs to be like a job, and some of the guys here don’t treat it like that. I don’t think he necessarily needs to simplify it. Some of the players just need to make it a priority to learn it and do it right.”

But he also acknowledged that D’Onofrio’s system, which he had no issue with, is simply “too much to learn for some kids. I’ve seen playbooks from other schools and ours is a lot more complicated and longer.”

### So what’s the issue as far as coaching, beyond that?

“Some of the players wish coach D’Onofrio would let them play more instinctively and attacking more, and play more man coverage. Against Florida State, we were attacking and playing a lot of man coverage in the first half. Then we got conservative and Jameis Winston picked us apart. Players want to play more man.”

### He said the other issue with D’Onofrio is that “guys are afraid of him because he can be insulting. Some players wanted to be treated more respectfully.

“Coach D’Onofrio doesn’t like when you speak up [with suggestions or second-guessing]. After the Virginia game, Anthony Chickillo asked why we ran a three-man line on fourth and goal at the two, and coach D’Onofrio snapped.”

In defense of D’Onofrio (who is a friendly, engaging fellow off the field), a lot of coaches are very tough on their players and D’Onofrio always praises them publicly.

### The player said UM players don’t have an issue with the hybrid 4-3/3-4 scheme or where they’re asked to line up and praised D’Onofrio for being “passionate and detailed. He would be a great NFL coach.”

### What about Al Golden?

“A great guy,” the player said. “He’s calm, cool and composed. But he comes across as a salesman. I wish he would be more open with us.” He said even though Golden says players can come to him about anything, “some players are intimidated by him.”

Does Golden motivate the team well enough? “He ignites us emotionally at practice. But after the Florida State game, we lost a lot of emotion. We kind of lost our mojo.”

The player blames everyone for that. He said he doesn’t have any issue with Golden’s strategic acumen or game-day decisions.

### He said the young players cannot feel entitlement and must understand they need to work to be great, which he believes some --- but not all --- do. As an example, he mentioned Chad Thomas can be “****y” but also praised his ability."

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Why any coach would try an implement a tough longer playbook when you have pure athletes is beyond me!!! UM is not some directional school with easy courses. All on the coach in my opinion. Leaders need to know how to move their people, especially people they hire!!! excuses, excuses, excuses.
 
brock said:
King Slayer said:
brock said:
HurricaneOmeezy said:
Al Golden and his **** buddy are ****ing pathetic pieces of ****s
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Yeah golden and donofrio are definitely not the best but how far can you go as a team if some players are not giving their all every play? Definitely some blame to be had on some players
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Isn't part of coaching? does he not recruit these players? I know you are trying to hang onto your DB coach job Paul but it is not working.
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Wtf lol I'm a college student, what are you talking about? Yes I agree we know the team quit after fsu loss but that's where golden again failed last season. He is the leader of the team and he was supposed to have them motivated no matter what...
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Quit after the FSU loss??? Huh? Did you not see this team get smoked by an under-manned, brand new QB, and new coaching staffed UL team on National TV in game 1? Did you not see Neb throw 5x and run 70x against us and put 41 on our "13th ranked total defense?" Did you not see GT run the same triple option against us over and over and over again? This happened Well before that FSU game. I'm tired of ppl making excuses about that FSU game....Dem Canes were off to horrible start last year.
 
Rellyrell said:
brock said:
King Slayer said:
brock said:
HurricaneOmeezy said:
Al Golden and his **** buddy are ****ing pathetic pieces of ****s
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Yeah golden and donofrio are definitely not the best but how far can you go as a team if some players are not giving their all every play? Definitely some blame to be had on some players
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Isn't part of coaching? does he not recruit these players? I know you are trying to hang onto your DB coach job Paul but it is not working.
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Wtf lol I'm a college student, what are you talking about? Yes I agree we know the team quit after fsu loss but that's where golden again failed last season. He is the leader of the team and he was supposed to have them motivated no matter what...
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Quit after the FSU loss??? Huh? Did you not see this team get smoked by an under-manned, brand new QB, and new coaching staffed UL team on National TV in game 1? Did you not see Neb throw 5x and run 70x against us and put 41 on our "13th ranked total defense?" Did you not see GT run the same triple option against us over and over and over again? This happened Well before that FSU game. I'm tired of ppl making excuses about that FSU game....Dem Canes were off to horrible start last year.
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Not to mention we seem to always struggle with the Virginia's and Pittsburghs of the world. so anyone assuming that we would beat those teams if we beat FSU heaven't been watching canes games the past 4 years.
 
nycane said:
Butch Davis would never have to worry about motivation. Kids were scared to death of him.
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This is just not true. No one was afraid of Butch. What they were afraid of was hearing, "whoooooooooop, whoooooooooop, whoooooooop, whoooooooop" when they got into the locker room and being called out by one of the team leaders and getting their *** kicked in the locker room. This is one of the things our team today lacks. Team leaders that will whoop someones *** for dogging it in the game and in practice. I liked DJ, DP, and our seniors, but not one of them was a true leader and to be honest I don't know if we have one on our team right now. Great teams don't need coaches to motivate and great players don't need coaches to motivate them, plain and simple. Wanting to be great comes from within no matter the scheme, how complex, or anything else.
 
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Fawk_U Haters said:
nycane said:
Butch Davis would never have to worry about motivation. Kids were scared to death of him.
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This is just not true. No one was afraid of Butch. What they were afraid of was hearing, "whoooooooooop, whoooooooooop, whoooooooop, whoooooooop" when they got into the locker room and being called out by one of the team leaders and getting their *** kicked in the locker room. This is one of the things our team today lacks. Team leaders that will whoop someones *** for dogging it in the game and in practice. I liked DJ, DP, and our seniors, but not one of them was a true leader and to be honest I don't know if we have one on our team right now. Great teams don't need coaches to motivate and great players don't need coaches to motivate them, plain and simple. Wanting to be great comes from within no matter the scheme, how complex, or anything else.
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That's the biggest load of bull****.

