We are a real program again

[TexasCane90]

He doesn’t make that catch Daniel’s did… CJ is a better talent than Horton now that he’s healthy.

 

[brcane1]

UGA and Kirby would kill for their OL to be like ours.

Just with that, our floor is pretty **** high.

The ole Searles special

 

[BoxingRobes]

Not with Shannon Dawson calling games like that. You need a reason top receivers don't sign on out of high school. It's starts and ends with how Shannon Dawson apparently chooses to call games like this. He's literally the only reason we didn't win by atleast 17. So boring and unimaginative his play calling was tonight. I get part of the reason is our young wr unit. But that doesn't excuse the constant diVes on first down, followed by some version of an intermediate route followed by off tackle to the right side over and over again. Once we ran out of our scripted plays for the first half he just called vanilla for the third and fourth qter. Don't wanna be a downer when we should be celebrating a big win. But putting our foot on they neck and snapping that **** is what top recruits wanna see. Not that mary Poppins **** we did keeping them in the game.

I thought our WRs struggled to get open versus the very elite ND DBs. Big play TDs were acts of God. Had some bad drops, too.

I thought Beck lacked some velo on some passes, too. But I say that watching the game from under the roof so I was nice n dry considering and maybe the ball sucked tonight.

Playcalling in the 4th quarter could have lost us the game. Not throwing on those third downs is wild to me. I guess Mesidor told Coach he got it, just run.

 

[TemplarCane]

Dawson is twice the OC Bobo is at UGA. But, Bobo had the good sense to use his TE in multiple schemes and positions. Just think when you have that kind of talent(Lofton) you should adjust your game to incorporate it. SMH, as to why he won’t.

Dawson doesn’t show much creativity.

Miami went into a shell after going up 21-7. Great second half opening drive, then Notre Dame into a three and out. Time for another good drive to at least a field goal, or just run clock. Instead Miami pulls four consecutive three and outs. We did manage a field goal, but only because of Bain’s interception, three players and kick. 23 total yards in four possessions.

There was a 46 yard drive to kick the winning field goal, but 15 of those yards was a penalty on Notre Dame.

54 yards after the opening second half touchdown drive. Three points only because of a turnover.

The issue isn’t necessarily generating more points and blowing out Notre Dame by 24. Just get a couple first downs and punt to flip the field on those drives and the game never comes down to that ending.

Dawson may be better than Bobo, but Dawson wet the bed tonight and is lucky Corey’s defense showed measurable improvement from last year.

 

[brcane1]

Caveman get strong. Caveman no need smart.

 

[fincane]

It will be interesting to see if anyone has the balls to argue with you on this

The only argument is about whether it is Dawson or Mario. And it shouldn't be. This is a Mario Cristobal joint. And it always will be. People watch his teams play to the personality of the head coach on offense at every stop and point at Dawson as the reason why it looks a certain way? The same thing happened under Gattis. There was a 3rd and Goal from the 4 against A&M back in 2022. We're down 17-6 late in the 3rd. What is the play call? An inside run that is stopped way short.

He is what he is. That game turning into battle of who is tough enough touches his soul. Accept it and hope it doesn't cost us at the worst time.

 

[Alex_Dynamix]

I’ll have more detailed thoughts after the rewatch, but all that matters to me is that we are a real program again. We were a joke for 20 years. These types of games were not competitive. Teams like Alabama were playing a different sport.

Now, we can play big-boy football with any team in the country. Alabama is dead. The sport is open. And we are a real program again.

I had to read all off season how Manny Diaz wasn’t that bad after watching us look like a JV squad every time we played a BAMA / Clemson level team … this version of the Canes looks like they can go toe to toe with anybody in the country !!!

 

[Alex_Dynamix]

Let’s wait until November lol not to rain on the parade. But we gotta whole season

In the Manny Diaz days we would’ve got ran off the field tonight.

 

[Fzac75]

100% agree. All that chatter about Beck’s 24-3 record in the SEC in Miami can’t manage a first down after the opening second half touchdown draft. Not until the last minute field goal drive, which includes a 15-yard pass interference penalty on the Irish. Maybe Notre Dame adjusted and Dawson had no answer.

Nor is Miami signing top receivers out of high school unless we have a returning quarterback of note. Cam Ward was a gift from the football gods and I am so happy we have Carson Beck.

But if you’re an elite high school wide receiver or a top portal wide receiver this December your first and only question regarding Miami is going to be “who is the quarterback?”. There very well maybe be another worthy portal QB next year, but that can’t be the answer.

I am hoping Miami gets enough big leads in enough games to give Luke Nickel enough playing time and he proves he’s the real deal for 2026. I doubt this happens though because Emory will get those reps, handing off on more inside running.

Great win tonight. Beats losing.

You did see that if notre dumb doesn’t do that pass int two things would have happened A) Marion catches the ball for a td cus the pass was on target and the DB was beat or B) Marion drops the ball on a pass that was on target and the DB was beat? In fact the announcers were literally saying it was a smart penalty because the pass was on target and he got beat and Marion would have scored a TD.

