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I will say that if we ended up with:

DL Kuligowski
LB/DC Olivadotti
DB Raymond

That would probably be the strongest defensive coaching staff in the country.
 
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ghost2 said:
I will say that if we ended up with:

DL Kuligowski
LB/DC Olivadotti
DB Raymond

That would probably be the strongest defensive coaching staff in the country.
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Definitely would be strong but still seems unlikely that Richt would have a first time DC.

Although if he chose olivadotti, he would be surrounded by the best DL coach and a solid dB coach so maybe that's the best way to groom a DC
 
Gatorhater said:
UknowWhat said:
Obviously since he hasn't been named..Our next DC is still working.. Question / Poll. .is he coaching in the College or NFL ranks?
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Congrads on your son's awards. Still can't wait to see him run through the Smoke. Who ever it is I want to things: 4-3 and aggression. Do not want a 3-4 at all. Too much need and temptation to turn from speed to bulk. You boy is made to be a Hurricane MLB in a classic 4-3 Cane defense.

As hard as DT for a 4-3 are to find, NTs for 3-4 are even harder. Then you have to fatten up what should be fast 4-3 DTs into fat slow 3-4 DTs and have your DEs dropping into coverage instead of meeting at the QB.
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The NT in Arandas defense doesn't have to be more than 300 LBs. Aka a standard DT size. You people need to learn more and porst less.
 
FullyERicht said:
Gatorhater said:
UknowWhat said:
Obviously since he hasn't been named..Our next DC is still working.. Question / Poll. .is he coaching in the College or NFL ranks?
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Congrads on your son's awards. Still can't wait to see him run through the Smoke. Who ever it is I want to things: 4-3 and aggression. Do not want a 3-4 at all. Too much need and temptation to turn from speed to bulk. You boy is made to be a Hurricane MLB in a classic 4-3 Cane defense.

As hard as DT for a 4-3 are to find, NTs for 3-4 are even harder. Then you have to fatten up what should be fast 4-3 DTs into fat slow 3-4 DTs and have your DEs dropping into coverage instead of meeting at the QB.
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The NT in Arandas defense doesn't have to be more than 300 LBs. Aka a standard DT size. You people need to learn more and porst less.
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In general he's right but yeah Aranda is probably the most unique defense I've ever seen. Crazy confusing for offensive lines and literally anybody could be the down lineman or stand up end /linebacker at any time. Hope he comes here but highly doubt it on no real legit rumors
 
3-4 or 4-3 is not the issue at all and people need to understand that.

What is significantly more important is the gap philosophy:

1 gap or 2 gap for the DL?

Spill or contain?

The irony is you have people on here dying for Leavitt bc he runs a 4-3.

But Leavitt's system requires more size and power. It is a "boxing the ball back" system, where the idea is to use power to force the ball inside. The Sam LB in his system needs to be a big strong dude well over 240 lbs. The 4-3 Leavitt runs is the exact version of the 4-3 that Dono uses when we ran single gap fronts.

Here's another example: the 2012-2014 Denver Broncos were a mediocre defense. They played Jack Del Rio's 2-gap 4-3. Essentially, the DTs were asked to be big powerful space eaters, responsible for 2 gaps. That Temple guy "Potroast" excelled in that system b/c it is a read and react philosophy from the interior DL.

Needless to say, that defense was completely average and downright bad at generating QB pressure.

Fast forward today, and Wade Phillips runs a 3-4 defense. But his defense is single gap, and so they dumped "Potroast", and the DL are now charged with getting up field off the snap. They are quick, fast, and they slant and stunt all over the place. B/C of their alignment, they are able to send 5 on every play if needed, no problem. Denver now boasts the top defense in the league.

So you went from a 4-3 2-gap defense that was mediocre, to a 3-4 single gap defense that is elite. Not b/c you changed a goddam alignment, but b/c you changed the defensive philosophy.
 
