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The defense will be drastically improved this season

The expectation should be a much improved defense. We get that, and solid QB play this is a top 10-15 team.
 
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Consigliere said:
Here is/are the bottom line(s):

1.) The defense lost NO ONE of significance last season. This could be because the players who left SUCKED and/or because the development SUCKED, and

2.) The talent is getting older, more mature, more experienced and more developed (physically and mentally). Regardless of whether the scheme changes, none of the coaches teaching have changed (continuity I suppose).

In 2013 during ACC play, our defense allowed 262 actual points or 32.75 PPG. These numbers are utterly disgusting. This number MUST go south of 25.00 PPG. All is forgiven if they can keep points off the board especially when it matters during ACC play. I don't care how they do it, just keep points off the scoreboard. This is year 4 and Golden didn't want to make ANY changes to his staff. Even though I believe we have a big enough sample size to know what to expect in 2014, none of that matters for now.
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which is why he should be fired this year if things go as expected
 
RBhurricane87 said:
Hstokes1447 said:
RBhurricane87 said:
I expect a slight improvement, but I probably should know better than to get my hopes up like that.

On paper we improve, but schematically we remain the same.

I surely hope "more talent" equates to better on-field performance.
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What are the exact schematically issues you see?
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I don't claim to be an "X and Os" expert, but anyone with a set of eyes can see that there is clearly something wrong with our Defense.

So, when I say "we remain the same schematically" I mean that I don't expect anything from our defensive scheme to change this season.

The only things that are changing are some of the players.
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I'm far from an expert, but don't you think replacing 5 starters right up the middle in DT, lb and safety, with markedly better athleticism and talent, would make the defense a lot better?

As for the scheme, won a Super Bowl last year, and the 2 best defenses in the NFL use it.
You do need the horses to run it, and for the 1st time in 4 years, we finally have the athletes needed, and the depth.

The haters can blindly hate all they want, but they do it out of ignorance.
Judge the team this year, and then hate, although it might be difficult to heap crap on anybody but yourselves.
 
Who says Heurtelou and Wyche are markedly better than Porter, Robinson and Renfrow?

That's the hope, but it for sure isn't certain.
 
Great Post! I agree 100% with everything. Wyche is just a matter of learning the playbook. skill set it there. Hertoulua is probably needs improvement in both. Jamal Carter is my favorite right now. his attitude, speed, agression, and overall improvement has me excited. and better believe Crawford ready to hit somebody after the licking he took aganist Louisville.
 
LA'Cane818 said:
You site no true freshman in the two deep, but they could have easily played last year. Could they have done any worse? The staff lacks a killer instinct and it permeates the entire program. Case in point, the AD tweeting that EVEN the basketball team puts players into the league, after Swopes as picked up as an UFA? Seriously?Nevermind the fact that we are currently marred in one of the worst dry streaks of missing a player in the first round. This is a win to them? The program is a shell of itself, all the dumb videos and rationalizing you want to do will not change the fact that mediocrity is heralded in Coral Gables now.
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How dare you say all that....we are the academic National Champs
 
OP define "drastically" using numbers…not a bunch of subjective stuff and highlight videos. I'd like to see where they will fall in terms of production on the field in your opinion.
 
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There's enough talent to field a top 25 defense. Anything short of that should be deemed a failure.
 
i never thought our defensive scheme was a huge issue. it was about having and recruiting the right personnel that was an issue. i would also say that our coaches don't put enough of a priority on teaching our kids technique. its like what coach d said in one of those spring camp reports that he's not teaching his front seven different techniques bc he's worried about them just executing one technique. doesn't take that long to teach fundamentals was emphasis is put on it.
Hstokes1447 said:
RBhurricane87 said:
Hstokes1447 said:
RBhurricane87 said:
I expect a slight improvement, but I probably should know better than to get my hopes up like that.

On paper we improve, but schematically we remain the same.

I surely hope "more talent" equates to better on-field performance.
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What are the exact schematically issues you see?
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I don't claim to be an "X and Os" expert, but anyone with a set of eyes can see that there is clearly something wrong with our Defense.

So, when I say "we remain the same schematically" I mean that I don't expect anything from our defensive scheme to change this season.

The only things that are changing are some of the players.
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My thought is if the scheme calls for a guy to cover the flats but he is not fast enough to get there before the RB, how do you blame that on the scheme?

Or if the safety is supposed to be over the top but he takes a bad angle allowing the WR to get behind him for the easy score, how do you blame that on scheme?

Scheme is not the result in guys not making tackles, that is the result of bad football players. How many times did we see AJ get run over, around, or by? Scheme can not fix that only better FOOTBALL players can.
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NVA CANE said:
There's enough talent to field a top 25 defense. Anything short of that should be deemed a failure.
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Not on the most important unit on the field, the defensive line--especially DT. I'd trade/take Tyrone Cornelius over DP all day if you gave me Vince Wilfork over Olsen Pierre.

How many QB's, DT's, and DE's have we had drafted in the last seven-eight years…tells the whole story.
 
Bigtip said:
Hstokes1447 said:
RBhurricane87 said:
I expect a slight improvement, but I probably should know better than to get my hopes up like that.

On paper we improve, but schematically we remain the same.

I surely hope "more talent" equates to better on-field performance.
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What are the exact schematically issues you see?
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lets start with 275 lb DEs patrolling as OLBs covering slot WRs
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Every team that runs a 3 - 4 does this from time and time
 
I expect this to be a to be a top 40 defense and one that's starting to look like a UM by the end oftheseason.

Wyche is the wild card.
 
I think so and I am one of those that thinks the scheme and coaching sucks. We have way too much talent there for us not to be better than pretty much everyone but FSU on our schedule. My issue with the defense ie scheme and coaching is that while it should be sufficient enough to win us most of our games and the Coastal, I just dont see it being enough to carry us back to elite status. If we become a middle of the pack defense, it will be light years ahead of what we have been yet not good enough to where we want to be.
 
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Nice effort, but you're placing too much blame on the former players. Also, we didn't get push at the point of attack because we don't push - we dance - literally.

As UMArcher Cane said recently we've got to see better in-game adjustments to counter what's happening live.

I agree that our talent is getting better and that we SHOULD be much better as our defense last season could be mentioned with all-time bad UM defenses. Hard to imagine what worse would look like.

Again, I appreciate the effort - nice videos too.
 
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CyberCane said:
NVA CANE said:
There's enough talent to field a top 25 defense. Anything short of that should be deemed a failure.
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Not on the most important unit on the field, the defensive line--especially DT. I'd trade/take Tyrone Cornelius over DP all day if you gave me Vince Wilfork over Olsen Pierre.

How many QB's, DT's, and DE's have we had drafted in the last seven-eight years…tells the whole story.
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I agree about the DT position, there is still a big question mark there. On the other hand I do believe DE is there and we will see a very talented rotation this season.
 
I agree with the players will be an big improvement at every position, but our downfall will be not playing to our players strengths. If you take a look at the DEs will currently have and the ones we have brought in for the upcoming season in the right scheme they are lethal and would blossom. We should play to our strengths and hide our weaknesses. In the current scheme we run we set players up for failure and really don't allow players to play at their highest potential with the situations we place them in. This also can hurt a players potential draft stock.
 
We have one huge question mark, and that's at DT. Everywhere else we are solid or better. We need to catch lightning in a bottle with one of these guys. Problem with DT is we'll have no clue until they strap them on on labor Day.
 
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