 

[NZ Cane]

You did see that if notre dumb doesn’t do that pass int two things would have happened A) Marion catches the ball for a td cus the pass was on target and the DB was beat or B) Marion drops the ball on a pass that was on target and the DB was beat? In fact the announcers were literally saying it was a smart penalty because the pass was on target and he got beat and Marion would have scored a TD.

Facts, he was cooked, basically intentional. If anything they should look at a harsher penalty for that sort of crap.

 

[TemplarCane]

You did see that if notre dumb doesn’t do that pass int two things would have happened A) Marion catches the ball for a td cus the pass was on target and the DB was beat or B) Marion drops the ball on a pass that was on target and the DB was beat? In fact the announcers were literally saying it was a smart penalty because the pass was on target and he got beat and Marion would have scored a TD.

I agree. I’m not sure what your point is though.

My point is Miami did nothing between scoring to open the second half and driving for the long field goal. A drive aided by the penalty.

 

[Fzac75]

I agree. I’m not sure what your point is though.

My point is Miami did nothing between scoring to open the second half and driving for the long field goal. A drive aided by the penalty.

My point is you are trying to minimize the effectiveness and quality of that drive by only saying “the aided” part. When in fact in that drive they were effective, to the point that they forced notre dumb into making that penalty to avoid a perfectly thrown touchdown pass.

The funny thing is, that drive and the reason the penalty happened actually helps your point in regards to the critique of the offense going very conservative after we went up 21-7.

You intentionally left out the details of what occurred in that penalty to push the narrative of “got lucky” on that drive by the penalty. When in actuality we created, executed the play effectively, putting the defensive player in a position to make the penalty to stop a touchdown from happening.

 

[TemplarCane]

My point is you are trying to minimize the effectiveness and quality of that drive by only saying “the aided” part. When in fact in that drive they were effective, to the point that they forced notre dumb into making that penalty to avoid a perfectly thrown touchdown pass.

The funny thing is, that drive and the reason the penalty happened actually helps your point in regards to the critique of the offense going very conservative after we went up 21-7.

You intentionally left out the details of what occurred in that penalty to push the narrative of “got lucky” on that drive by the penalty. When in actuality we created, executed the play effectively, putting the defensive player in a position to make the penalty to stop a touchdown from happening.

Feel free to indulge yourself and add any hypothetical results.

Maybe the receiver catches the ball for a game-winning touchdown.
Maybe the receiver catches the ball but is tackled, tripped, or falls down and Miami is left with a much shorter field goal attempt.
Maybe the receiver drops the ball and the game goes into overtime, assuming Miami doesn’t run another play and ‘get lucky’.

These alternative outcomes do not outweigh the facts:

• The 46-yard drive included a 15-yard penalty. I never claimed Miami ‘got lucky’. I noted the yards the penalty added to the drive.
• Miami had 23 total yards and 0 first downs between opening the second half with a 75-yard 7:37 drive for a touchdown and the drive,
• Miami’s other points after the second half touchdown drive was set up by a multiple tipped interception. A great play by Reuben Bain by the way, including a nimble 12-yard return. Roughly half of Miami’s offensive output between the touchdown and the drive.

 

[Santana Sosa]

Not with Shannon Dawson calling games like that. You need a reason top receivers don't sign on out of high school. It's starts and ends with how Shannon Dawson apparently chooses to call games like this. He's literally the only reason we didn't win by atleast 17. So boring and unimaginative his play calling was tonight. I get part of the reason is our young wr unit. But that doesn't excuse the constant diVes on first down, followed by some version of an intermediate route followed by off tackle to the right side over and over again. Once we ran out of our scripted plays for the first half he just called vanilla for the third and fourth qter. Don't wanna be a downer when we should be celebrating a big win. But putting our foot on they neck and snapping that **** is what top recruits wanna see. Not that mary Poppins **** we did keeping them in the game.

I want to piggy back off this a bit, because it's spot on, often rehashed, and often dismissed.

There is a such thing called "Trends". And everything has one. This staff has a tread of getting leads and playing conservative in the 2nd half. This staff has a trend of identifying exploits...exploiting them, then abruptly shifting away from them. This staff has a tread of blowing leads allowing teams to just march down the field 10 yards at a time. This staff has a trend of not game planning qb runs up the middle. This staff has a trend of terrible TO usage. There is a trend of too long huddles/not enough pace getting to the line.

These are all COACHING concerns. The players do not control the playcalling. Coached teach players from Pee-wee football on up "play to the whistle" and they need to follow their own coaching and play to the final second of the game. You take half the listed flaws above out of our games, and we win more games by a larger margins, and we get the young bucks on the field for experience. All this clock management 6 minutes into the 3rd qtr has to stop. It's not benefiting anyone but the concession stations.

