Something we may see this week

[fincane]

The fact is, I'm not sure that there's anybody that posts here that is actually at the closed practices, other than the first few minutes they allow.

If I'm wrong, someone please correct me.

So the info we get, while appreciated, is not first hand. That works great for 99.99% of the info we need, but when something requires close attention and an appreciation of nuance, like watching QB's compete in a practice environment where there a lot going on st one time, it may not be enough.

Some people get to see practice. High school coaches, donors and special guests. I doubt they are there everyday. Anyone acting like they have a handle on anything at practice specifically QBs because of a couple of watches and secondhand reports from sources is pretty much someone you take with a grain of salt. Specifically the someones on this board.

 

[brock]

Whether you like it or not pete and dmoney are 2 of the 3 best cane insiders on the board. Brooklyn dee also posted he thinks it's perry job based on a conversation he had too

Brooklyndee also thought that WR Smith was a lock and he didn't even visit. He also said once that Michael Jackson was performing so poorly in practice that he wouldn't play that week because the coaches and his teammates were sick of him. Of course he played. Taking what they say as law is dumb.

Again they know more than you by far about the situation any situation pertaining to canes info period let's be real.

I understand. You have chosen to take everything they say as gospel. That is fine. I have chosen not to.

They swore last year that Rosier was garbage and Evan was better, but Rosier stayed the No. 2 all season.

Look, I want Perry to win the job because that means he came in with the goods as a freshman and we have a foundation at QB for the next three years. But this **** needs to be a competition. Nobody getting handed anything. This is the U and we don't hand out jobs to people because of their star rating. No way should Rosier, Sherrifs or Perry should be eliminated until they do something to eliminate themselves. Rosier throwing 3 TD's in the scrimmage is a big plus for him, and he should get another week in the mix.

If anybody should cut from the competiton it's Cade. It's august 13th right now, there is a lot of time for all of this to be settled between sherriffs, perry and rozier

 

[The Sphinx]

Apparently some of you guys know very little about football. Unlike LBs or any other position for that matter the QB who wins the job normally gets all of the reps thus keeping the better talent on the bench for mop up duty. Any other position you can stick the less experienced more talented guy out there and increase his reps as he matures the starting job. When speaking about the QB position some coaches tend to lean on going through the growing pains with a less seasoned more talented QB hoping that it will payoff in the long run with game experience.

Rosier and Sherriff's are what they are and wouldn't be starting for another top 20 program. Perry would be deemed the future in most of them. The two upperclassmen have both been on campus for years so they should be light years ahead of Perry and they're not. Perry gives us the best change of regaining our footing on the top of college football, period. Can you say the same thing for the other two? I can't!
It's as simple as that.

THIS.

In all reality, the fact that Perry is even being considered for a starting QB role tells you all that you need to know about Sherriffs and Rosier. It should not even be close at all. Especially not for a super green true Freshman QB just 2 months removed from high school. At this rate, can you imagine where Perry could be developmentally by November? By next Spring?

Whether you like it or not, Perry is the future. If he's not a success, then Richt has rolled the dice and failed, and the program will be set back a few years awaiting the next QB star to unfold.

Rosier's upside is considerably limited. He's a cannon-armed QB who can tuck it and run but has a high turnover penchant. He may know the playbook inside and out, but at the end of the day, he is who he is. Evan's just an all-around average QB with no spectacular traits. He won't lose you games, but he won't win you the big game, either.

As D Money said, Perry has some special skills. Something that none of the others mentioned have. You don't hand him a **** thing (FinCane), but for God's sake and the program's sake, YOU BETTER GIVE HIM ALL OF THE OPPORTUNITIES TO DEVELOP AND REACH THAT STAR POTENTIAL. Now if he fails and does not take full advantage of the opportunities given to him, oh well and so be it. But you MUST give this guy reps, and i'm not talking about scout team reps.

If you want a crack at the Natty in 2018 / 2019, then you better pray that Perry develops exponentially over the course of this season. Because if he doesn't and we have to rely on the other two QBs, then vying for the Coastal year in and year out will be our ceiling for the next few years.

 

[Caniac16]

Brooklyndee also thought that WR Smith was a lock and he didn't even visit. He also said once that Michael Jackson was performing so poorly in practice that he wouldn't play that week because the coaches and his teammates were sick of him. Of course he played. Taking what they say as law is dumb.

