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Strength of schedule

In the 100’s

Pretty much sums up the performance

skyman said:

The speeeeeeed that some said wasnt big deal, yea we NEED it BAD

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Lol it’s not because of lack of speed. We just don’t try for explosive plays. We barely throw deep at all. Lately we made some attempts. We dink and donk all game. It’s not because we lack speed. Our guys beat coverage deep often and we throw short. Not sure if TVD is being told to look short or he just scared, but we gotta be more aggressive. That’s why we got stopped so much in the second half VS UNC. They came up and took away the sort routes. I mean, have we even thrown 1 ****** SCREAN to a RB all season?!!

One other thing I looked up because I was curious is how many points we've actually left on the field:

Completely ignoring all red zone activity, I went back to look at the drives we've had where it's been 1st and goal or **** near close to first and goal (i.e. 1st and 10 from the 12) and these are the outcomes. And don't forget, the top teams convert any and all red zone trips into TDs 80% of the time. I would imagine that number is closer to 90%+ with first and goal:

Southern Miss
1st and 10 from the 13: FG

Texas A&M
1st and 10 from the 12: No points
1st and Goal: FG

MTSU
1st and 10 from the 12: No points
1st and Goal: No Points

UNC
1st and Goal: No points

Va Tech
1st and 10 from the 14: FG
1st and 10 from the 13: FG

That's 44 potential points left on the field. For reference, not counting Bethune, we have scored a total of 114. That would be a 35% increase in scoring. And I'm completely ignoring other red zone opportunities that could make that number larger. Those opportunities above, had they been TDs, would be enough to win every game, except MTSU where it would have tied the score. Adding 44 more points to our total would put us at 25th in the country for points per game (38.0 ppg vs current 30.7 ppg).

I don't know what this says about Gattis. We've talked about some of the problems with this offense over and over. But, if he can fix these goal line problems and Mario can recruit some better playmakers, I do think this can be a top 10 scoring offense (currently #10 in the country is 42 ppg). Obviously that is not automatic, and many coordinators fail precisely because of that, but it doesn't seem unreasonable. I guess we'll see.

KingB02 said:

Lol it’s not because of lack of speed. We just don’t try for explosive plays. We barely throw deep at all. Lately we made some attempts. We dink and donk all game. It’s not because we lack speed. Our guys beat coverage deep often and we throw short. Not sure if TVD is being told to look short or he just scared, but we gotta be more aggressive. That’s why we got stopped so much in the second half VS UNC. They came up and took away the sort routes. I mean, have we even thrown 1 ****** SCREAN to a RB all season?!!

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I think we ran our first one against VT last game, smh.. lol

skyman said:

I think we ran our first one against VT last game, smh.. lol

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Really? I don’t recall it
How did it do?

What comes across most clearly from that raw data is that we lack any type of explosive element to our offense and that we are extremely vulnerable to the explosive elements of opposing offenses.

We desperately need speed and explosive playmaking ability on both sides of the ball. Our back seven particularly CB and LB are sorely lacking in talent, quality depth and playmaking ability.

At DL we lack elite game changing pass rushers and depth inside. Too many role players and not enough studs.

The offense has it bright spots yet is sorely lacking depth and elite level talent. Our RBs are lacking elite level explosion and homerun ability, our WRs lack game breaking speed and explosive game breaking talent Colbie Young notwithstanding.

At TE we have the players when healthy with more depth on the way but we rather inexplicably lack any type of plan on how to exploit the talent on hand. While this seems to have been a focus the last two weeks, I remain concerned with Gattis's ability to successfully integrate the considerable talents of kids like Arroyo, Skinner and the 3 excellent prospects we have committed at the position.

Dink n dunk offense and a defense that gives up the big play. That's what I see from these stats. If we can clean up the chunk plays on defense, which are mainly mental breakdowns, we will have a solid unit. Offensively, we need more big plays. Brashard Smith and Rooster, get those guys in space. Brashard Smith looked good against VT and needs to be used more in that fashion.

Look, to be prolific on offense, you have to be one of two things:

1. You have to have explosive plays and explosive players, and create scores from all over the field, or

2. If you're going to be methodical (and be careful in how you digest that word....I'm saying it as "non-explosive", not slow. Because we're running more plays than just about anyone in the country right now), then you need to be hyper efficient in the red-zone.