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Can't see Fedora moving on. They love him here in NC. He just got a tight end to switch from Georgia to UNC.
 
FullyERicht said:
3-4 or 4-3 is not the issue at all and people need to understand that.

What is significantly more important is the gap philosophy:

1 gap or 2 gap for the DL?

Spill or contain?

The irony is you have people on here dying for Leavitt bc he runs a 4-3.

But Leavitt's system requires more size and power. It is a "boxing the ball back" system, where the idea is to use power to force the ball inside. The Sam LB in his system needs to be a big strong dude well over 240 lbs. The 4-3 Leavitt runs is the exact version of the 4-3 that Dono uses when we ran single gap fronts.

Here's another example: the 2012-2014 Denver Broncos were a mediocre defense. They played Jack Del Rio's 2-gap 4-3. Essentially, the DTs were asked to be big powerful space eaters, responsible for 2 gaps. That Temple guy "Potroast" excelled in that system b/c it is a read and react philosophy from the interior DL.

Needless to say, that defense was completely average and downright bad at generating QB pressure.

Fast forward today, and Wade Phillips runs a 3-4 defense. But his defense is single gap, and so they dumped "Potroast", and the DL are now charged with getting up field off the snap. They are quick, fast, and they slant and stunt all over the place. B/C of their alignment, they are able to send 5 on every play if needed, no problem. Denver now boasts the top defense in the league.

So you went from a 4-3 2-gap defense that was mediocre, to a 3-4 single gap defense that is elite. Not b/c you changed a goddam alignment, but b/c you changed the defensive philosophy.
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Boom. Add in some coverage philosophies, and this is all you need to know about what we're hoping to see from a Miami defense.
 
If I'm going to the NFL for a DC I find a guy who has worked under Wade Phillips for awhile and can install Wade's system here. Wade's defenses are always nasty, fast, disrespectful and disruptive.

I don't think that guy gets enough love as the absolute defensive genius he is because he's old, low key and has failed as a HC. His defenses are absolutely tailor made for the speed and downhill athletes we have access to.
 
ghost2 said:
I will say that if we ended up with:

DL Kuligowski
LB/DC Olivadotti
DB Raymond

That would probably be the strongest defensive coaching staff in the country.
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I've got my tissue and vasoline ready!!!! I didn't know much about Olivadotti before today but everything I've read suggest he's a **** good and well respected COACH!!
 
LuCane said:
FullyERicht said:
3-4 or 4-3 is not the issue at all and people need to understand that.

What is significantly more important is the gap philosophy:

1 gap or 2 gap for the DL?

Spill or contain?

The irony is you have people on here dying for Leavitt bc he runs a 4-3.

But Leavitt's system requires more size and power. It is a "boxing the ball back" system, where the idea is to use power to force the ball inside. The Sam LB in his system needs to be a big strong dude well over 240 lbs. The 4-3 Leavitt runs is the exact version of the 4-3 that Dono uses when we ran single gap fronts.

Here's another example: the 2012-2014 Denver Broncos were a mediocre defense. They played Jack Del Rio's 2-gap 4-3. Essentially, the DTs were asked to be big powerful space eaters, responsible for 2 gaps. That Temple guy "Potroast" excelled in that system b/c it is a read and react philosophy from the interior DL.

Needless to say, that defense was completely average and downright bad at generating QB pressure.

Fast forward today, and Wade Phillips runs a 3-4 defense. But his defense is single gap, and so they dumped "Potroast", and the DL are now charged with getting up field off the snap. They are quick, fast, and they slant and stunt all over the place. B/C of their alignment, they are able to send 5 on every play if needed, no problem. Denver now boasts the top defense in the league.

So you went from a 4-3 2-gap defense that was mediocre, to a 3-4 single gap defense that is elite. Not b/c you changed a goddam alignment, but b/c you changed the defensive philosophy.
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Boom. Add in some coverage philosophies, and this is all you need to know about what we're hoping to see from a Miami defense.
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This is what I was trying to say... Spot On...
 