Again they know more than you by far about the situation any situation pertaining to canes info period let's be real.

I understand. You have chosen to take everything they say as gospel. That is fine. I have chosen not to.

They swore last year that Rosier was garbage and Evan was better, but Rosier stayed the No. 2 all season.

Look, I want Perry to win the job because that means he came in with the goods as a freshman and we have a foundation at QB for the next three years. But this **** needs to be a competition. Nobody getting handed anything. This is the U and we don't hand out jobs to people because of their star rating. No way should Rosier, Sherrifs or Perry should be eliminated until they do something to eliminate themselves. Rosier throwing 3 TD's in the scrimmage is a big plus for him, and he should get another week in the mix.

If anybody should cut from the competiton it's Cade. It's august 13th right now, there is a lot of time for all of this to be settled between sherriffs, perry and rozier

Uhhhh that's rather obvious. DMoney didn't mention Cade at all in the post. He said one of Sherrifs/Rosier would get cut and we all know he wants Rosier to be the one.

 

[cway313]

Rosier and Shirreffs out-performed Perry, by any measure, and out-performed him significantly. You're going to narrow it down to two positions, then it has to be those two guys.

They've had ten practices. Scrimmages are important but not the whole story.

Time to put the quarterback in there that gives us the best chance of winning this fūcking year.

The QB who gives us the best chance of winning Week 1 against Bethune Cookman may not be the same QB that gives us the best chance of winning the ACC in October and November.

**** i might be the best QB to win against BC.

 

[The Franchise]

Rosier throwing more picks than perry and sheriffs combined throughout fall camp is scary period... this is his 4th year here. There isn't any excuse for that

LOL

 

[grover]

I'd kick the can down the road a week and have full contact for Scrimmage 2.

Richt told his players their scrimmage performance would be a key determinant in who starts. He cannot follow up on that scrimmage, where Rosier and Shirreffs were dramatically better than Perry, by naming Perry the #2.

 

[Caniac16]

Apparently some of you guys know very little about football. Unlike LBs or any other position for that matter the QB who wins the job normally gets all of the reps thus keeping the better talent on the bench for mop up duty. Any other position you can stick the less experienced more talented guy out there and increase his reps as he matures the starting job. When speaking about the QB position some coaches tend to lean on going through the growing pains with a less seasoned more talented QB hoping that it will payoff in the long run with game experience.

Rosier and Sherriff's are what they are and wouldn't be starting for another top 20 program. Perry would be deemed the future in most of them. The two upperclassmen have both been on campus for years so they should be light years ahead of Perry and they're not. Perry gives us the best change of regaining our footing on the top of college football, period. Can you say the same thing for the other two? I can't!
It's as simple as that.

THIS.

In all reality, the fact that Perry is even being considered for a starting QB role tells you all that you need to know about Sherriffs and Rosier. It should not even be close at all. Especially not for a super green true Freshman QB just 2 months removed from high school. At this rate, can you imagine where Perry could be developmentally by November? By next Spring?

Whether you like it or not, Perry is the future. If he's not a success, then Richt has rolled the dice and failed, and the program will be set back a few years awaiting the next QB star to unfold.

Rosier's upside is considerably limited. He's a cannon-armed QB who can tuck it and run but has a high turnover penchant. He may know the playbook inside and out, but at the end of the day, he is who he is. Evan's just an all-around average QB with no spectacular traits. He won't lose you games, but he won't win you the big game, either.

As D Money said, Perry has some special skills. Something that none of the others mentioned have. You don't hand him a **** thing (FinCane), but for God's sake and the program's sake, YOU BETTER GIVE HIM ALL OF THE OPPORTUNITIES TO DEVELOP AND REACH THAT STAR POTENTIAL. Now if he fails and does not take full advantage of the opportunities given to him, oh well and so be it. But you MUST give this guy reps, and i'm not talking about scout team reps.

If you want a crack at the Natty in 2018 / 2019, then you better pray that Perry develops exponentially over the course of this season. Because if he doesn't and we have to rely on the other two QBs, then vying for the Coastal year in and year out will be our ceiling for the next few years.

My counter argument to this entire statement is Jameis Winston.

Everyone knew he was more talented than EJ Manuel. He redshirted. No game experience, came back and won the championship the next year.

Now no, Rosier and Sherrifs aren't EJ Manuel. But if Perry isn't ready this year than he just isn't ready.