Well, let's check in:

1. We are 90th in the country in 20+ yard scrimmage plays. We are 105th in the country in 30+ yard scrimmage plays. And we are 128th in the country in 40+ yard scrimmage plays. The University of Miami, with the speed and athleticism of Florida athletes, and a QB with an NFL arm, has generated ONE play of 40+ yards in 5 games vs FBS opponents. ONE!!! We are tied with New Mexico State and NC State with 1 such play, and the only team worse is Ball State, who has zero. Vanderbilt has 2.

2. We're 109th in the country in redzone TD percentage. 22 trips and only scored 10 TDs.

So we're not explosive, we're not scoring long TDs (or even creating chunk plays at all), so the only way to score is to methodically move down the field, but yet when we do that and get inside the 20, we trip over our ****s.

A recipe to be a bad scoring offense, which we certainly have been. 92nd in the country in PPG.

hurricaneman said:

Here are some stats. Feel free to add any I missed. These things are all over the place.

Offense
Total Offense: 27th (464 ypg)
Passing Offense: 14th (320 ypg)
Rushing Offense: 78th (144 ypg)
Yards per Play: 57th (6 ypp)
Passing Attempts per Game: 12th (42 att)
Points per Game: 61st (31 ppg)
Red Zone Points Conversion: 58th (84%)
Red Zone TD Conversion: 82nd (59%)
First Downs: 10th (27 pg)
TOP: 23rd
Sacks Allows per Game: 66th (2 spg)
3rd Down Conversion: 36th (46%)
Long Scrimmage Plays 60+ Yards: Dead Last (0)
Long Scrimmage Plays 50+ Yards: 123rd (1)
Long Scrimmage Plays 40+ Yards: 123rd (2)
Long Scrimmage Plays 30+ Yards: 103rd (9)
Long Scrimmage Plays 20+ Yards: 96th (25)

Defense
Total Defense: 33rd (345 ypg)
Passing Defense: 92nd (249 ypg)
Rushing Defense: 12th (97 ypg)
Yards per Play: 95th (5.9 ypp)
Points per Game: 28th (21 ppg)
Sacks per Game: 7th (3.5 spg)
Turnover Margin: 44th (0.33)
Tackles for Loss per Game: 24th (6.7 pg)
Opponent 3rd Down Conversion: 46th (35%)
Long Passing Plays 80+ Yards: Dead Last (1)
Long Passing Plays 70+ Yards: Dead Last (2)
Long Passing Plays 60+ Yards: 128th (4)
Long Passing Plays 50+ Yards: 128th (5)
Long Passing Plays 40+ Yards: 119th (8)
Long Passing Plays 30+ Yards: 104th (12)

Other
Penalties per game: 101st
Punting Avg: 15th (46 ypp)

Tyler Van Dyke
Passing Yards per Game: 27th (275 ypg)
Completion %: 58th (64%)
Yards per Attempt: 62nd (7.5)
TD: 72nd (9)

Ahkeem Mesidor
Sacks per Game: 4th (1.0 spg)
Tackles for Loss per Game: 37th (1.2)

Andres Borregales
Touchback %: 15th (74%)
FG %: 52nd (77%)
Made per Game: 11th (1.7)

Corey Flagg
Tackles for Loss per Game: 4th (1.6)

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By comparison; last season by week 6:

Offense:
Total O: 46th (435.5 ypg)
Passing O: 27th (275 ypg)
Rushing O: 73rd (160.3 ypg)
YPP: 57th (5.94 ypp)
PA/G: 39th (37.2 pa/g)
PPG: 39th (32.3 ppg)
RZPC: 100th (77%)
RZTD%: 54%
First Downs: 35th (25 per/g)
T.O.P: 126th
Sacks Allowed/g: 113th (3.1/g)
3rd Down Conversion: 50th (42.5%)

Defense:
Total Def: 73rd (385 ypg)
Passing Def: 79th (234.2 ypg)
Rushing Def: 72nd (150.8)
YPP: 53rd (5.27 ypp)
PPG: 93rd (30 ppg)
Sacks/g: 36th (2.67/g)
Turnover margin: 116th (-.83/g)
TFLs: 11th (7.2/g)
Opponent 3rd Down %: 107th (43.9%)

Penalties/g: 103rd

Record: 2-4

Now, I don’t know where to find explosive play stats, so I didn’t include them, but I’m going to assume we had more explosive plays by game 6 than today. However, just wanted to give some perspective on how we started halfway last yr, & while some of these final number stats did improve, others declined.

