A quote about Bubba from B Jackson (and one about Brevin)

[JackOAT]

So far, reasons to come back:

1) To get a degree - UM allows its players who declare early to come back and finish.
2) To get better and make waaay more money - you can get better in the NFL and get paid for it or, apparently according to the rest of the meatheads on the board you can turn yourself into a top 2 round player in your final year after an entire career of being a fringe NFL player.

which happens all the time. Look at the plethora of seniors we've had that have gone in the top 3 rounds.

 

[ssvir]

So far, reasons to come back:

1) To get a degree - UM allows its players who declare early to come back and finish.
2) To get better and make waaay more money - you can get better in the NFL and get paid for it or, apparently according to the rest of the meatheads on the board you can turn yourself into a top 2 round player in your final year after an entire career of being a fringe NFL player.

which happens all the time. Look at the plethora of seniors we've had that have gone in the top 3 rounds.

How about you look at the at the plethora of guys that left early and never made a practice squad let alone had a cup of coffee in the NFL and now have no money from football and no degree. According to you, they can just go back and get their degree but ask Joe Yearby if he can afford to pay for rent, food, car, etc while not working for 12-18 months while he finishes getting his degree.

 

[No_Fly_Zone]

apparently according to the rest of the meatheads on the board you can turn yourself into a top 2 round player in your final year after an entire career of being a fringe NFL player.

Joe Burrow and his 4 year, $36.2 million guaranteed contract says hello.

 

[theibisrules]

sad state of affairs

 

[canes732]

Joe Burrow and his 4 year, $36.2 million guaranteed contract says hello.

Plenty of guys have done it. I would say now more dummies leave for the league early than coming back and playing better and raising their stock their senior year. I believe 2019 draft had the most underclassmen declare esrly

 

[P-Tizzle]

If we have learned anything the last four years it’s, for some reason, our draft eligible players leave. Therefore, Brevin, Bubba, King, Cam, Harley, Blades, Phillips, and Roche are gone. Should they stay? Of course. Only Phillips, Roche, and Brevin will be drafted. The rest will be signed as free agents. None of them will make an impact in the NFL next year, and 75% will be cut and selling their Citrus Bowl ring on EBay by next September.

 

[sdaly12]

People are going to compare Brevin to Evan Engram due to the measurable's. But Evan was a much much much better prospect coming out of college. He got drafted late in the first and to this point has been a disappointment.

• Evan Engram caught for 950 yards his last year in college. Brevin has slightly over 1,000 total yards in 3 seasons!
• Engram ran a 4.42 40 in the combine. Idk what Brevin runs but doubt it's that good.
• Engram played 10+ games each year after his Freshmen year. Brevin is about to have a career low in games played after his junior year.

Ain't nobody giving Brevin a 1st round grade. 2nd round grade seems like an insane stretch to me as well...sh*t maybe even 3rd round grade is a stretch. Dude would be absolutely nuts to declare.

100% correct, but these guys start listening to the Drew Rosenhauses of the world rather than what an NFL grade system.
also look at our recent flameouts of guys going early Garvin sleepwalked thru the year 7th round. joe jackson first day projected 5th round pick.someone has to tell these guys its the second contract and not he first contract that matters. hopefully this is where Ed Reed can be an influence on these guys future

 

[apfenny3]

So far, reasons to come back:

1) To get a degree - UM allows its players who declare early to come back and finish.
2) To get better and make waaay more money - you can get better in the NFL and get paid for it or, apparently according to the rest of the meatheads on the board you can turn yourself into a top 2 round player in your final year after an entire career of being a fringe NFL player.

which happens all the time. Look at the plethora of seniors we've had that have gone in the top 3 rounds.

If you’re a late round or borderline draftable talent and won’t improve your draft positioning with another season you’re still better off returning. Another year of conditioning and 12+ games experience is going to better your chances of actually sticking to a roster. Statistically speaking the average career is about 3 seasons which means no second contract, so doing everything to see the life of the first one is vital

 

[Samson Doyo]

Doyo you're in violation of CIS standards. You come on here "making sense" which is clearly a "no=no".

I felt dirty typing it. Won't happen again.

Go Canes!

 

[BeachCanes]

Why would any team pick Bolden in the first 4 rounds? He doesn't have above average coverage nor run defense skills.

 

[The Franchise]

Joe Burrow and his 4 year, $36.2 million guaranteed contract says hello.

So does 3 other LSU 1st rounders who were projected as mid to late rounders before last season.

 

[NE Canes]

Correct which is great, but this just covers tuition and they’ll no longer get housing, meals, monthly stipend. For a guy who “makes it” in the league it doesn’t matter but can be daunting for a guy who maybe bounces around on p squad or doesn’t make it at all like many of our recent underclassmen that bet on themselves and left early

Practice squad guys can make up to 150K for just the season. I think they will be fine.

 

[OriginalCanesCanesCanes]

Practice squad guys can make up to 150K for just the season. I think they will be fine.

Seriously? Making “up to” $150,000 for a season or two and then out of the league is fine?

That is a real low bar there.

