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I still hold out hope. I hope that the bruhaha created LY when they left FSU out actually helps us and makes them hesitant not to move us up.


What..., I'm trying to think of everything I can here!
 
canesbaby said:
Wow, even the ACC is now helping us.

My optimism is moving slightly above zero.
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Han Solo Optimism GIF by Star Wars
 
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Yoyo423 said:
Bama should be #11 and forced to win the SECCG to get in.
We should be #9
ND #10
If our losses are "bad", Alabama's is "disqualifying".

They lost to an ACC bottom dweller.
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This. Bama doesn't get enough flack. They should be 11 right now. With an SECCG loss, they should be out. Our best case is Bama and BYU losing their CGs. That's our only path.
 
AUcane said:
This. Bama doesn't get enough flack. They should be 11 right now. With an SECCG loss, they should be out. Our best case is Bama and BYU losing their CGs. That's our only path.
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BYU, yes. You COULD make an argument that Bama beating UGA helps, because they would jump above ND and UGA wouldn't fall far, thus putting ND and Miami at 10 and 11. Can't spin the head to head there. Of course, the committee will just bump ND above Oklahoma to ***** us.

I don't get it. Miami draws a lot of eyeballs. Why would they not want them in over BYU or Oklahoma?
 
TriStarCane said:
I get it. But you are doing the same thing we are accusing the committee of doing: projecting outcomes. It should be based on resume, not what could happen later. Although the committee won’t give a single **** about that
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Isn't that what they did to us though? Basically banked on us losing in November in that initial poll.
 
I'll be the antagonist here. Through last week, Notre Dame did have the better resume. Was it close enough to where head to head should outweigh it? Obviously the committee didn't think so. But again, these are numbers from LAST WEEK, per Adam McClintock on Twitter, who I have mentioned several times on here as being the best I've ever seen at modeling the committee's rankings. He's been very, very good at it for over a decade. He is adamant that there is no "eye test", it's almost entirely data driven. And again, here are HIS NUMBERS....I have no idea what the committee uses, since so much of this is subjective. I don't think there's a definite "strength of schedule" metric, for example. Depending where you look, they're different. But again, here were his numbers, for last week:

SOS for Miami: 58
SOS for ND: 44

GC for Miami: 19.3
GC for ND: 24.0

Quality wins (I believe he defines this as teams over .500) for Miami: 3
Quality wins for ND: 5

Top 25 wins for Miami: 1
Top 25 wins for ND: 1

So, again, IF THESE ARE THE NUMBERS THEY'RE LOOKING AT, it makes sense to have ND ahead. The $1M question is, what do this past week's results do to this? He had Miami modeled at 12, and we were 12. He had ND modeled at 9, and they were 9. I do think if, somehow, we got literally next to each other, let's say ND dropped to 10 and Miami got to 11, then you make the head to head the differentiator. But apparently with 3 spots between them, the committee does not. So again, does Miami's SOS get equal to ND's with Miami playing an 8-3 Pitt and ND playing terrible Stanford? Does Miami's game control rise and get equal to NDs beating the **** out of Pitt and ND not covering against Stanford? Miami gets another quality win, ND does not. So, when you look at the 2 resumes this week, are they close enough to where you say "OK, these teams are just about the same, maybe ND is slightly higher, but Miami won, so we're going to push them ahead?"

Vegas obviously says no. We'll see what the committee says next week. But I think *THROUGH LAST WEEK* ND did have an argument that they should be ahead of Miami. But now that both resumes have the ink dried, with Miami beating Pitt even worse than ND did, are we at that point where it's close enough to make head-to-head the deciding factor? If Miami is still 12 tomorrow and ND is still 9, pack it in.
 
AUcane said:
This. Bama doesn't get enough flack. They should be 11 right now. With an SECCG loss, they should be out. Our best case is Bama and BYU losing their CGs. That's our only path.
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I keep hearing **** about our losses to Louisville and SMU. Not a SINGLE concern about losing to ******* FSU? Really??? The SEC propaganda machine working overtime to make everyone forget about that
 
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Calinative said:
It 100% should be:

9. Miami
10. Notre Dame
11. Alabama
12. BYU

But the committee is ******* retarded.

It would be perfect with Bama and BYU on outside looking in. Then Bama and BYU are in an in and win situation to knock ND and Miami out. Simple.

It EVEN BETTER IS

7. OU
8. Miami
9. Notre Dame
10. Ole Miss
11. Alabama
12. BYU

This would be PERFECT FOR EVERYONE
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It should actually be:
7. Miami
8. ND
9. OU
10. Bama
11. BYU
12. Ole Miss (no coaching staff)
 
CreativeCane said:
BYU, yes. You COULD make an argument that Bama beating UGA helps, because they would jump above ND and UGA wouldn't fall far, thus putting ND and Miami at 10 and 11. Can't spin the head to head there. Of course, the committee will just bump ND above Oklahoma to ***** us.

I don't get it. Miami draws a lot of eyeballs. Why would they not want them in over BYU or Oklahoma?
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That's the flip side of Bama winning the SECCG. I think the committee loves ND and are more likely to boot Bama out than ND but that's JMO. With either of those scenarios, though, BYU HAS to lose.
 
SCarolina Ibis said:
I hadn't considered this. But you might've nailed it..
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Its almost like a conflict of interest but it shouldn't be. Its the position the stupid conference has put themselves in though. Glad to see they posted one for us vs ND though.

He's just an interim but Reich/Stanford should get some sort of punishment for the clear shot he took at Miami because we "ran up the score" and was ****ed so he spoke so highly of ND in spite.

Idiotic conference can't get out of their own way. Eating eachother alive in the worst way... where the SEC blows eachother, the ACC kills itself hyping up other teams to take shots. A school that shouldn't even be here and should be thankful they got in.
 
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