The real problem with OL recruiting in 2020

Check out LSU/Bama/UGA/OSU recruiting at OL/DL on an annual basis. Those are the numbers we should strive for. They sign on average 3-5 per year on both lines. And they sign grown men, too. Not 230 pound projects.
Eh. Our 230 lb project is starting over guys who were much bigger when we signed them. It’s terrible that we’re starting a reach true frosh project at LT, but I for one have no expectation thst the guys behind him on the depth chart would be better.

we’ve signed massive guys and they’ve struggled. It’s evals, S&C, development, culture. There arent many huge kids in HS who are also athletoc enough to become great college players, and most of them go SEC. I do not judge the type of prospect we should target, just identify the need to have a plan and be good at evals vs plan.
 
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Eh. Our 230 lb project is starting over guys who were much bigger when we signed them. It’s terrible that we’re starting a reach true frosh project at LT, but I for one have no expectation thst the guys behind him on the depth chart would be better.

we’ve signed massive guys and they’ve struggled. It’s evals, S&C, development, culture. There arent many huge kids in HS who are also athletoc enough to become great college players, and most of them go SEC. I do not judge the type of prospect we should target, just identify the need to have a plan and be good at evals vs plan.

I am a proponent of bringing in guys that are a bit lighter and letting them develop. But, that's the caveat. They need to develop. Zion Nelson being out there is an indictment of the entire room. Just imagine being Kai Leon Herbert and having to wake up every morning, looking yourself in the mirror, knowing you're the guy that can't beat out this bum. Really makes you question your purpose on the gridiron.
 
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Yep. Go after as many as possible and promote competition. Floridians like:

-Michael Rankins
-Miller Merriweather-Lewis
-Kris Love
-Marlon Martinez
-Lloyd Willis
-Cayden Baker

Would Moise be a great guard as well? Since we apparently have Elijah and are keeping Riggins we already have enough DTs for this class.

Off of that group i would be all over..Rankins (seen him in person) Kris Love, and Cayden Baker.

Willie Moise looks real good playing ol, like real good. Also played against him this year.
 
Don't you think the staff has given everything they got to keep Neal,Walker and Etc home. Miami is known for poor O-Line play where we rarely have O-Lineman get drafted early. The top O-Lineman down here can go wherever they want and get developed by far O-Line coaches and go to winning programs. Why would they come here? We need to start winning and show the local O-Lineman they can be developed at Miami. Big Baby Seymore is someone we cannot lose to the SEC. He's actually a die hard cans fans and will be the best O-Lineman recruit we have had in a long time. He needs to be a top priority for 2021

Did somebody say Big Baby??


 
Watched the LSU/UF and all I kept saying was **** this OL is savage

Agree with D$ here.. What is our staff doing? Butch Barry needs to go if we don't improve throughout the rest of the season and our OL recruiting fails in SoFla
 
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I agree. Stoutland was the best. When he was here, he signed 64% of his OL from South Florida.

Stoutland was the best because he's a ****** SB winning OL coach who can teach technique and scheme better than 99.99999% of the OL coaches on the planet. Not because he signed 64% of his OL from South Florida.
 
Stoutland was the best because he's a ****** SB winning OL coach who can teach technique and scheme better than 99.99999% of the OL coaches on the planet. Not because he signed 64% of his OL from South Florida.

You’re reading it backwards.

He’s the best OL coach on the planet and a gifted evaluator. When he was at Miami, he signed 64% of his OL from South Florida and built a future NFL line.

That should tell us something about the best approach for recruiting OL at Miami- dominate South Florida and focus on big cities where kids are more likely to appreciate the Miami lifestyle.
 
here we go with D moneys undying loyalty and love for SFL divas and bag hunters. jesus, step away from their collective bleeps and realize that OL talent is MUCH better away from this diva filled area
 
Rewatching GTech 17 and notice Hayden Mahoney.. Looks like our former starting RG can't even crack the two deep at Boston College
 
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The problem with our Oline is much much more than a few top rated guys going elsewhere. There's AAC and lower P5 programs with better Olines than us with much bigger recruiting issues.

Our issue with Oline has been identifying the wrong players, recruiting players with skillsets that do not mesh together, poor coaching, what looks like poor film study and poor offensive calls that put these guys in their worst possible positions.

Most of our starting linemen have bad feet or poor athleticism. They get beat by edge speed or blitzers up the middle. They are not good in space or pulling, are slow on stretch plays allowing the backside to crash down, and get knocked off balance too often in pass pro. That part is recruiting the wrong guy/skillset and not doing enough in the gym/practice to improve their balance and footwork. F the sled work.

Far too often our Oline blocks air on pass downs. They hit guys then hand them off to nobody. They block down and double guys while letting and outside rushers or A gap blitzes go unblocked. They look around their zone but don't step over to help others engages. They seem completely lost on who their assignment is. How is it that other schools can get freshmen/sophomores ready to play together but we can't? Is it coaching? Is it film study and not going through situations in practice to prepare them? Is it not recruiting cerebral enough Olinemen to pick up the mental game quick enough?

Demeanor - the line is not a physical line. They haven't been in years which is why we've seen all those stuffs on 3rd/4th and short. There's no push and on pass downs i see too much reaching/pawing and not enough punching. This is recruiting AND setting a tone/expectation in the Oline room, gym and on the field.
 
The problem with our Oline is much much more than a few top rated guys going elsewhere. There's AAC and lower P5 programs with better Olines than us with much bigger recruiting issues.

Our issue with Oline has been identifying the wrong players, recruiting players with skillsets that do not mesh together, poor coaching, what looks like poor film study and poor offensive calls that put these guys in their worst possible positions.

Most of our starting linemen have bad feet or poor athleticism. They get beat by edge speed or blitzers up the middle. They are not good in space or pulling, are slow on stretch plays allowing the backside to crash down, and get knocked off balance too often in pass pro. That part is recruiting the wrong guy/skillset and not doing enough in the gym/practice to improve their balance and footwork. F the sled work.

Far too often our Oline blocks air on pass downs. They hit guys then hand them off to nobody. They block down and double guys while letting and outside rushers or A gap blitzes go unblocked. They look around their zone but don't step over to help others engages. They seem completely lost on who their assignment is. How is it that other schools can get freshmen/sophomores ready to play together but we can't? Is it coaching? Is it film study and not going through situations in practice to prepare them? Is it not recruiting cerebral enough Olinemen to pick up the mental game quick enough?

Demeanor - the line is not a physical line. They haven't been in years which is why we've seen all those stuffs on 3rd/4th and short. There's no push and on pass downs i see too much reaching/pawing and not enough punching. This is recruiting AND setting a tone/expectation in the Oline room, gym and on the field.
We also did not recruit tackles under Richt. We kept recruiting interior guys and tried to kick them out to tackle. So now we are in the current mess of playing tackles that need 2-3 years of seasoning before they are ready.
 
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We don’t just need elite recruits. We need elite transfers. Depth is a big problem.
Bingo, thank you. Need to develop what we have and recruit, but hopefully also digging through the juco ranks/transfer portal. Need at least one or two ready-to-play, grown-***-men.
 
We also did not recruit tackles under Richt. We kept recruiting interior guys and tried to kick them out to tackle. So now we are in the current mess of playing tackles that need 2-3 years of seasoning before they are ready.
Recruited what were thought to be tackles, but often ended up lacking and thus kicked inside.
 
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