 

[NE Canes]

Seriously? Making “up to” $150,000 for a season or two and then out of the league is fine?

That is a real low bar there.

As opposed to what. Playing another year of college - then going to practice squad – then out of the league.

Why bother playing the extra year in college if you are only going to a practice squad and then out of the league. At least going to the NFL a player makes money, gets professional training which helps more than staying in college and improves his chances of being picked up.

If nothing else, he makes contacts and relationships he would never make in college that would help him even more if he intends to stay in or around the game. Why wait.

If a player is not going to improve his draft status to the first or second round (maybe third) then there is no real reason to stay. The minimal amount of difference from improving from the 5th round to the 4th does not warrant staying in college.

 

[Go Canes!!]

There are certain players who are the same guy if they leave after their junior or senior year.

The perfect. example this year is Camron Harris. And there’s other guys who have no business we do like Bandy and Streeter.

Finding gotcha examples of anyone is crazy talk. Each player is an individual as is their situation

 

[OriginalCanesCanesCanes]

As opposed to what. Playing another year of college - then going to practice squad – then out of the league.

Why bother playing the extra year in college if you are only going to a practice squad and then out of the league. At least going to the NFL a player makes money, gets professional training which helps more than staying in college and improves his chances of being picked up.

If nothing else, he makes contacts and relationships he would never make in college that would help him even more if he intends to stay in or around the game. Why wait.

If a player is not going to improve his draft status to the first or second round (maybe third) then there is no real reason to stay. The minimal amount of difference from improving from the 5th round to the 4th does not warrant staying in college.

Ideally, the extra year would give a player the opportunity to raise his draft stock, while getting him closer to a degree which will last way after any short-term league money.

The operative word being “ideally”

If one knows for certain their draft stock will not be helped, or damaged, by staying, then they should go.

But knowing things for certain is a tricky business and rarely ever pans out.

The bottom line is this: Only a minority of drafted college players each year ever make enough money in the NFL to last them even past five years. They have a whole lifetime to live after that.

Those are just facts.

What happens to most of those guys after the short stint in the NFL? Assuming they even played in the NFL. Would an extra year in college, and a degree, or even closer to a getting a degree, have helped them?

Something to think about.

 

[The Franchise]

Seriously? Making “up to” $150,000 for a season or two and then out of the league is fine?

That is a real low bar there.

It's the new "get your money" mentality. It used to be guys would stay in school unless they were 1st or 2nd rounders. Now, they got dopes in their ears telling them to go get their practice squad pittance.

 

[NE Canes]

Ideally, the extra year would give a player the opportunity to raise his draft stock, while getting him closer to a degree which will last way after any short-term league money.

The operative word being “ideally”

If one knows for certain their draft stock will not be helped, or damaged, by staying, then they should go.

But knowing things for certain is a tricky business and rarely ever pans out.

The bottom line is this: Only a minority of drafted college players each year ever make enough money in the NFL to last them even past five years. They have a whole lifetime to live after that.

Those are just facts.

What happens to most of those guys after the short stint in the NFL? Assuming they even played in the NFL. Would an extra year in college, and a degree, or even closer to a getting a degree, have helped them?

Something to think about.

Well, you are right.

Every situation is different. There is no one answer for every player. Almost every player is faces the same slim odds and even if they do make it they may only be in the league for a few years. Odds are not in their favor. But they are chasing their own dreams so more power to them.

I only agrue that staying is not the only answer.

Some here seem to think staying another year makes you a first round pick and leaving means you are poor and can't afford your next meal. Players can do well for themselves by leaving early and can be on a practice squad for several years even if they never make it. Staying one more year is not always going to help.

150K for 17 weeks is not bad and they have the rest of the year to do what they want...like work on a degree or start the coaching path. I just say players should do what they think gives them the best opportunity.

 

[NE Canes]

It's the new "get your money" mentality. It used to be guys would stay in school unless they were 1st or 2nd rounders. Now, they got dopes in their ears telling them to go get their practice squad pittance.

I don't think it is always about bad advice. And just to be clear it can be up to 150K for 17 weeks...some team may only pay you 100K.

If you are a Jr thinking about leaving you have to factor everything. What do you think your draft status will be after another year vs. being a late round pick and maybe undrafted. What are your options after being undrafted.

If a player thinks staying is not going to help you much as a late pick then why stay? We can be critical of these agents, etc., but the advice is real. Do you want to stay vs. this is your your path...as difficult as it may be.

 

[OriginalCanesCanesCanes]

It's the new "get your money" mentality. It used to be guys would stay in school unless they were 1st or 2nd rounders. Now, they got dopes in their ears telling them to go get their practice squad pittance.

You're right. I think a lot of it is bad advice from agents and hanger-ons, leeches, some family, etc.

People should always make decisions that are in their best interests, but if we retrospectively looked at all our early entrants over the last 15 years, I can only think of Olivier Vernon and Lamar Miller as guys who really hit it. The rest are some really sad stories.

I mean a practice squad salary for one season with no degree is not a recipe for further career success, look at the trajectory of most potential college to NFL players.