Mr. Dynasty1
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Dugans was a good recruiter and the WRs weren’t coached up, outside of blocking.
Saban also wasn’t going to let him pick his own staff. And no we’re seeing why.
My conclusion is based in fact. The guy got fired by the only good program he’s worked for for being an abominable recruiter.Weird projection, Franchise. As I responded to you advocating for you and others not to jump to conclusions, you ask me to do it? Ha.
A few posts above you wrote basically anyone can be a WRs coach because the coaching doesn't matter. Something something Wiggins catching 100 balls but choking in games, right? The WR coach position is solely about recruiting, according to you. I didn't make anything up. I just think you went too far in the fun hyperbole you usually offer. Considering that stance and for this topic, there's no basis for any reasonable discussion between us.
So instead of hiring someone better qualified we are hiring friends.......this shlt again
So what’s the WR coach responsible for?
So because Dugans failed that means we need to hire an abominable recruiter who has done nothing of note in 15 years as a position coach?Dugans was a good recruiter and the WRs weren’t coached up, outside of blocking.
The Rumph point is actually right on the mark. Surprised you couldn’t grasp it.
I never talk about bag men being hired here because it’s stupid. There aren’t really bag men on P5 staffs anyway. The bag men are behind the scenes. LOL at the idea of big-time programs hiring guys who walk around with duffel bags handing cash to recruits.
You jump to too many conclusions trying to paint posters into the corner of your choice. That doesn’t work with someone as intelligent as The Legend. I never mentioned anything about having no room for more than one good technical coach. You’re making that up to try to prove something.
My point was a very easy one to grasp, and I’ll state it again. It was a garbage hire because the guy is a horrific recruiter. There are countless guys out there who can teach WRs the technical aspects of the position AND recruit like maniacs.
This guy got fired by Utah because he was absolute garbage as a recruiter. Wittingham, who is an experienced and accomplished football coach ran this dude out of town in a rail because he was a colossal failure. No one else wanted him. He’s been coaching WRs at Air Force where they don’t throw the ball and his **** recruiting didn’t matter.
We have no clue if he’s some sort of technical savant. Guys are assuming he is merely because he’s an abominable recruiter. But even if he is some sort of lab coat wizard, his garbage recruiting makes him useless and has led to a horrible career in coaching with one dead end gig after another.
So because Dugans failed that means we need to hire an abominable recruiter who has done nothing of note in 15 years as a position coach?
And how familiar is Rumphlefield with Enos’s current system anyway? You’d have to think we will see more of what Enos did at Alabaga than what he did at CMU. I don’t even think Rumphlefield was with him at Arkansas.Teaching the route tree that's told to him by the coordinator/hc. That goes for every position. From individual drills (where you repeat daily the steps that are part of your base and what you're doing for the upcoming opponent, to 7v7, unit, and team drills. A position coach can't just start telling his to do something that isn't inline with the coordinator, or it ***** up the play. He can teach a few things to help create separation that they may not know, but even those things have to be in-line with the OC, not to mess up the timing. Familiarity with the OCs system is why were bringing him in.
More true FR WRs/RBs play more than true freshman QBs and OL. WR/RB/TE are positions that you want to load up with guys who can recruit (doesn't mean they aren't technicians), which is why you see that from most powerhouse programs. WR and DB are normally the most talented positions in SFL and the most heavily recruited by outside schools. Stubblefield better be nuts about recruiting if he's going to compete for the local elites.
My conclusion is based in fact. The guy got fired by the only good program he’s worked for for being an abominable recruiter.
The product wasn’t great because the OC was the worst OC in football, and the offensive staff was toxic.No point is you got a guy who was touted as a recruiter and the product still wasn’t great
The locals are ****ed and consider a slap in the face. Hia brother that coaches at Southbridge, also didn't seem to happy on his Twitter. I thought Manny gave him a promotion? I gotta think this was an Ennos take vs giving job to Cooney View attachment 77355
Looks like a wasted hire to me. I’m sure he knows the same basics as any other competent WR coach. But he’s a proven dud.I would’ve liked an ace recruiter, but I’m okay with it if he’s a legitimate technician (which is still up for debate).
He’s got a roomful of 4-star WRs to work with.
As for recruiting, put Field and Cooney on the big dawgs, and let Stubblefield tag along.
...and devout failure like Stubblefield don’t deserve to be hired here.
The product wasn’t great because the OC was the worst OC in football, and the offensive staff was toxic.
I don't get what your argument is here. I didn't say it was or wasn't. I said I wouldn't make a blanket statement like that. As in, "WR coaches have to be recruiters." Couldn't all position coaches then be "primarily recruiting?"
Are some of you really saying WR is not a technical position? Weird fanbase. There were people in the Cooney thread *****ing about needing to hire more technical coaches. I guess it's a message board, so the common denominator is sometimes baseless shouting. By all means. Don't forget to click the ads, though.
And how familiar is Rumphlefield with Enos’s current system anyway? You’d have to think we will see more of what Enos did at Alabaga than what he did at CMU. I don’t even think Rumphlefield was with him at Arkansas.
I can think of a poster on CIS who would love to do that.Ohhhhhh, that is RICH. South Florida High School Corches want to talk about slaps in the face now?!
The term "Eat a ****" sounds appropriate here.
I can think of a poster on CIS who would love to do that.