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Urban Caught lying..... Surprise!

QuatroCane said:
“I’m a psychiatric nurse, for God’s sake,” Shelley told the magazine. “All I do is help people problem-solve, help them with their social issues, their personal tragic situations, real life stuff.”

Except Aaron Hernandez, *** that guy, I just made sure he stayed eligible. They both sound like self-righteous a-holes.
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Completely agree.

I like how they blur the lines between whether they sent them to an independent specialist for help or just had them over for dinner to share the Meyer family greatness...
 
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McMurphy is starting to drop more:

Zach Smith’s annual base salary only increased $6,600 – by far the lowest annual raise of his career – following the 2015 season, the year he was investigated for domestic violence and felonious assault against Courtney Smith.

The $6,600 increase was the lowest in his six-year career at Ohio State, according to documents provided by the school.

By contrast, he received his largest raises of his career the season before the domestic violence investigations - $50,000 before the 2015 season – and also the year after the investigations - $73,400 before the 2017 season.

According to Ohio State, on Feb. 1 of each year, Zach Smith’s base salary was:

2013 - $155,000
2014 - $170,000 (a 10 percent raise)
2015 - $220,000 (a 29 percent raise)
2016 - $226,600 (a 3 percent raise)
2017 - $300,000 (a 32 percent raise)
2018 - $340,000 (a 13 percent raise)

By comparison, other assistant coaches on both the 2015 and 2016 staffs received significant base salary increases after the 2015 season: Luke Fickell received a $110,000 raise; Larry Johnson $50,000; Tony Alford $25,000; Ed Warinner $50,000; and Tim Beck $75,000.

According to university documents, Zach Smith’s 2017 staff performance review, under overall comments it lists “Positive:” and “Work on:”

Under “Work on,” the fifth item is “Personal Matters”

It is the only reference to any non-football related items on Smith’s staff performance review.

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UPDATE: About an hour after I published this story Tuesday afternoon, Ohio State finally responded to my four-day old public information request.

Johnson did not say if Shelley Meyer had been disciplined - her husband Urban was placed on paid administrative leave on Aug. 1 - only that Shelley's next teaching assignment at Ohio State starts Sept. 1. She annual receives $13,392 in compensation.

Johnson added Shelley Meyer teaches one class each year during the fall semester and is currently not teaching this term. She began at Ohio State in 2012, the first season Urban was hired as head coach.
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DerekDohrman said:
nah, we got caught cheating and skated by relatively clean in the end all things considered. Having Golden as our coach was a far bigger punishment for our program than anything the NCAA did to us. but i havent forgotten the witch hunt from EVERYBODY. sorry, but im not going to perpetuate it, there's enough of that going on in america. everyone's outraged over every little thing and frothing at the mouth to take people or institutions down, regardless of the reason. its mostly fueled by hate or jealousy. i want no part of it.

we were dumb about what we did and who we associated with and had to pay a price for it. i actually look on blatant cheating(paying players) far worse than i do this current urban stuff, as its actually relevant to football & competitive fairness(yes, im aware all big time programs, including OSU are dropping bags, and if/when they get caught THEN i'll demand proper, SEVERE punishment)

aside from those differences between the two situations, i simply see the joy in threads like these as coming from a very insecure place in fans. people hate urban because he wins a lot of football games. i get it. i hate him, too. but, the effect of that hate on me is that i want to BEAT him. others seem to just want an excuse for him to have to quit and to have one less great coach to have to compete against.

im a fan of the game. I want the absolute best out there competing, and i want to beat them all. I hope we finish the year beating Dabo, Urban, and Saban in that order.
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I can't stand how the media over blows things and how people try so hard to bring others down. And I respect Urban as a football coach but hate him as a football coach since he got UF two titles and OSU one. But I can compartmentalize real hate and sports hate for someone. I would never want to see someone lose their job simply because I have sports hate for them. Urban has pretended and preached for years how he holds himself and his players to the highest ethical standards. During this time, he has never held his players accountable and has put winning over everything else. He then lied to get out of Florida and then got caught in multiple lies in this last situation. No matter what comes out from this investigation there is no way around the fact that he repeatedly lied and had the nerve to say how could someone make up a story like this when he knew the story was real. It's simply disgusting and wrong. What is more mind boggling is how the media overblows every story but somehow has been more quiet about this story when this is actually something that deserves an uproar. Nothing would make me happier than playing Urban and dominating his team. I don't want him gone because I fear him, he simply deserves to be fired for the way he's handle this.
 
DerekDohrman said:
nah, we got caught cheating and skated by relatively clean in the end all things considered. Having Golden as our coach was a far bigger punishment for our program than anything the NCAA did to us. but i havent forgotten the witch hunt from EVERYBODY. sorry, but im not going to perpetuate it, there's enough of that going on in america. everyone's outraged over every little thing and frothing at the mouth to take people or institutions down, regardless of the reason. its mostly fueled by hate or jealousy. i want no part of it.

we were dumb about what we did and who we associated with and had to pay a price for it. i actually look on blatant cheating(paying players) far worse than i do this current urban stuff, as its actually relevant to football & competitive fairness(yes, im aware all big time programs, including OSU are dropping bags, and if/when they get caught THEN i'll demand proper, SEVERE punishment)

aside from those differences between the two situations, i simply see the joy in threads like these as coming from a very insecure place in fans. people hate urban because he wins a lot of football games. i get it. i hate him, too. but, the effect of that hate on me is that i want to BEAT him. others seem to just want an excuse for him to have to quit and to have one less great coach to have to compete against.

im a fan of the game. I want the absolute best out there competing, and i want to beat them all. I hope we finish the year beating Dabo, Urban, and Saban in that order.
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You're right it has nothing to do with his condescending, holier than thou, "we only recruit the top 1% of 1%", total hypocrisy in which he was caught in a lie along with being a state of Ohio employee who covered up abusive behavior instead of doing his job as a man and leader of men.
 
