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12-Team College Football Playoff?

theribdoctor

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Here is what it would have looked like for this past season:

12 team playoff
1 - Bama (SEC Champ) 11-0
2 - Clemson (ACC Champ) 10-1
3 - OSU (Big 10 Champ) 6-0
4 - Oklahoma (Big 12 Champ) 8-2

5 - Notre Dame (at large) 10-1 v 12 - USC (Pac 12 Champ) 5-1
6 - Texas A&M (at large) 8-1 v 11 - Indiana (at large) 6-1
7 - Florida (at large) 8-3 v 10 - ISU (at large) 8-3
8 - Cincy (AAC Champ) 9-0 v 9 - UGA (at large) 7-2

8 team playoff (5 P5 Champs, 1 G5 Champ, 2 at large)
1 - Bama v 8 - Texas A&M
2 - Clemson v 7 - Notre Dame
3 - OSU v 6 - USC
4 - Oklahoma v 5 - Cincy

Several shitty games in the opening round for the 12 team. For the 8 team, yes Bama still wins this year just because they were by far the best team but its not going to be like that every year.
I still see Baga winning that.

ND would beat USC
TAMU beats Indiana
UiF would beat ISU
UGA Beats Cincy

Baga beats UGA
Clemson and TAMU would be a good game. ?
OSU beats UiF
OK and UGA also a pickem
 

LoungeLord

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I think it all depends how they do it. The only 3 loss team would probably be the Pac12 champ. I'm just sick of seeing the same teams in the playoff every year.
The reason you are seeing the same teams is because they are the best teams. You really want to see crappier teams in the playoffs? We should get in if we are good enough, not because they let the rabble in.
 

TheEye

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Not a dig at you but that is a horrible idea. Taking the best sport and the best time of year and shortening it for anyone outside the top 12! College Football Season goes by too fast as it is, don't speed it up!
What about shortening the scheduled season and then if a school does not qualify, they play an additional 3 post season bowl games. That way you don't get fewer games.
 

Tad Footeball

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Like I said, I'll always be a proponent of the 8 team model but I'm also fine with this. It eliminates my concern about the SEC getting more than 1 bye AND sticks it to Notre Dame. Just pleeeeease never expand it beyond 12 teams.

 

Usafcane88

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The reason you are seeing the same teams is because they are the best teams. You really want to see crappier teams in the playoffs? We should get in if we are good enough, not because they let the rabble in.
I think more teams making the playoff will spread out the elite 5* more. Over time more playoff teams will equal more parity.
 

Midlo Cane Fan

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Like I said, I'll always be a proponent of the 8 team model but I'm also fine with this. It eliminates my concern about the SEC getting more than 1 bye AND sticks it to Notre Dame. Just pleeeeease never expand it beyond 12 teams.

I posted this earlier:

So if Notre Dame is 12-0 and ranked #1, and they have to play a 1st round game because they're not a conference champ, they're going to be SCREAMING to join the ACC in football.
 

Miami[]_[]Smoke

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It's fair and equitable because a conference championship is an objective accomplishment. You don't have a bunch of dipsh!tes in a room debating margin-of-victory and strength-of-schedule.

I'm not sure why people are being so obtuse on this issue, but the NCAA Tournament is not the 68 best teams. It is a combination of conference champs (and often-times, the conference champ gets hot in the post-season and is not necessarily the "best" team in the conference) and the best at-large teams.

This is not some sort of discussion of whether the Pac 12 champ is one of the 16 best teams in the country each year. The Pac 12 is a goddamn Power 5 conference. Some years, the Pac 12 champ may be Top 5, some years the Pac 12 champ may be Top 25, but the Pac 12 is still Power Five. Doesn't matter.
If Conference championships are objective, then so are w-l records, but anyone with a brain knows that records with the same number of wins and losses arent all the same. And if you want to go with conference championships are objective, then g5 champs are just as valid. It’s the p5 vs g5 that was subjectively labeled based on their history and their ability to sell tv deals. And if you want to take out sos and margin of victory and the eye test, then everyone might as well be ranked by their record. In that case, we were tied with 40 other teams last year as the 4th best team in the Country. What a recruiting pitch…
 

Miami[]_[]Smoke

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Here is what it would have looked like for this past season:

12 team playoff
1 - Bama (SEC Champ) 11-0
2 - Clemson (ACC Champ) 10-1
3 - OSU (Big 10 Champ) 6-0
4 - Oklahoma (Big 12 Champ) 8-2

5 - Notre Dame (at large) 10-1 v 12 - USC (Pac 12 Champ) 5-1
6 - Texas A&M (at large) 8-1 v 11 - Indiana (at large) 6-1
7 - Florida (at large) 8-3 v 10 - ISU (at large) 8-3
8 - Cincy (AAC Champ) 9-0 v 9 - UGA (at large) 7-2

8 team playoff (5 P5 Champs, 1 G5 Champ, 2 at large)
1 - Bama v 8 - Texas A&M
2 - Clemson v 7 - Notre Dame
3 - OSU v 6 - USC
4 - Oklahoma v 5 - Cincy

Several shitty games in the opening round for the 12 team. For the 8 team, yes Bama still wins this year just because they were by far the best team but its not going to be like that every year.
Yeah some years Clemson will win it or osu. And Oregon was the pac 12 champ last year
 

CaneThang2020

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So 1 thru 4 get byes
5 thru 12 play each other with the high seed having home field.
Top 4 seeds would have 3 games max to win it all
Lower seeds would need the extra game, so 4.

Thats a lot of games.

My question is ---How many regular season games will we have knowing that you could potentially have 4 postseason games.

As a fan I love it but will the players?
Good training for those aspiring to be NFL players. I do think the regular season should be capped at 10 games in this format, 2 OOC and 8 conference games for all. Then of course the Conference Championship games. That's max 15 games if a low seed wins it all. CFP Champ now plays 15 to win it all.....no increase in games played. Win-Win for college football, players and fans because the opt outs will stop in the top games.
 

Tad Footeball

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Apparently the latest 12 team proposal would give 4 byes to the highest ranked conference winners so at least we'd avoid the SEC getting two of them. I still like 8 as the overall number better but the competitive disadvantage of a conference receiving more than one bye AND getting to play weaker seeds in Round 2 was a big worry that apparently won't happen.
 

OriginalCanesCanesCanes

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Apparently the latest 12 team proposal would give 4 byes to the highest ranked conference winners so at least we'd avoid the SEC getting two of them. I still like 8 as the overall number better but the competitive disadvantage of a conference receiving more than one bye AND getting to play weaker seeds in Round 2 was a big worry that apparently won't happen.

If it happens like this (12 team scenario), I’m just going to look at the SEC reaction, and especially Alabama. Assuming the SEC reactions are all the same, I’ll be happy if they are disgruntled.

Then I will know it’s something that will at least have some leveling of the playing field.
 

SayWhat

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existing lower bowls would be ;ocations for early playoff rounds. Helps everyone!

It's good for those bowls if the money is there.

Will they even sell out though? It's a big ask to have fan bases travel for two games, but three and possibly four?

I'm in favor of 8 for sure, but 12, maybe. The top four getting to sit out, rest up, and get healthy while their upcoming oppements smack the **** out of themselves trying to move on.

That would certainly make getting a top 4 spot a priority. The 12 team idea largely makes sense as put forth in the article though.
 
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