Will Rogers in the Portal

[TwentySix]

Genuinely curious what people see in this guy other than big stats. Feel like every time I watched him against any decent team he was completely mediocre.

 

[Alex Del Piero]

Even less mobile then TVD

I would like a mobile QB too but let's not pretend that we lost some games because of TVD's lack of mobility.

I would be okay with a healthy, accurate QB that reads the field and does not throw the ball to the other teams 3 times per game.

(I don't know if Rogers is like that)

 

[AUcane]

Throws too much for Mario

Can you imagine going from a Mike leach offense to a plodding Mario one? There are so many more attractive options in college.

 

[GeorgiaHurricane]

Throwing the ball doesn’t mean anything especially when you’re losing at the end of games as much as we have been lately. Then mix in the predictable screens which are pretty much runs. It’s the route concepts and creativity of the offense which is terrible. Dawson emptied his bag the first quarter of the season. Even the running game lacks creativity , it’s very vanilla. Ask any DC In the country and they’d tell you this offense is as predictable and easy to prepare for as any in the country. Very little motion since the A&M game , very little space and very meh route concepts.

Mike Norvell doesn’t throw the ball around the lot but he’s constantly putting pressure on all theee levels of the defense. Great in the screen game , passing off previous run action and vice versa. Putting playmakers in space and 1 v 1 situations while having the qb run aspect to steal yards. The best offensive minds is constantly messing with twenty two eyes on the defense

Oh I agree 100% with you. Honestly with people saying Mario doesn’t like to throw I looked up those stats and was expecting Miami to be a lot lower. I was just surprised

 

[SaiyaMan305]

Washington will be a top destination as well along with USC. ND has been statistically worse than us through the air this season and Auburn is all the way down at 119 in passing offense.

I forgot about Washington but USC has 1 five star QB from 2023 and one high 4 star from 2021, lets hope theyre the future for USC. I would imagine the five star guy is pretty good seeing how usc is not taking a highly rated QB this recruiting cycle

 

[JamesQuall]

Roy’s son?

@PIPO we got him

 

[407cane]

Can you imagine going from a Mike leach offense to a plodding Mario one? There are so many more attractive options in college.

yeah, mississippi state was 79th in yards per play last year under leach

92nd this year

you guys have no idea what you're talking about

 

[D_G87]

I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if he balls out big at the next stop. I think the offense , injuries and his mental just caused him to break here. The Alabama stuff and his agent put unnecessary pressure on him. That’s just my opinion.

If he balls out at the next stop after 2 bad seasons with Mario, that QB Killer persona will get louder and louder.

 

[WanderFranco]

those pass attempts are misleading. We run 8-12 WR screens a game, just a fancy run play.

Oh got it. So now it’s the TYPE of pass that’s the problem. And no one else runs any WR screens.

The narrative changes with every new post. But facts don’t lie, nor do they care about your narrative.

 

[JZCane0825]

Throwing the ball doesn’t mean anything especially when you’re losing at the end of games as much as we have been lately. Then mix in the predictable screens which are pretty much runs. It’s the route concepts and creativity of the offense which is terrible. Dawson emptied his bag the first quarter of the season. Even the running game lacks creativity , it’s very vanilla. Ask any DC In the country and they’d tell you this offense is as predictable and easy to prepare for as any in the country. Very little motion since the A&M game , very little space and very meh route concepts.

Mike Norvell doesn’t throw the ball around the lot but he’s constantly putting pressure on all theee levels of the defense. Great in the screen game , passing off previous run action and vice versa. Putting playmakers in space and 1 v 1 situations while having the qb run aspect to steal yards. The best offensive minds is constantly messing with twenty two eyes on the defense

I'm not discounting this but how much of what you're saying is simply defenses figuring out TVD and limiting our approach to what we can and can't do offensively? Not saying that a truly elite OC couldn't scheme around his limitations and have incrementally better results but not sure if 85% of the other OC's at this level wouldn't have had comparable results.

I continue to say that I'll truly judge Dawson when he has competent QB play.

 

[SSCanes]

Oh got it. So now it’s the TYPE of pass that’s the problem. And no one else runs any WR screens.

The narrative changes with every new post. But facts don’t lie, nor do they care about your narrative.

Nobody said the facts weren’t the facts, I wrote skewed. And yes, WR screens are used by others, but not to the extent of this scheme.

 

[AUcane]

yeah, mississippi state was 79th in yards per play last year under leach

92nd this year

you guys have no idea what you're talking about

You’re right - a Mario offense is more qb friendly. How could I miss that?

 

[Problem2]

Don’t you guys get tired of the same arguments over and over

 

[Cribby]

I'm not discounting this but how much of what you're saying is simply defenses figuring out TVD and limiting our approach to what we can and can't do offensively? Not saying that a truly elite OC couldn't scheme around his limitations and have incrementally better results but not sure if 85% of the other OC's at this level wouldn't have had comparable results.

I continue to say that I'll truly judge Dawson when he has competent QB play.

The gameplan and scheming is awful , which isn’t helping Tyler. We use very little motion , flexing / shifting and changing formations. That’s why there’s very easy throws and big windows. If we get blitzed out qb’s are sitting ducks about to get unleashed on. Then mix in no usage of the te’s or rb’s in the pass game or screens. It’s Gattis bad as a scheme.

 

[Jonnyblaze]

Dawson is as much a part of the problem as TVD. He calls plays with panties on. Against Lville, I was in section 203 talking about why don’t we do anything creative but basic like a run a reverse, especially since we have linemen that can get down field. Lo and behold he calls one. Touchdown.

 

[WanderFranco]

You’re right - a Mario offense is more qb friendly. How could I miss that?

I mean, how many stats do you need to see that the “fizical run bro offense” is entirely made up on this board?

 

[WanderFranco]

The gameplan and scheming is awful , which isn’t helping Tyler. We use very little motion , flexing / shifting and changing formations. That’s why there’s very easy throws and big windows. If we get blitzed out qb’s are sitting ducks about to get unleashed on. Then mix in no usage of the te’s or rb’s in the pass game or screens. It’s Gattis bad as a scheme.

31 points against a top 10 team.

 

[Damiencane86]

It's certainly warranted but TVD is going to be the sacrificial lamb used in recruiting

I'm just glad that locker room cancer will finally be gone

 

[407cane]

Dawson is as much a part of the problem as TVD. He calls plays with panties on. Against Lville, I was in section 203 talking about why don’t we do anything creative but basic like a run a reverse, especially since we have linemen that can get down field. Lo and behold he calls one. Touchdown.

we had 486 yards of offense against Louisville and averaged 7.5 yards per play

 

[Jonnyblaze]

31 points against a top 10 team.

And zero TDs against a meh NC State team.