Hegemon said:
You're right it has nothing to do with his condescending, holier than thou, "we only recruit the top 1% of 1%", total hypocrisy in which he was caught in a lie along with being a state of Ohio employee who covered up abusive behavior instead of doing his job as a man and leader of men.
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i know.

imagine how much you'd care if he was a perennial .500 coach who never sniffed a title.
 
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DerekDohrman said:
i know.

imagine how much you'd care if he was a perennial .500 coach who never sniffed a title.
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Derek, clearly you also care because you're in here repeatedly posting in this thread. Of course we care. I hate Ohio State as much as I hate Florida State. I hate Meyer as much as I hate Saban. I don't get why we should have some blasé attitude about this. Why should we get hit with sanctions by the NCAA and just be cool with Ohio State floating under the radar and self-policing a scandal?
 
Poptimus said:
Why should we get hit with sanctions by the NCAA and just be cool with Ohio State floating under the radar and self-policing a scandal?
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I get the outrage, and it's because the ultimate issue is the NCAA doesn't care about crime. It only cares if players are paid. That's how PSU got out of their punishment.
 
Mnhurricane said:
drinks are on me boys when the Meyers are let go
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Agreed...

1. Even if Meyer reported Smith in 2015, he should have fired him at that time because, he, not his superiors, should set the standard for OSU FB.

2. The 2009 handling of the abuse with Urban's lieutenants show he was willing to compromise himself to protect and enable a wife-beater.

3. Smith's firing last month, after McMurphy's report went public, was tacit admission that Meyer knew keeping Smith on staff was wrong.

4. Meyer's willful deception and bold-faced lie at media day showed he lacks integrity and has questionable character.

5. The nature of his wife's passive enabling since 2009 also demonstrates a pattern of poor judgement, and draws question to their family's values.

6. His assistants' (& wives) knowledge (including Schiano, who according to testimony has a history of ignoring child molestation & sexual abuse) of the violence w/out any intervention is also concerning from an institutional control standpoint, as it pertains to title IX, mandated reporting, and possible collusion.

7. The make-up of his current coaching staff with individuals who've either ignored or used abuse to further their coaching aspirations, demonstrates a consistent theme of valuing winning over integrity, character, and the safety of women, children and student athletes on a whole..

When you put all of this into consideration, how can a committee of professional leaders believe this guy should continue to coach football anywhere, let alone at OSU?

There is a chance that unknown information may exonerate Meyer from the mandated reporting aspect, but the failures above raise bigger questions about justice and core values at an institution of higher education.

Pay the man his money if he did his job, but sever ties to demonstrate institutional integrity. I can't see this going any other way.
 
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Gsugradcanefan said:
"She already had made statements concerning his abuse in her 2015 petition for a divorce; that file was sealed until recently to protect Zach Smith’s career, and Brett McMurphy reported it was sealed without Courtney Smith’s consent."

There's no way Meyer didn't know about this. Yeah, I think he's done.
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He's since admitting to knowing about it. He "failed" to answer correctly because he wasn't prepared for the questions. Funny that his baseline instinct is to just lie, say it never happened and who would make up such a story. Standup guy.
 
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Found this opinion piece on Nola.com while looking for updates on LSU's fall camp. This guy nails the absurdity of Ohio State fans looking to blame everyone under the sun for the current death struggle U.M. finds himself in and not the POS coach that seems to foster the same type of toxic, out of control environment everywhere he sets up shop..

Why are Ohio State fans directing attention to the SEC instead of Urban Meyer?
MainLineCane said:
Look: OSU Fans rally at Ohio Stadium for Urban Meyer
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Cribby said:
I wouldn’t be shocked if Mcmurphy had a picture of Urban riding on Shelleys 11 inch strap on dong , and Zack is power bombing his wife through a flaming table in the background, while Schiano fists a midget.

This is the level of reporting and evidence this dude is sitting on.

Urban might want to stop, it’s only going to get worse.
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Listen brother, one cane to another. I love and admire your imagination and creativity. However I hope for your sake you are remembering to wipe the cookies and history once a week on your company computer. Just looking out for you. Always got your back. Lol
 
Distructobot3000 said:
Found this opinion piece on Nola.com while looking for updates on LSU's fall camp. This guy nails the absurdity of Ohio State fans looking to blame everyone under the sun for the current death struggle U.M. finds himself in and not the POS coach that seems to foster the same type of toxic, out of control environment everywhere he sets up shop..

Why are Ohio State fans directing attention to the SEC instead of Urban Meyer?
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Did you do any research on the writer?

Posts - Joseph Goodman | jgoodman@al.com | NOLA.com

Yeah, works for AL.com (READ: 'Bama PR outlet) and based out of Birmingham.
 
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Distructobot3000 said:
Found this opinion piece on Nola.com while looking for updates on LSU's fall camp. This guy nails the absurdity of Ohio State fans looking to blame everyone under the sun for the current death struggle U.M. finds himself in and not the POS coach that seems to foster the same type of toxic, out of control environment everywhere he sets up shop..

Why are Ohio State fans directing attention to the SEC instead of Urban Meyer?
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Ohio State fans are pathetic. Just saw a post by Brett McMurphy on FB where he reported about LSU and FSU agreeing to play games in 2022 and 2023 and loser OSU fans are on there trying to claim he botched the reporting about the Urban Meyer story.
 
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