 

[Brooklyndee]

It’s ok to have some creativity in play design.

It's not an issue to call a run behind the strength of our team on third and short. IT IS AN ISSUE TO CALL THE SAME EXACT PLAY EACH & EVERY TIME ON THIRD AND SHORT. Even the announcers are calling where it's going pre snap. What do you think a defense is thinking.

 

[Brooklyndee]

It will be interesting to see if anyone has the balls to argue with you on this

This has always been the point when people wanna say I'm just being a homer cause Mario and the university mean this much to me. It's never been reality. I call a spade a spade & say what I see. What I think. We kept them in that game and had to stress it directly because of play calling. After Reubens pick(which he should've scored himself on) to call the same exact run plays we've called all game and settle for a quick 3 is absurd. Even more absurd the last drive of the game after we've had snapping issues throughout the game, the muffed snap early in the game and a field goal kicker who wasn't good enough for fau... That's how you wanna call the drive and put the game on a unknowns leg... Again not an issue to run the ball. But Jesus do we have more than 3 run plays in our game plan.

 

[Brooklyndee]

We played a ND team with a freshman qb playing on the road and we still almost lost the game because of Mario ball. Hold your delusion until after the FSU game. We have them USF and Florida coming up

You can't tell someone they're being delusional and immediately follow it up by saying we've gotta worry about fspoo and USF. I'm far more worried about USF then poo. I get it they beat a watered down bama team that I said two years ago was gonna spiral out of control and last year I said even though deboer can do amazing **** with that team I wouldn't be surprised if they don't run him out of town before he's able to get his guys in. Ufag actually does worry me a lil. The other two. Lmao. Everyone wants to worry about poo and castellano with his his 200 total yards. That bama team looks lost. Miss me with that one. I still say 7 or 8 wins.

 

[NZ Cane]

I just don't get why Dawson dosnt have a few wrikles we can add. It would be useful to have a couple of plays that suit Lyle instead of smashing our quicker back into a brick wall and injuring him.

Regarding the conservative calls, we have to be fair. The QB dictates some of that...

It was too conservative but there where a couple of back foot heaves there tonight that had pick written all over them. Lets not forget this QB had 9 picks vs AL/FLA/GEORGIA last year. There is work to do there...

 

[Brooklyndee]

I want to piggy back off this a bit, because it's spot on, often rehashed, and often dismissed.

There is a such thing called "Trends". And everything has one. This staff has a tread of getting leads and playing conservative in the 2nd half. This staff has a trend of identifying exploits...exploiting them, then abruptly shifting away from them. This staff has a tread of blowing leads allowing teams to just march down the field 10 yards at a time. This staff has a trend of not game planning qb runs up the middle. This staff has a trend of terrible TO usage. There is a trend of too long huddles/not enough pace getting to the line.

These are all COACHING concerns. The players do not control the playcalling. Coached teach players from Pee-wee football on up "play to the whistle" and they need to follow their own coaching and play to the final second of the game. You take half the listed flaws above out of our games, and we win more games by a larger margins, and we get the young bucks on the field for experience. All this clock management 6 minutes into the 3rd qtr has to stop. It's not benefiting anyone but the concession stations.

While I agree with what you're saying in large part, it's important to remember the reason we play the game. It's about winning first and foremost. The way you win is important to fans and recruits. My issue has far more to do with the monotony of the game Dawson called. I don't mind running the ball. Just don't use the same God **** run plays in the same exact situations over and over again. Mix it up. On top of that, with the line we have nothing at all wrong with calling higher percentage passes so we can free up the box or atleast loosen up the run lanes. Defense i had an equal amount of issues with and it's the side of the ball I take far more personal. We're still not playing as a unit. No excuse for that first touchdown. That was entirely on the secondary falling asleep and just watching the play instead of playing assignment football until the down ends. That **** with Toure I don't even wanna remind myself about. We just gotta tighten up

 

[Bender]

I think that the main objective was to not **** the football away into a defense that played really competitive football in the back end for much of the game. As much as people celebrate the Daniels TD for obvious reasons, it was almost a pick and I think the coaching staff saw just that.

There was light rain throughout the entire game. People who play sports on grass in that weather know how tricky this can be. The ground may be solid, but the upper layer of it is almost soapy and can cause slips and inaccurate cuts. As much people may want to drizzle over the passing game, multiple players slipped and stumbled on both sides of the ball.

The good thing above all is that this wasn't a fluky win and it could've turned out to be a lot bigger if we didn't coach passively post 21-7. Turnovers ruin the game and the gameplan seemed more suited towards a bad weather game. And even then, let's not forget that the refs enabled that ND comeback with some horse**** penalties.

I'd rather have a coaching staff that turns away from stuff that works to protect the football and secure possession rather than a gambling one that scrambles looking for something to work. Only thing that ****ed me off was me seeing players with short plastic studs. I want to kick Adidas in the nuts for that. That's ******* inexcusable.