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Upcoming playoff expansion vote (12 Team Playoff Chosen, 9.2)

OldhamA said:
Bowl games are literally dead then.
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They've been kaput for a while when the best NFL prospects turn their attention to the draft and choose not to play.

It's a different day.

No point in doing the SOS just because many of us loved them glory days
 
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Cribby said:
It wasn’t the players idea is the point, most didn’t want to do it until their piece of the pie got dramatically bigger. There’s a reason it took so long. And it was more than money for the players.
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It's called bargaining
 
Hold My Beer said:
Tells me they should've asked for money.
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You obviously don’t get it,or didn’t follow this closely. Guys that’s been around like R Wilson , A Rodgers and others said it was a horrible idea. It was a money grab by owners and it wasn’t good for the players long term health or the game. Basically it added some money to the low levels players pockets and gave them more spots. Which means more jobs. The vote being so close makes it obvious to anyone who wanted this a lot more. Owners.
 
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S.CarolinaCane said:
Everyone has a solution

The FACT is there would literally be no chance of coming up with something, with all of the damned teams in D1 football, that would make them all happy.

Let's enjoy what we have, ****, I wouldn't be surprised to see college athletes boycotting certain sports, at some point, with all of the NIL attention going on.
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16 teams was always the answer with the current conference format. Conference champs get automatic bids then five at large selections.

College football is the only sport where you can win your conference (division in the pros) and be locked out of contention for a major championship. The system was always corrupt and this was the epitome of that corruption.

G5 should have demanded their own championship long ago because they are never getting a seat at the big boy table. Do that and I would have been cool with a five or six team playoff. P5 champs automatic and maybe an are large or 3.
 
Cribby said:
This!!! Piling in a bunch of mediocre 9-3 / 9-4 teams doesn’t improve the product or experience.
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Yup. There will be some benefits. But you basically just made the entire regular season meaningless for Alabama and Ohio State and probably Clemson, etc. 9 times outta 10. Is the intensity in the iron bowl really gonna be 100/100 if Bama is 11-0? Why even play your starters except its a rivalry game?

So let’s go 1 step further. Say this is enacted this season. Miami is 11-0 headed into the Pitt game. There’s no real rivalry there. Would you let TVD take a snap? I sure as **** wouldn’t. We have a playoff bid locked up. Its over. Why play any of your starters???

Again, they just made CFB more like the NFL. I get enough of that on Sunday. I don’t need it on Saturday.
 
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OrangeBowlMagic said:
Yup. There will be some benefits. But you basically just made the entire regular season meaningless for Alabama and Ohio State and probably Clemson, etc. 9 times outta 10. Is the intensity in the iron bowl really gonna be 100/100 if Bama is 11-0? Why even play your starters except its a rivalry game?

So let’s go 1 step further. Say this is enacted this season. Miami is 11-0 headed into the Pitt game. There’s no real rivalry there. Would you let TVD take a snap? I sure as **** wouldn’t. We have a playoff bid locked up. Its over. Why play any of your starters???

Again, they just made CFB more like the NFL. I get enough of that on Sunday. I don’t need it on Saturday.
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Very strong points. It does diminish the regular season tremendously.

Maybe CFBPO seeding doesn't occur until after the last game? That could be a powerful incentive for some/most teams to win out because a drop is seed could lay out a cery different path to Natty.

With that said, the heat is restored IF/WHEN traditional rivals meet in CFPO rounds.

Do they keep the first rounds until final four as higher ranked home field? Are all rounds played in neutral territory?
 
People argue/state all season about there being a huge divide between the top 2-3 and then the rest.
But when they enter all these teams into a playoff bracket image that all of sudden these ‘other teams’ have a chance. They don’t. There will be no Cinderella story. This isn’t dodgeball.

The end of the year should be concerned with having more competitive, quality games. This does not do that.
 
TruCane81 said:
16 teams was always the answer with the current conference format. Conference champs get automatic bids then five at large selections.

College football is the only sport where you can win your conference (division in the pros) and be locked out of contention for a major championship. The system was always corrupt and this was the epitome of that corruption.

G5 should have demanded their own championship long ago because they are never getting a seat at the big boy table. Do that and I would have been cool with a five or six team playoff. P5 champs automatic and maybe an are large or 3.
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Several people have that solution...but several have others as well.

Like I said, I just love the game
 
dycane said:
They’ve destroyed bowls
They’ve destroyed conferences
Now they are destroying the importance of the season (and rivalries)

All so they can make more money

Thanks, networks
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Why are you blaming the networks? No one is putting a gun to the head of selfish AD's, Presidents, and other admin who are constantly following the almighty dollar (it's America, we all do). I'd put more blame on the conferences and the individual universities than the TV networks.

If they really cared about the sport itself as a whole, like they did when creating the playoff format and the upcoming new one, and negotiated TV deals as one gigantic entity like the NFL. At least give the impression these are not-for-profit entities, I know I am naive, but **** this just really takes away from the best regular season in sports.
 
Empirical Cane said:
Very strong points. It does diminish the regular season tremendously.

Maybe CFBPO seeding doesn't occur until after the last game? That could be a powerful incentive for some/most teams to win out because a drop is seed could lay out a cery different path to Natty.

With that said, the heat is restored IF/WHEN traditional rivals meet in CFPO rounds.

Do they keep the first rounds until final four as higher ranked home field? Are all rounds played in neutral territory?
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From what I've seen, it appears first round games will be at home fields of seeds 5-8. Quarterfinal and semi-final rounds will be played in existing bowls. Championship game will be at its own site (as it is now). My guess, the New Year's 6 bowl games will host the quarterfinal and semi-final rounds on a round robin basis.
 
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Well, forget about ND joining any conference for the foreseeable future. Huge win for those Domers who want to stay independent. The only downside is they will ALWAYS have to win 4 playoff games to win it all since the highest 4 conference champs will get first round byes. So, unless they should ever need the extra money of conference affiliation or get tired of having to play extra playoff games, they are staying independent.
 
CaneinBroward said:
Why are you blaming the networks? No one is putting a gun to the head of selfish AD's, Presidents, and other admin who are constantly following the almighty dollar (it's America, we all do). I'd put more blame on the conferences and the individual universities than the TV networks.
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Just the same as blaming players for taking money promised by college coaches and often routed from boosters through third parties.

Or blaming college football's or basketball's governing body for not sanctioning every program that's buying players when schools simply lawyer up and stonewall any investigation by a feeble NCAA enforcement staff.

Bottom line: If coaches or boosters or agents or weren't offering players bags, then these rules wouldn't be getting broken.
 
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Some weird arguments in here. It’s about money? Well no ****, so is conference expansion and that’s the only reason this change is happening, it’s the same format that got rejected a year ago. Who cares? This is great for programs like Miami with a coach like Mario, he recruits well enough we should always be a top 15 team, which means we should always be a playoff team, which means we can sell the program to recruits, which means we recruit better, which means we win more.

You think we’d have an easier time selling to recruits that we played in the playoff just 5 years ago or the current 20 years of irrelevance? It also adds more randomness to the post season which is good for the game, there are plenty of examples of the “best” team not winning the super bowl because crazy **** happens the more one off games you play. I just don’t see how this is a bad thing unless you don’t like change, I’m good with dudes getting paid and I’m good with more playoff teams, move on stop worrying and learn to love the bomb.
 
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