In essence, this is the same team minus two collegiate playmakers in Harley & Rambo. Hopefully w the new found love fest Tyler has w/ Young, we’ll see some explosive play improvements, but 7-5 last yr wasn’t a fluke; if anything it was more of a fluke to be 7-5 vs 5-7.

Go Canes!! said:

Things are better offensively, buy we still have to work way too hard for every score.

We averaged 10 plays per drive on our 3 TDs and if not for a circus catch by Young early it would have taken more.

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2 TDs. 2 FGs.

RVACane said:

As rough as it is, our stats for total offense and total defense are better than the other two in state schools in FSU and UiF.

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Only problem is we have played mostly garbage teams.both of those them have played tougher opponents.unc is probably the best we played and they aren't all that and a&m looked like a better team before the season started.

Rellyrell said:

By comparison; last season by week 6:

Offense:
Total O: 46th (435.5 ypg)
Passing O: 27th (275 ypg)
Rushing O: 73rd (160.3 ypg)
YPP: 57th (5.94 ypp)
PA/G: 39th (37.2 pa/g)
PPG: 39th (32.3 ppg)
RZPC: 100th (77%)
RZTD%: 54%
First Downs: 35th (25 per/g)
T.O.P: 126th
Sacks Allowed/g: 113th (3.1/g)
3rd Down Conversion: 50th (42.5%)

Defense:
Total Def: 73rd (385 ypg)
Passing Def: 79th (234.2 ypg)
Rushing Def: 72nd (150.8)
YPP: 53rd (5.27 ypp)
PPG: 93rd (30 ppg)
Sacks/g: 36th (2.67/g)
Turnover margin: 116th (-.83/g)
TFLs: 11th (7.2/g)
Opponent 3rd Down %: 107th (43.9%)

Penalties/g: 103rd

Record: 2-4

Now, I don’t know where to find explosive play stats, so I didn’t include them, but I’m going to assume we had more explosive plays by game 6 than today. However, just wanted to give some perspective on how we started halfway last yr, & while some of these final number stats did improve, others declined.

In essence, this is the same team minus two collegiate playmakers in Harley & Rambo. Hopefully w the new found love fest Tyler has w/ Young, we’ll see some explosive play improvements, but 7-5 last yr wasn’t a fluke; if anything it was more of a fluke to be 7-5 vs 5-7.

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Problem with comparing the two our first 6 last year were about twice as hard of a schedule as this

RVACane said:

As rough as it is, our stats for total offense and total defense are better than the other two in state schools in FSU and UiF.

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Yup, but this is where numbers are silly as they don't take into account the competition.

FSU — Duquesne, LSU, Louisville, Boston College, Wake Forest, North Carolina State, Clemson.

UF — Utah, Kentucky, South Florida, Tennessee, Eastern Washington, Missouri, LSU.

UM — Bethune-Cookman, Southern Miss, Texas A&M, Middle Tennessee State, North Carolina, Virginia Tech.

Canefancarlos2 said:

Problem with comparing the two our first 6 last year were about twice as hard of a schedule as this

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Won’t disagree there, but beside, Bama

1. CCU: Miami -46.5
2. App St: Miami -9
3. MSU: Miami -6.5
4. UVA: -5.5
5. UNC: -3.5

So yes, it wound up being that our schedule last yr was harder, we were still favorite in every game, besides Bama.

I looked up stats and rankings from last year regarding explosive plays:

30+ Yards: 18th (35 plays)
40+ Yards: 20th (20 plays)
50+ Yards: 13th (12 plays)
60+ Yards: 21st (6 plays)
70+ Yards: 23rd (3 plays)

I mean....that's pretty damning. We have 2 plays over 40 yards this year, 1 play over 50 yards, and none over 60 yards.

hurricaneman said:

Here are some stats. Feel free to add any I missed. These things are all over the place.

