Today was the first...

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...time in the Golden era that his team quit on him. Didn't happen last year, even with all the adversity. But it happened today. This performance brings to mind the 2007 Oklahoma Massacre, and that Canes team finished 5-7.

Some other thoughts...

-Said it last year, and my opinion hasn't changed: The biggest threat to the future of Miami football isn't the NCAA investigation. It's the lack of quality defensive linemen.

It would be one thing if we were watching freshmen taking their lumps. But Earl Moore was the only signee (out of seven) who played any meaningful snaps. Normally, defensive linemen don't play until they "grow mustaches." But the normal rules don't apply to the unit we watched today. If the freshmen have the natural talent we hope, they need to earn some snaps. We already know that Golden's first class of defensive linemen is laden with JAGs and busts (Pierre, Grimble, Smith, Williams, King, Felix). I have higher hopes for the 2012 group, but I'm concerned.


One play in particular summed up the state of defensive line for me (:11 in the video below). We're down 7-0. Shayon Green is lined up at "rush" defensive end, even though he isn't much of a pass rusher at all. But because more gifted rushers like Tyriq McCord and Gabe Terry are strength liabilities against KSU's running game, we are forced to rotate Green and Kelvin Cain-- two guys Shannon recruited to play linebacker.

KSU runs a simple QB power with Klein--a classic, smash mouth running play. Green is lined up on the right (offense's left) against Zach Trujillo, a 236-pound sophomore tight end (#85). On paper, it should be a good matchup for the jacked-up Green against a receiving tight end. Instead, Trujillo manhandles Green and clears a wide open line for Klein:

(:11)

[video=youtube;YHBFyFGLQlI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHBFyFGLQlI[/video]

The sad truth is that Golden had more defensive line talent at Temple than he has at the University of Miami. Let that sink in, and then join me in jumping out of a window. Chickillo is the only quality player, and he might be scraping his ceiling more than we want to admit. I know Golden likes to raise his players from pups, but he may need to do what Butch did and scour the JUCOs. Miami's championship breakthrough in 2001 coincided with the addition of guys like Jerome McDougle, Andrew Williams and even Cornelius Green.


- So will we have a losing record? The main difference I see between this group and the last sub-500 team (2007) is talent on offense. Then again, that talent didn't score touchdowns today. Count me in with the group that wants to see Morris under center more often. He has a quick, efficient dropback and is not a natural shotgun quarterback like Jacory. Most importantly, the running game needs a boost. Mike James in particular (81 yards, 3.5 ypc through two games) is struggling.

- Morris hit his targets all day, but his red-zone struggles are a concern. For all of Jacory's flaws, he was a constant TD threat once he crossed the 25 and really took advantage of his feathery touch. Morris is weak on those type of throws and was unable to lead a touchdown drive against an average KSU defense.

- Brandon McGee could be this year's Jake Wieclaw/Tommy Streeter. He fought off a block and made a touchdown-saving tackle in the first half, and his interception was the type of play he's never made in a UM uniform. If he keeps it up, he could earn himself an NFL opportunity.

- I feel good about the future of the linebacker position. Eddie Johnson's head was swimming early on, but he makes up for his inexperience with motor and physical beastliness. Pair him with Perryman and some talented youngsters like Terry and Kirby and we just might look like a Miami linebacker corps soon. One more thing: let's stop with the excessive subs of the 'backers. They did the same thing last week and it's not working, especially when Gaines relieves Perryman.
 
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I would love to know why Perryman and Johnson ever come out.

The DL is just horrific. Agreed on the Juco route. We need to do something, because its not like it looks like its going to get better soon
 
The defensive line is going to take at least another 2 years to stock up on talent that can also contribute regularly. I don't care how many great DT's we recruit in 2013, they aren't going to be able to consistently contribute until they "grow that mustache". So you're looking at a long term project regardless UNLESS you go JUCO, which we've resisted thus far.
 
The defensive line is going to take at least another 2 years to stock up on talent that can also contribute regularly. I don't care how many great DT's we recruit in 2013, they aren't going to be able to consistently contribute until they "grow that mustache". So you're looking at a long term project regardless UNLESS you go JUCO, which we've resisted thus far.


But, but, but

We got Darius Smith
 
Mike James isn't struggling. He just isn't being used properly. How many times has he gotten to take a handoff from a QB under center and run north/south or run downhill behind a fullback? Hardly at all, and that is his strength.

We're using him for shotgun HB draws and on sweeps, and out in the flats, and to go east/west which doesn't suit him at all.

Blaming him for his results so far is like blaming a fish who is born to swim for not knowing how to walk on land.
 
The defense is an absolute cluster ****. No clue where to even being.

