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@Calinative, is that elite???
I do find it absolutely hilarious that you use Iowa as the evidence for Mario not doing a good job developing Olineman, when Iowa does a GREAT job lol. That logic makes no sense just on its face. If you were going to use a comparison to say Mario isn't good, then maybe you should compare it to a program that legit has been bad? lol. I'd guess you wont cause the results would Mario is better than the bad programs - probably because Mario IS a good OL developer lol. Funny how that works!
Further Mario became Oregons HC in 2018 so 8 years. So in your example Scherff and Blythe are irrelevant. So between 2018 and now Iowa has Two 1sts, one 2nd, and two 7ths. Mario has one 1st, one 2nd (I guess yall would like to give no credit for JPJ?), two 5ths, one 7th, and then we will see what happens going forward, but we can expect another 1st out of Mauigoa at the least. Wow What a difference! lmao.
Oh and Ferentz has been Iowas ******* HC since 1999 lol. So mario was at Bama as Oline coach - gets no credit for any of that of course, then goes to Oregon and then becomes HC for 4 years then is now entering yr 4 in Miami. Such a long time to truly develop "your guys", wouldn't you say... Yeah you really have the full picture on how good a guy is by comparing him Entering year 4 for us vs going into year 27 for Iowas HC lol.
Lol, now you're just embarrassing yourself.
You have absolutely ZERO defense for the fact that if a guy has three 3-yr starters after 9 years as a HC you dont credit him more for development than getting three 1 yr transfers over 9 years. Hmm which do I think is better having 9 years worth of 1st round OT starting that is only 3 players, or three players who only start 1 season? ... And I suspect thats why you didn't actually make a valid response even though you know **** well you likely read it and it made perfect sense lol.
Iowa came to mind as a developmental program. Not exactly known for their high powered offenses. But let’s try another team:
Wisconsin
2025
Jack Nelson 5star 7th round
2024
Tanor bortolini 3star 4th round
2023
Joe tippmann 4star 2nd round
2022
Logan Bruss 3star 2nd round
2021
Cole Van Lanen 4star 6th round
2020
Tyler biadasz 3star 4th round
2019
David Edward’s 3star 5th round
Michael dieter 2star 3rd round
2017
Ryan ramczym unranked 1st round
Again, more with less. Developing.
You just got owned. Again. It’s so embarrassing for you, trying to babble your way through it like you usually do, but I’m going to remind you of what your definition of elite is all over this board…
I mean until it bores me.
@CANESCANES and @Rellyrell thanks for your invaluable and supportive roles here.
I feel your pain. He’s absolutely relentless, wrong or wronger, and the wronger he is the worse it is for board bandwidth. Here feel free to use this as a reminder when Cali goes full Cali on the board.
Rivers should have gone higher. Francis will be a top 10 pick and bell will go high too.
8-4
You too???
Rivers went where he went. There’s no asterisk for should have gone higher when we read the draft results round by round.
Francis is a 5 star who will go in round 1. What happened to the other 5 star, Samson what’s his name???
Bell - is a lumbering giant without the foot movement for speed rushers on the outside and doesn’t belong on the inside but we’ll see how he does this year.
Back to the heart of the matter - this…
…is not elite OL development over the last 10 years.
Why'd you have to go and @ me for this.
@Memnon already explained this I cant go over it 100 times on here about conference. If you right now move OSU to a ****** conference they still cook and carry that particular conference
The conference wouldn’t matter as much if we were dominant. It would probably help us but yeah, if one of those top schools moved to the ACC, they still dominate in recruiting.
Why'd you have to go and @ me for this.
Why are people mad or ****ed when we miss recruits and in the same breathe say we aint won **** in 20 years. How in the blue **** are we in the top 10 in recruiting with that known.
Pick a side!!!!
Pick a side!!!!
LT and James Williams were the #1 players in dade/broward, both top15 consensus players in the country. Tracy howard #1 cb in the country same year as duke thats 2012, there is alot more too from 2010 to now.
There are also top sfla players on our team right now, our fanbase gets amnesia every time we miss on a top guy here but it’s really not near as bad as people think especially considering what we have become. Its just when they get here they are overrated and/or we did a ****** job developing them and a culture around them
What did we accomplish last season, my brotha? Honestly ask urself what did we really do? 10 wins? OK…did that 10 wins lead us to an ACC Title Game like under Mark Richt? Did it lead us to a CFP birth? Did it lead us to a bowl win? Did it lead us to having multiple first round prospects? Did it lead us to sending a plethora of guys w/in the 1st 3 rounds?
Besides Cam going #1, what was so different about this yr’s draft than let’s say:
2017 or 2015? **** even Diaz sent two 1st Rd picks to the NFL; so what did we really accomplish last yr? If u can’t answer that, my brotha, then u’ll get ur answer on the negative recruiting coming our way. We need to change a lot of narratives, & Mario needs to do that ASAP.
A place where dreams go to to die? In the past 10 years, only 6 schools have a won a Natty. In those years, every other school’s dreams died.
Recruits read this, especially your posts, being so dramatic will only emphasize any negative thoughts.
GT was a disaster. But last year was a lost opportunity, not a disaster.
The Canes are trending. We won’t win every recruiting battle and there will be 1 National Champion next year. If that team is not Miami, it doesn’t mean Miami is a place where dreams go to die.
Eh TrumpyCane gets your point but there are a lot of things going into getting drafted, all we should care about is how the line performs at Miami which outside his 1st year has been great. The NFL draft picks should be the icing on the cake
Saying that he better win at minimum 10 games this year with a playoff appearance
Only if they are willing to pay
Flo had an interesting conversation last night on his Sunday YouTube show. He said there is a disconnect currently with the tri-county programs that is in large part attributable to the departure of some guys in either analyst roles or GA roles or other staff this spring. He says he can point to at least 5 guys in particular that left who had deep and established ties to the local schools- their replacements don’t come in with the same kind of relationships. It’s definitely affected a few recruitments.
The question is why? Did Mario fill the spots with guys whose strength was more national
Recruiting or did he simply not find the right people to step into those spots? Or perhaps it’s just a matter of time to get them established.
Seems like a valid point. Apparently Streeter {Footballville} had a show over the weekend also and talked about this issue and some other things locally that are affecting so fla recruiting. Flo said Streeter stopped short of calling people out but he was pretty honest about what he hears/knows.
The question is why? Did Mario fill the spots with guys whose strength was more national
Recruiting or did he simply not find the right people to step into those spots? Or perhaps it’s just a matter of time to get them established.
Seems like a valid point. Apparently Streeter {Footballville} had a show over the weekend also and talked about this issue and some other things locally that are affecting so fla recruiting. Flo said Streeter stopped short of calling people out but he was pretty honest about what he hears/knows.
