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Memnon said:
They lost their QB, they weren't one of the 4 best teams in the country at that point.

That's not a justification to expand to 12 teams.
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What should end up happening is a P2 level tier with two leagues, 20-24 teams each. 4 teams from each league comprise the playoff group of 8 teams. This requires SEC and B1G expansion. This means Miami must join one of the other in order to participate.

The remnants the ACC and Big 12 expand with select G5 teams into a second level, with their own playoffs and championship game. Miami can join one of the two super conferences or settle for this level of competition.

Whomever is left out of the above two tiers is not part of the real conversation anyway.

The key to all of this is creating a level playing field in each tier. At least as level as possible. I believe NIL and revenue sharing helped with this implementation, but we need to be wary of those who want to rig the game.

It’s true the four CFP got it right 95% of the time, but this was also an era when certain conferences and teams were allowed to cheat with impunity, thereby rigging the game. Funny how many SEC teams are overrated at the beginning of the season, and beating them when ranked higher than they should be improves the winning team’s stock in the rankings.
 
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JeffreyG said:
What made college football the best is every game mattered. Now teams with 3, even 4 losses will get in. That leads to resting your starters, playing back ups at the end of the year if you already have 9+ wins.
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Well, it’s true that every game mattered but a team could never recover from a difficult start. Is the sport better when a second loss effectively ends your season as early as mid October?

What made college football one of the worst was competition was so unbalanced the same teams won over and over and over again for decades. Usually by breaking the rules made create the illusion of competitive balance.
 
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TwentySix said:
Oregon. Ohio State. Bama. Take your pick.
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TCU won their last two games 48-10 and 55-3 over Texas and Iowa State, yet fell in the polls.

Their only loss was a three-point loss on the road to #5 Baylor. They had beaten #4 Oklahoma, #7 Kansas State, #15 Oklahoma State, and #20 West Virginia. The beat #9 Ole Miss 42-3 in their consolation ball game.

Winning did not matter. Voting is what counted, voting for the sake of ratings and appeasing sports networks
 
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TemplarCane said:
TCU )won their last two games 48-10 and 55-3 over Texas and Iowa State, yet fell in the polls.

Winning did not matter. Voting is what counted.
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1 loss to 11-1 Baylor on the road by 3, but because the Big12 was full of morons they didn’t get a second chance, meanwhile Bama lost at home to 9-4 Ole Miss, Oregon lost at home to Arizona, and Ohio State got steamrolled at home by Va Tech.

Watching TCU kick the **** out of Ole Miss in the bowl was one of my favorite college football games.
 
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TwentySix said:
1 loss to 11-1 Baylor on the road by 3, but because the Big12 was full of morons they didn’t get a second chance, meanwhile Bama lost at home to 9-4 Ole Miss, Oregon lost at home to Arizona, and Ohio State got steamrolled at home by Va Tech.

Watching TCU kick the **** out of Ole Miss in the bowl was one of my favorite college football games.
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Wait, you mean the regular season didn’t matter?
 
Empirical Cane said:
Hear me out:

DOUBLE LOSS elimination playoffs.

Think on it before ya'll react.

Before uou know it, year round season.
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I like it.

I was thinking best 2 out of 3, each team with a home game with a neutral site for the possible third. A week between games with an extra week between rounds. Start the playoffs in December and be done by June. Eliminate spring practice. Take July off and then start up training camp in August.
 
Calinative said:
I mean if you just imagine it like every conference does a 4 team playoff to determine the winner then the winner of the 4 major conferences do a 4 team playoff….
12 or 16 is a good number imo.
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College football is the only team sport in the world where you can win your conference/division and have no shot at the big dance. It’s corruption, hypocrisy, and elitism in its purest form.

The number was always 16. Conference winners gets automatic bids and 5 at large ( well before the Pac12 died anyways). Use the old BCS formula to select at large bids ( good mix of human eye test and “unbiased” computers).

Don’t want to see the G5 champs in? Fine. Break them off and give them their own playoff. We complain about the corruption and good ole boy network but then support the fruit of its treachery when we are in a favorable position.
 
Canesrule230 said:
100% its their job and I'm not deriding them for looking out for their conferences best interest - but it's destroying the sport.
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I think there would be too much backlash if they went with only 40 teams. I think they could make it work with the teams currently in the P4, standardize schedules (9 conference games, 2 OOC with P4 teams, and 1 G6 team), each P4 conference winner is guaranteed a spot in the playoff along with the highest ranked G6 conference winner, personally I think 8 teams is the right number for the CFP, but they want to make the most money so I'm sure it will end up being 16.

A lot of people on here are down on the NFL, but guess what, they are the best run sports league by a mile. Hire one of Goodell's underlings as a commish. Negotiate TV deals with multiple networks like the NFL. Quit kowtowing to the NFL when it comes to the postseason. Enough playing playoff games, especially the championship game, on weekday nights. Make a Championship Saturday like the NFL has a Super Bowl Sunday. Higher ratings and all day party around the country.
 
Just go to the super league model that got proposed and get rid of the subjectivity of “best team”. Top 2 teams from each region get in, eliminate unbalanced schedules, keep it moving. This shouldn’t be hard but obviously the conferences aren’t going to agree to eliminate themselves, but the problem isn’t the overall number of teams being too high.
 
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Why stop at 16?

Why not just put all 130 FBS teams in the playoffs & just have every regular season game be a playoff game?

It's completely unfair if 7-6 Rutgers doesn't get a chance to play 7-6 Vanderbilt in the playoffs to see if they're the best team in the Nation.
 
DMoney said:
Four is the right number. Every real controversy in college football history is solved by four teams. And in most years, that’s overkill.

Expanding the playoffs was always a bad idea and it gets worse every year.
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I always thought 8 was the perfect number, and We never got there. IMO 12 was too many. But its all about the money, mane. The more playoff games you play, the more cash comes in for the conferences.
 
Memnon said:
Why stop at 16?

Why not just put all 130 FBS teams in the playoffs & just have every regular season game be a playoff game?

It's completely unfair if 7-6 Rutgers doesn't get a chance to play 7-6 Vanderbilt in the playoffs to see if they're the best team in the Nation.
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Honestly it’s either 4 or 130 for me

The same argument being made for 16-20 could be used the whole way

But I’m just some ****head that didn’t get worked up debating if we were the 13th best team last year
 
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