LuCane said:
FullyERicht said:
3-4 or 4-3 is not the issue at all and people need to understand that.

What is significantly more important is the gap philosophy:

1 gap or 2 gap for the DL?

Spill or contain?

The irony is you have people on here dying for Leavitt bc he runs a 4-3.

But Leavitt's system requires more size and power. It is a "boxing the ball back" system, where the idea is to use power to force the ball inside. The Sam LB in his system needs to be a big strong dude well over 240 lbs. The 4-3 Leavitt runs is the exact version of the 4-3 that Dono uses when we ran single gap fronts.

Here's another example: the 2012-2014 Denver Broncos were a mediocre defense. They played Jack Del Rio's 2-gap 4-3. Essentially, the DTs were asked to be big powerful space eaters, responsible for 2 gaps. That Temple guy "Potroast" excelled in that system b/c it is a read and react philosophy from the interior DL.

Needless to say, that defense was completely average and downright bad at generating QB pressure.

Fast forward today, and Wade Phillips runs a 3-4 defense. But his defense is single gap, and so they dumped "Potroast", and the DL are now charged with getting up field off the snap. They are quick, fast, and they slant and stunt all over the place. B/C of their alignment, they are able to send 5 on every play if needed, no problem. Denver now boasts the top defense in the league.

So you went from a 4-3 2-gap defense that was mediocre, to a 3-4 single gap defense that is elite. Not b/c you changed a goddam alignment, but b/c you changed the defensive philosophy.
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Boom. Add in some coverage philosophies, and this is all you need to know about what we're hoping to see from a Miami defense.
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Funny You should mentions the attacking single gap 3-4... Below is a training camp report about the new Redskins Def Cord Parry scheme for 2015

"As far as the defensive schemes, Barry will have more of an attacking style of 3-4. You’ll see the difference along the line more than anything. Instead of Haslett’s version, where the nose tackle and ends lined up directly across from the center and guards in the base, and took on those blockers to free up the linebackers, Barry will have his linemen lined up over the gaps between those linemen so they’re positioned to try to get past those blockers and into the backfield. The linebackers are still flying into the backfield as well."

Very Simliar to Wade Philips Philosophy....
Maybe one of the reasons that they won the NFC east (yea yea I know the div stinks but someone had to win).
And Haslett (aka Al Golden) is out of a Job... again

If its him... Hopefully Olivadotti is closer to the Phillips/Parry way than Haslett/Golden way

JC
 
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The Franchise said:
If I'm going to the NFL for a DC I find a guy who has worked under Wade Phillips for awhile and can install Wade's system here. Wade's defenses are always nasty, fast, disrespectful and disruptive.

I don't think that guy gets enough love as the absolute defensive genius he is because he's old, low key and has failed as a HC. His defenses are absolutely tailor made for the speed and downhill athletes we have access to.
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You're spot on with this one. Phillips absolutely doesn't get the respect he deserves because he doesn't have a Buddy Ryan type of saltiness to offset his physical demeanor. The dude has looked like a resident of a retirement village that abuses all the local senior discounts for like the last 20 years. He knows defense though.
 
Tad Footeball said:
The Franchise said:
If I'm going to the NFL for a DC I find a guy who has worked under Wade Phillips for awhile and can install Wade's system here. Wade's defenses are always nasty, fast, disrespectful and disruptive.

I don't think that guy gets enough love as the absolute defensive genius he is because he's old, low key and has failed as a HC. His defenses are absolutely tailor made for the speed and downhill athletes we have access to.
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You're spot on with this one. Phillips absolutely doesn't get the respect he deserves because he doesn't have a Buddy Ryan type of saltiness to offset his physical demeanor. The dude has looked like a resident of a retirement village that abuses all the local senior discounts for like the last 20 years. He knows defense though.
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If he had Kiffin's hair all these faqcits would be worshipping him.
 
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