Jedi Master Cane said:

The two names I mentioned are MUCH better coaches than either of those clowns.

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CaneMutiny06 said:

You’ve made the comment before about Mario “liking shiny things” (in the negative sense). His coaches at previous stops have displayed upward career mobility, but in this situation you have to wonder whether the staff he cobbled together was an example of him falling prey to the allure of hiring names and making splashes rather than piecing together a staff that “fits” in the traditional sense.

And while Oregon never did look this bad, they certainly underachieved. In his 4th season with a roster full of HIS players and multiple good recruiting classes, they routinely played down to their competition and were in death matches with inferior teams. The Ohio State win notwithstanding, They won a bunch of close games and got absolutely embarrassed by Utah twice.

The most dismaying aspect about him beyond his his game day decision-making ability or his lack of schematic prowess is the clear issue he has in motivating his teams to play at a high level. It’s something that transcends the first two issues (which are correctable or manageable with quality coordinator hires and talent acquisition) because it’s a problem that will likely continue well into his tenure.

I fully expect that he’ll do the right thing and massacre this staff after the season is over. And I have no doubt he’s going to load the roster with talent between the recruits he signs and the portal with Ruiz backing him all the way. These things should result in improved on field outcomes.
But I also fully expect that we will still see the same uninspired, lethargic, underachieving style of play out of his future teams as well and that will put an unfortunate ceiling on what Miami can accomplish with him.

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DMoney said:

Oregon never looked this bad. That’s what gets me. The level of regression from an already-mediocre team is shocking.

It’s not like the Kirby/Kyle situation or 2019 when the QB room was falling apart. TVD is a good player who was zapped of his big-play ability.

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Jedi Master Cane said:

It's obvious to anyone with a brain and any semblance of football IQ that Gattis will/should be fired.

But I'm going to take it one step further and say something very specific that I think NEEDS to happen with the new OC hire.

It needs to be a former head coach. It's obvious Mario could really use/leverage some gameday help on the sideline. For this regime to work, Mario has to be our Ed Orgeron. He simply has to be flanked by two top notch coordinators otherwise this entire thing is doomed before it starts. Mario has one function...to be the face of the program and to close recruits in the living room.

He should be looking at guys like Dan Mullen or Bobby Petrino. You hire either of them with ZERO recruiting responsibilities and have them be completely responsible for the offense. I don't think there's a chance in **** we can get Petrino but it would be worth a try. He's basically in football Siberia right now at Missouri State, getting up there in age, and might want one more crack at the limelight without the pressures and responsibilities of being a head coach.

Here's what I know for sure....the right coordinators can turn any program around in a hurry. There are examples of it littered all over college football.

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AZHurricane said:

You give Mario a lot of credit that frankly does not comport with his coaching history.

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DMoney said:

I want to say this feels like the Butch years, because that’s always been my comparison. But that would be a lie. This feels like watching Virginia beat Miami 48-0 in the last game of the OB. Fifteen years later almost to the day and we still suck. It’s a numb feeling.

That 2007 team played horrible every week. We played it off by talking about the roster purge and the incoming recruiting class. That team had a bad OC and a staff of excellent individual coaches who didn’t click. And that team had a head coach who ultimately failed.

The only difference between this team and 2007 is that the 2022 team has better players and more money. Florida State isn’t even a dominant opponent. They will finish with four to five losses. Two years ago, we beat them like they beat us. The difference is we have gotten worse in every aspect.

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ColdCane said:

I’ll take Scott frost I know he’s probably dying to jump start his career he did well at Oregon OC and UCF . I knew Nebraska wasn’t gonna work for him cause he was never going to get the type of skill players. He can get that here and I’m sure Mario gonna build him a OL. I don’t think Mario is as stuck on the run as many make him out to be . Before TVD went down he threw 57 times against UNC and 46 times vs VT. It’s gattis man. Ion think mario is outta touch like many like to make it seem but we will definitely see this offseason

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Jedi Master Cane said:

The only thing Mario has shown is that he doesn't have an eye for identifying, wooing, and retaining quality offensive staffs. If memory serves he fired his first OC hire at Oregon and then chose not to bring the second coordinator with him to Miami....which is in essence another firing.