Who do you think set that tone? Who do you think recruited those types of players. Everything begins and ends with the head coach. He sets the program's path, he set the tone, he set the expectations, he set what was and was not acceptable.

When you have an excuse making ****** as a head coach you get articles like this where excuses are made, or you get Stephen Morris saying "you win some you lose some" or you have Hurlie Brown feel the need to claim that a 9 win season is a great season at Miami now.

When you have a coach that will not accept losing, then you don't have that kind of ******ry going on because the ******* head coach will not have any of it.

It starts and ends with the head coach regardless of what an anonymous player says or any golden **** sucker says.
 
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Dingaan1828 said:
Any player that looks for someone else to provide motivation should go do something else. Competitive sports are not for them.
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The players aren't "looking" for someone to motivate them. They're merely reacting to the environment that they're in.

Why even have a HC if he's not responsible for motivating his charges and establishing a winning culture?

Bill Parcells said the HC's number one job is motivating his team and pushing the right buttons.
 
Fawk_U Haters said:
nycane said:
Butch Davis would never have to worry about motivation. Kids were scared to death of him.
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This is just not true. No one was afraid of Butch. What they were afraid of was hearing, "whoooooooooop, whoooooooooop, whoooooooop, whoooooooop" when they got into the locker room and being called out by one of the team leaders and getting their *** kicked in the locker room. This is one of the things our team today lacks. Team leaders that will whoop someones *** for dogging it in the game and in practice. I liked DJ, DP, and our seniors, but not one of them was a true leader and to be honest I don't know if we have one on our team right now. Great teams don't need coaches to motivate and great players don't need coaches to motivate them, plain and simple. Wanting to be great comes from within no matter the scheme, how complex, or anything else.
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it was both. under golden u would never have the whoooooop. U think they didnt fear butch? they feared and respected their coaches. Talk to kids about Don Solinger. that guy had no people skills at all.
 
LatinCane said:
This is year five of the Golden Era. Year two post

Actually, he is a below average coach. An AVERAGE coach would be 9-4 every year at worst with the talent that this team has had consistently year in and year out. A below average coach would put up the record that he has, year in and year out.

Even in our "least" talented years, we were still more talented than UVA, GT and the likes....
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Gonna get ugly if we get creamed by Nebraska. I hope SOME of those changes Golden alluded to in the spring have actually happened. All I know is we don't have Paul Dee anymore to meet him at the locker room door after the game is over. :noidea:
 
NVA CANE said:
Fawk_U Haters said:
nycane said:
Butch Davis would never have to worry about motivation. Kids were scared to death of him.
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This is just not true. No one was afraid of Butch. What they were afraid of was hearing, "whoooooooooop, whoooooooooop, whoooooooop, whoooooooop" when they got into the locker room and being called out by one of the team leaders and getting their *** kicked in the locker room. This is one of the things our team today lacks. Team leaders that will whoop someones *** for dogging it in the game and in practice. I liked DJ, DP, and our seniors, but not one of them was a true leader and to be honest I don't know if we have one on our team right now. Great teams don't need coaches to motivate and great players don't need coaches to motivate them, plain and simple. Wanting to be great comes from within no matter the scheme, how complex, or anything else.
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That's the biggest load of bull****.

Who do you think set that tone? Who do you think recruited those types of players. Everything begins and ends with the head coach. He sets the program's path, he set the tone, he set the expectations, he set what was and was not acceptable.

When you have an excuse making ****** as a head coach you get articles like this where excuses are made, or you get Stephen Morris saying "you win some you lose some" or you have Hurlie Brown feel the need to claim that a 9 win season is a great season at Miami now.

When you have a coach that will not accept losing, then you don't have that kind of ******ry going on because the ****ing head coach will not have any of it.

It starts and ends with the head coach regardless of what an anonymous player says or any golden **** sucker says.
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Hire a mediocre coach, you get mediocre results from top to bottom. You look at the history of any big time corporations, and if they failed, they failed b/c of who ran the company, period. Every team needs a good no. 1 and no. 2 guy, just like every corporation needs a good CEO and CFO. Unfortunately for the last several years, Miami has not had a good no. 1 or no. 2. leading us.

A team will take on the personality of their coach, and our history shows that. Golden says building blocks and winning 8 games in a season is great, well guess what? Our team, no matter how talented they are, will feel the same way. I don't understand why some of these porsters don't understand this; coaching is everything in sports. Plain and simple, we don't have a good coach. His track record speaks for itself. There is no conincidence that he's only won one game against a ranked opponent to begin and finish the season.
 
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So, has Al and Dorito been able to get the NCAA to change how scoring works for us? Effort and participation scoring scale, although it now seems we would be getting low scores for effort. Remember, they are all champions and we should be looking forward to another championship banner at Hecht ... even though the other 120 teams will put an asterisk next to our 6-7 record.
 
the storm said:
Gonna get ugly if we get creamed by Nebraska. I hope SOME of those changes Golden alluded to in the spring have actually happened. All I know is we don't have Paul Dee anymore to meet him at the locker room door after the game is over. :noidea:
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I don't. No matter what changes he makes, Golden has already proven beyond a doubt that he is not capable of taking our team to where we want. Him making changes that slightly improve the team and delay his firing is the absolute last thing on earth that any cane fan should want.
 
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