Wheres the bar for 2018?

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Beat LSU, win at least 10 games and the Coastal, and be competitive with Clemson win or lose which has us in the top 4 debate and gets us a Big 6 Bowl at a minimum. Beyond that...

- better qb play
- being able to run the ball WHEN WE NEED TO
- have a shut down defense
- improved special teams

U forgot to mention the over weight elephant in the Cane locker room. The Cane offensive line is AVERAGE at best. And that includes the returning O-line starters from this season. So until the Canes have a dominate, NASTY offensive line, the Canes will have a difficult time winning the ACC championship game. hUh.
 
Improvement is much more than just wins and losses. Technically, this team could improve significantly next year and still go 10-2 and lose the ACCCG. I mean they only improved from 8 wins under Golden/Scott to 9 under Richt in year one but the on field improvements were significant.

I'd like to see more consistency on both offense and defense. No more getting up for big games and sleepwalking through others.
They need to get better at QB if they're going to compete for playoff spots. 2017 Rosier is not going to cut the mustard.
Obviously, third down improvement on both sides is paramount.
Better lineplay, especially run blocking and short yardage.
Lastly, with improved recruiting, depth should be much better. I don't want to cringe every time a starter has to come off the field for rest or an injury. There should not be the huge drop off from first to second team at so many positions as there is now.

If you want a totally tangible goal, I'll say win the ACC but I'm not going to throw a hissy fit if I see significant improvement that doesn't neccesarily come with a conference title.
 
ACC home games: Duke, North Carolina, Pittsburgh, Florida State
ACC road games: Georgia Tech, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Boston College
OOC: LSU (Neutral Field), at Toledo, FIU, Savannah State

Beat LSU to start the year an I think we have a clear shot at running the table. @VT will probably be the toughest game of the clear before the ACC Title Game.

The ACC will of course stick us in Boston in November I'm sure, because that's what they do.
 
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Any word on who the 4th non-conference opponent will be?

LSU 9/2
Open Date 9/8
@ Toledo 9/15
FIU 9/22

The rest of the schedule is TBA

Home:

Duke
NC
Pitt
FSU

Away:

GT
UVA
V Tech
BC

Not sure what makes this schedule so much harder than this year's, although we do have some holes to fill on OL and DL.

The QB position will be either the return of Rosier or N'kosi steps up. Hopefully this is settled during the Spring.
 
Any word on who the 4th non-conference opponent will be?

LSU 9/2
Open Date 9/8
@ Toledo 9/15
FIU 9/22

The rest of the schedule is TBA

Home:

Duke
NC
Pitt
FSU

Away:

GT
UVA
V Tech
BC

Not sure what makes this schedule so much harder than this year's, although we do have some holes to fill on OL and DL.

The QB position will be either the return of Rosier or N'kosi steps up. Hopefully this is settled during the Spring.

Savannah State, it was supposed to be at Rutgers, but they paid us off to get out of the deal.
 
Are we all committed to saying we need to win the ACC next year?

Can't speak for anybody else but yes I think that's fair.
Some very important **** has to happen this offseason for that to happen but with recruiting going as it is and the trajectory this team is on if we resolve our QB and continue to grow it is attainable.
 
End Goal - We need to get back to the ACCCG and be in the hunt for the Playoffs, like we were this year. I could handle not winning the ACCCG again if it's to a loaded Clemson/FSU team and we play them close. No more blowouts.

Season Goal - Win at least 1 between LSU, FSU & VT at minimum. I can handle being 10-2 going into the ACCCG if the loses came to good teams. The losing to bad teams (ND 2015, Pitt 2016) can't happen anymore.

I want to see at least a similar outcome to this year, but improve the "way" we do it.
 
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The schedule in 2018, like 2017, is easy. Miami is the class of the field again in the Coastal and should win. Below find the Out of Conference schedules of Power 5 teams that Play Miami next season. FSU, VT and Pitt dominating and going undefeated against their OOC opponents may help Miami’s Strength of schedule and record.

Miami - LSU, @Toledo, FIU, Savannah St

FSU - Samford, Northern Illinois, @Independent team, Florida
@VT - W&M, E. Car, @Old Dominion, Independent team
@BC - UMass, Holy Cross, @Kansas, Purdue
@GT - Alcorn St, [MENTION=5352]USF[/MENTION], Bowling Green, @UGA
@UVA - Richmond, @Indiana, Ohio, Liberty
UNC - @Cal, @E. Car, UCF, W. Car
Duke - Army, [MENTION=19140]North[/MENTION]western, @Baylor, UNC-Central
Pitt - Albany, PSU, @UCF, @Independent team

LSU - Miami, Southeastern Louisiana, Louisiana Tech, Rice
 
Beat LSU, win at least 10 games and the Coastal, and be competitive with Clemson win or lose which has us in the top 4 debate and gets us a Big 6 Bowl at a minimum. Beyond that...