And God knows Gattis cannot be retained or the entire fanbase will light HRS on fire.

The ability to surround yourself with quality coaches is an ability....and if Mario the CEO doesn't get the next one right this regime is going to be huge failure. The fact he's shown he'll make changes isn't enough. At some point you have to make the RIGHT choices so that change isn't required.

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Jedi Master Cane said:

The only thing Mario has shown is that he doesn't have an eye for identifying, wooing, and retaining quality offensive staffs. If memory serves he fired his first OC hire at Oregon and then chose not to bring the second coordinator with him to Miami....which is in essence another firing.

And God knows Gattis cannot be retained or the entire fanbase will light HRS on fire.

The ability to surround yourself with quality coaches is an ability....and if Mario the CEO doesn't get the next one right this regime is going to be huge failure. The fact he's shown he'll make changes isn't enough. At some point you have to make the RIGHT choices so that change isn't required.

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sfcane2 said:

His first OC became the head coach at UNLV. His second OC Joe Moorhead was the head coach at Mississippi State and also got a HC job.

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TemplarCane said:

Which part of Mario’s coaching history? At Oregon?

He never has this situation at Oregon. Two of his OCs and one DC took HC promotions at other programs.

It remains to be seen how Mario handles adversity.

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CaneTheGaytors said:

Alex should be ashamed of himself. He’s throwing the players under the bus, and totally absolving Mario and staph. Not a good look with parents and recruits.

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Mklein13 said:

Jake Garcia has talent? What games are you watching?

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Jedi Master Cane said:

Fair enough...but those offenses also underachieved considering their offensive line was considered to be a top 5 unit in the country and they had a future first round NFL QB behind center.

I still think it's fair to question Mario's complete body of work with respect to his offensive systems.

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CaneTheGaytors said:

Alex should be ashamed of himself. He’s throwing the players under the bus, and totally absolving Mario and staph. Not a good look with parents and recruits.

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Jedi Master Cane said:

It's obvious to anyone with a brain and any semblance of football IQ that Gattis will/should be fired.

But I'm going to take it one step further and say something very specific that I think NEEDS to happen with the new OC hire.

It needs to be a former head coach. It's obvious Mario could really use/leverage some gameday help on the sideline. For this regime to work, Mario has to be our Ed Orgeron. He simply has to be flanked by two top notch coordinators otherwise this entire thing is doomed before it starts. Mario has one function...to be the face of the program and to close recruits in the living room.

He should be looking at guys like Dan Mullen or Bobby Petrino. You hire either of them with ZERO recruiting responsibilities and have them be completely responsible for the offense. I don't think there's a chance in **** we can get Petrino but it would be worth a try. He's basically in football Siberia right now at Missouri State, getting up there in age, and might want one more crack at the limelight without the pressures and responsibilities of being a head coach.

Here's what I know for sure....the right coordinators can turn any program around in a hurry. There are examples of it littered all over college football.

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RealRussellPumps said:

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Hopefully this purge includes the offensive coaching staff

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AZHurricane said:

Well he’s certainly got some adversity right now and it sure feels self-inflicted.

For what it’s worth Arroyo, Moorhead, and Wilson have dismal records as HCs after leaving Mario.

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Canedude08 said:

People are emotional. Gattis is done, there's no way he comes back, because Mario knows that having that dude on staff is cancer. Honestly, I would be shocked if any of the offensive staff outside of Mirabal returns. Mario is likely to give whomever is next full autonomy, and let them build their staff. Too many good OCs out there for Mario to tolerate this kind of crap. Frankly, Gattis is coaching like he knows he is fired, a lot of his decisions feel like middle fingers to Mario and everyone involved.

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