The Dline and our safety play is as bad as I've ever seen from a major D-1 program. Was watching the game with someone who knew nothing about our players and he was just blown away by 22, couldn't believe how hopeless he looked on the field.

Don't understand how we could not at least stack the box or try to bring some heat. We just sit back and take the beating, it's pathetic.

Mike James seems like a **** of a nice guy, but I don't think this guy can play. He's extremely slow.

If we have any shot at reaching .500 this season were going to need to score close to 50 each week, no joke.
 
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Mike James isn't struggling. He just isn't being used properly. How many times has he gotten to take a handoff from a QB under center and run north/south or run downhill behind a fullback? Hardly at all, and that is his strength.

We're using him for shotgun HB draws and on sweeps, and out in the flats, and to go east/west which doesn't suit him at all.

I agree, which is the one of the reasons Morris should spend more time under center.
 
I would love to know why Perryman and Johnson ever come out.

Because despite everything we've heard about "UTough" and how we are in such great condition we still need to sub out our best defensive players for backups who suck because we need to keep our starters "fresh"
 
Walford deserves a mention. Been a while since we've seen a TE rip a long one like he did today.


We were plagued by the dropsies again. Duke was given opportunities and he didn't convert. As razor-thin as our margin for error is, even one drop is a huge detriment in any hopes of being competitive against quality opponents.

Yeah, Duke has to catch that slant he dropped early on. That was at minimum a big gain and maybe 6. Wasn't a great throw, but ****.
 
I would love to know why Perryman and Johnson ever come out.

Because despite everything we've heard about "UTough" and how we are in such great condition we still need to sub out our best defensive players for backups who suck because we need to keep our starters "fresh"

That's the disadvantage of playing underclassmen. Many of them just can't take the pounding for long stretches. Bodies aren't there yet.
 
That '07 team actually kept it close until the 3rd, when a Javarris fumble was returned for a TD. Then the floodgates opened. This team didn't even get off the bus.
 
I think Hamilton and McCord need to get more snaps. It's not like the starting defensive ends are getting any pressure at all so you might as well put them in and use them more than they have been so far.
 
Its easy to say they quit on him but I think it was more a case of they just flat out got an *** kicking and we sucked. If we quit it was from the first drive of the game on cause we were getting gashed from the opening kick off.
 
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The defensive line is going to take at least another 2 years to stock up on talent that can also contribute regularly. I don't care how many great DT's we recruit in 2013, they aren't going to be able to consistently contribute until they "grow that mustache". So you're looking at a long term project regardless UNLESS you go JUCO, which we've resisted thus far.


Stop ******* resisting. If the 2001 team made use of the JC route, it's time to get down and dirty with guys who can't spell P-O-T-A-T-O.
It doesn't make sense to me why they've resisted. We need two star JuCo DEs worse than anything. We'd be a totally different team with Vernon and Ojomo.
 
The defensive line is going to take at least another 2 years to stock up on talent that can also contribute regularly. I don't care how many great DT's we recruit in 2013, they aren't going to be able to consistently contribute until they "grow that mustache". So you're looking at a long term project regardless UNLESS you go JUCO, which we've resisted thus far.


Stop ******* resisting. If the 2001 team made use of the JC route, it's time to get down and dirty with guys who can't spell P-O-T-A-T-O.
It doesn't make sense to me why they've resisted. We need two star JuCo DEs worse than anything. We'd be a totally different team with Vernon and Ojomo.

It's all about building his culture and avoiding bad seeds. And I genuinely get his point. As much as McDougle/Williams gave us a boost in 2001, they were some of the biggest culprits of the laissez faire mentality of the 2002 team.

But it's gotten to the point where he has no choice.
 
Mike James isn't struggling. He just isn't being used properly. How many times has he gotten to take a handoff from a QB under center and run north/south or run downhill behind a fullback? Hardly at all, and that is his strength.

We're using him for shotgun HB draws and on sweeps, and out in the flats, and to go east/west which doesn't suit him at all.

Blaming him for his results so far is like blaming a fish who is born to swim for not knowing how to walk on land.




Mike James was born to be an I-form back. Line him up behind Hagens and use him to punish teams. Instead, we ask him to run shotgun draws from a standing position as opposed to having a head of steam built up when he hits the line. I put that **** on Fisch and his ****amamie spread scheme.

Both coordinators are struggling. I do not think Fischer is doing our D any favors with the hurry up and throwing the ball 50 times a game. The only way we win any significant number of games is if we Run the **** ball. Get under center, play to ur strength which is ur oline, and run the ball and own the time of possession battle. Leaving that defense on the field all game gets ur *** whipped. See today for proof.
 
SO having two safeties in the game 5 yards deep in the endzone had nothing to do with it?>

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