Offense
Total Offense: 27th (464 ypg)
Passing Offense: 14th (320 ypg)
Rushing Offense: 78th (144 ypg)
Yards per Play: 57th (6 ypp)
Passing Attempts per Game: 12th (42 att)
Points per Game: 61st (31 ppg)
Red Zone Points Conversion: 58th (84%)
Red Zone TD Conversion: 82nd (59%)
First Downs: 10th (27 pg)
TOP: 23rd
Sacks Allows per Game: 66th (2 spg)
3rd Down Conversion: 36th (46%)
Long Scrimmage Plays 60+ Yards: Dead Last (0)
Long Scrimmage Plays 50+ Yards: 123rd (1)
Long Scrimmage Plays 40+ Yards: 123rd (2)
Long Scrimmage Plays 30+ Yards: 103rd (9)
Long Scrimmage Plays 20+ Yards: 96th (25)

Defense
Total Defense: 33rd (345 ypg)
Passing Defense: 92nd (249 ypg)
Rushing Defense: 12th (97 ypg)
Yards per Play: 95th (5.9 ypp)
Points per Game: 28th (21 ppg)
Sacks per Game: 7th (3.5 spg)
Turnover Margin: 44th (0.33)
Tackles for Loss per Game: 24th (6.7 pg)
Opponent 3rd Down Conversion: 46th (35%)
Long Passing Plays 80+ Yards: Dead Last (1)
Long Passing Plays 70+ Yards: Dead Last (2)
Long Passing Plays 60+ Yards: 128th (4)
Long Passing Plays 50+ Yards: 128th (5)
Long Passing Plays 40+ Yards: 119th (8)
Long Passing Plays 30+ Yards: 104th (12)

Other
Penalties per game: 101st
Punting Avg: 15th (46 ypp)

Tyler Van Dyke
Passing Yards per Game: 27th (275 ypg)
Completion %: 58th (64%)
Yards per Attempt: 62nd (7.5)
TD: 72nd (9)

Ahkeem Mesidor
Sacks per Game: 4th (1.0 spg)
Tackles for Loss per Game: 37th (1.2)

Andres Borregales
Touchback %: 15th (74%)
FG %: 52nd (77%)
Made per Game: 11th (1.7)

Corey Flagg
Tackles for Loss per Game: 4th (1.6)

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Our biggest issues in my opinion is the fact we have like no playmakers whatsoever, it's difficult to just constantly dink and dunk your way down the field. When you don't have any guys that can take a slant for 70 yards to the house or a Deep ball threat that can catch a 50 Yard bomb then out run the secondary you will have issues.

Rellyrell said:

In essence, this is the same team minus two collegiate playmakers in Harley & Rambo. Hopefully w the new found love fest Tyler has w/ Young, we’ll see some explosive play improvements, but 7-5 last yr wasn’t a fluke; if anything it was more of a fluke to be 7-5 vs 5-7.

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Include Cam Harris in that. Cam had 2 50+ runs in the first 5 games last year. We've had 1 30+ yd run since he got hurt 13 games ago

Parrish/Knighton/Thad have 3 30+ runs on 540 career carries - with a long run of 40 yds. They give maximum effort - but they're incapable.

Re-read what I just wrote before replying with a response blaming the OL

Ben Simmons will hit a 3 before we bust a 30 yd run. Unless....UNLESS.....we unleash Lucious

bshaw28 said:

Include Cam Harris in that. Cam had 2 50+ runs in the first 5 games last year. We've had 1 30+ yd run since he got hurt 13 games ago

Parrish/Knighton/Thad have 3 30+ runs on 540 career carries - with a long run of 40 yds. They give maximum effort - but they're incapable.

Re-read what I just wrote before replying with a response blaming the OL

Ben Simmons will hit a 3 before we bust a 30 yd run. Unless....UNLESS.....we unleash Lucious

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Oh I agree; Cam gets flack, but he was a tough SOB here & was DEFINITELY the better out he & Lingard.

Rellyrell said:

Oh I agree; Cam gets flack, but he was a tough SOB here & was DEFINITELY the better out he & Lingard.

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Based on how this year has played out - I wish Cam had come back & Lingard never left.