- better qb play
- being able to run the ball WHEN WE NEED TO
- have a shut down defense
- improved special teams

U forgot to mention the over weight elephant in the Cane locker room. The Cane offensive line is AVERAGE at best. And that includes the returning O-line starters from this season. So until the Canes have a dominate, NASTY offensive line, the Canes will have a difficult time winning the ACC championship game. hUh.

Agree. It was implied with my comment about being able to run the football when we have to.
 
The schedule in 2018, like 2017, is easy. Miami is the class of the field again in the Coastal and should win. Below find the Out of Conference schedules of Power 5 teams that Play Miami next season. FSU, VT and Pitt dominating and going undefeated against their OOC opponents may help Miami’s Strength of schedule and record.

Miami - LSU, @Toledo, FIU, Savannah St

FSU - Samford, Northern Illinois, @Independent team, Florida
@VT - W&M, E. Car, @Old Dominion, Independent team
@BC - UMass, Holy Cross, @Kansas, Purdue
@GT - Alcorn St, [MENTION=5352]USF[/MENTION], Bowling Green, @UGA
@UVA - Richmond, @Indiana, Ohio, Liberty
UNC - @Cal, @E. Car, UCF, W. Car
Duke - Army, [MENTION=19140]North[/MENTION]western, @Baylor, UNC-Central
Pitt - Albany, PSU, @UCF, @Independent team

LSU - Miami, Southeastern Louisiana, Louisiana Tech, Rice

It seems mighty LSU's non-conference schedule is a typical SEC non-conference. :um1lw: Go figure. Because with the exception of Miami, LSU's schedule is SOFT! For instance, I believe both Rice and SE La. were in ESPN's BOTTOM 10 and what not.
 
Win Coastal, beat VT and FSU (kinda necessary for a Coastal title anyway), and beat LSU.

Yeah, that looks like the bar is 12-0, but winning the Coastal is mandatory, so ill say THATS the bar.

No QB as of yet for 2018, so forget playoffs and expectations of a ACC Title. Just beat the 5 crap coastal opponents, and at least one vs LSU and FSU (they are both winnable).

Win the awful Coastal or the season is a failure.
 
The schedule in 2018, like 2017, is easy. Miami is the class of the field again in the Coastal and should win. Below find the Out of Conference schedules of Power 5 teams that Play Miami next season. FSU, VT and Pitt dominating and going undefeated against their OOC opponents may help Miami’s Strength of schedule and record.

Miami - LSU, @Toledo, FIU, Savannah St

FSU - Samford, Northern Illinois, @Independent team, Florida
@VT - W&M, E. Car, @Old Dominion, Independent team
@BC - UMass, Holy Cross, @Kansas, Purdue
@GT - Alcorn St, [MENTION=5352]USF[/MENTION], Bowling Green, @UGA
@UVA - Richmond, @Indiana, Ohio, Liberty
UNC - @Cal, @E. Car, UCF, W. Car
Duke - Army, [MENTION=19140]North[/MENTION]western, @Baylor, UNC-Central
Pitt - Albany, PSU, @UCF, @Independent team

LSU - Miami, Southeastern Louisiana, Louisiana Tech, Rice

It seems mighty LSU's non-conference schedule is a typical SEC non-conference. :um1lw: Go figure. Because with the exception of Miami, LSU's schedule is SOFT! For instance, I believe both Rice and SE La. were in ESPN's BOTTOM 10 and what not.


LOL. Pitt will do their usual and be 2-2 at best.

VT is back to their old ways. The OSU* series was a anomaly. They are back to a one game season, beat UM and go to ACC CG.
 
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I see a lot of folks not even asking to win the ACC. So the bar is officially no improvement for those folks. Sad.

Are these the folks?

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Idk what the schedule is like for next season but in my mind, 10 games and coastal champs is the bar.

LSU (9/2), @Toledo (9/15), FIU (9/22)
@BC on the Atlantic side
ACCCG Dec.1.

Anyone know who our 4th ooc opponent is?
 
Are we all committed to saying we need to win the ACC next year?

Can't speak for anybody else but yes I think that's fair.
Some very important **** has to happen this offseason for that to happen but with recruiting going as it is and the trajectory this team is on if we resolve our QB and continue to grow it is attainable.

We really have a chance to go 12-0. Almost did it, should have done it, this year. LSU is tough but beatable, with a drunken, crazy coach. FSU at home should be a win. We are better/more talented than all other opponents. This is assuming we have a QB. And improved OL.

Should we expect to beat Clemson in the ACC CG? No. But we should expect to have a chance.
 
IMO if we are starting new players at QB, WR, RB, and OL/DL then ACCCG and a NY6 bowl would be fine for me. I do not expect to be in the playoffs until 2019 depending on who stays.

Edit: I would also like to see our Offense improve and actually take over a game for once. I felt that this year the offense always had to claw their way out of a hole. Would like them to start out fast next year and keep their foot down on an opponent.

I'd also like to see how our defense plays with a lead.
 
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