 

[The Franchise]

The same people claiming Kaaya was Unitas are the same people trying to justify Perry based on closed practices.

And the same people who relentlessly bashed Kaaya are rallying behind a guy who couldn't even compete with Kaaya, much less beat him out. Think about that.

Keep pounding that goofy new mantra about running around in shorts being more significant in judging a QB than live game-like situations.

The scrimmage was non-contact, and Rosier and Shirreffs have one game of starting experience between them. These aren't battle-tested guys.

So you guys think Rick is goofy enough to think veteran QBs can't improve even though both Rosier and Shirreffs are playing much better than they did in the spring? Is this the "reading comprehension" we need to bone up on?

"The young guys are going to be better a week from now. Wherever they are now, a week from now they are going to be a lot better than they are today. The guys that have been around for a while, next week, how much more are they going to learn, how much more are they going to going to get better? They may get better, incrementally, but the young guys ought to get a bigger improvement because they are getting more comfortable in the system, more reps in the system."

- Mark Richt, yesterday

The older guys can get better. Rosier has barely played, and Evan has never played. But Richt is not going to have much more information on those two by the end next week. I strongly suspect he knows who he prefers among those two. Which is why it makes sense to (quietly) make a decision and give reps to the guy who needs them.

So Rick's quote is nothing like what you originally inferred from it. Of course, the young guys will learn and improve at a faster rate than the vets because they have more to learn. Notice also that he said "young guys," not "young guy."

 

[frostycane]

I think this actually really funny. Shannon attached himself to Jacory and paid the price for it. Golden attached himself to kaaya and it also cost him his job. It just seems creepy that Richt is about to do the same with Perry. Hope it finally pays off. I don't know enough about the situation to truly form an opinion, but I personally liked what I saw from Rosier. I think making it a two horse race between Rosier and Perry would make the most sense. Seems like they have similar skills and both fit our offense well. Sorry Evan. Maybe Richt can help him transfer somewhere to play

 

[LuCane]

It's funny Perry has bad stats in the scrimmage and then all of a sudden he is being greatly outperformed by the other 2 quarterbacks. Forget about the countless practices, lets take him out of the race because of 1 scrimmage, not to mention his first college scrimmage. Richt specifically said most of the touchdowns from the upperclassman where during situationals like red-zone and with the 1st team offense.

It is clear that from people who have been to practice, like DMoney and Peter, that Perry is the most talented, he just got here a couple months ago so in the mental aspect and plays, he is behind.

I agree with DMoney that this will become a 2 man race this week and Perry will be one of them. That does not mean he is going to win the job, he will be behind whoever is the upperclassman, but since what he needs to improve can be taught for the most part (plays and reads) he needs meaningful reps.

LOL. You guys are insane. You're so thirsty for a great QB that you want to falsely engineer the QB competition and run the risk of losing the team by handing the upper hand to the guy who performed the worst.

Now, in an attempt to justify this tomfoolery you're jumping on some bogus new agenda that Perry is winning in shorts so that's more important than winning against live bullets in a game-like situation. Lulz.

Keep it flowing, fellas. This is rich.

This is basically where I am. And, D$ and I went into a substantial back and forth yesterday on the subject. My best suggestion yesterday on this board was to cut the QB competition to 3 guys for the next week and avoid rushing into a decision. Cutting it to two is more likely what we need, but doing so on anything other than performance (assuming Perry is currently #3 ) is unnecessary risk for all parties - including Perry.

Here's what we mostly know:
- Perry is most likely the more gifted passer among the entire group.
- It's not surprising Perry isn't ready 10 days into his first Fall camp without an EE.
- The other guys seem to be the more likely to be effective right now.
- Perry has the upside to make leaps over the next few weeks.
- Everyone wants the most talented guy to be the most likely to be effective, but it may not be reality right now.
- I think it's a false opinion to think the other two have somehow hit their ceiling as to what they can produce for our team.
- Given the BCC game is ostensibly scrimmage and the tricky situation with Malik and Evan still apparently slightly ahead of Perry, why the rush to cut down to two this week?
- Why can't Perry be worked in for packages and prove his worth through production as the season unfolds?

Program over players. Always.

 

[Jonnyblaze]

Funmy how a lot of people that swore Perry would be the day 1 starter are back pedaling now. I think Perry is the truth, but being the most physically gifted QB on the roster doesn't make you the best option right now.

 

[reef1515]

Personal preference is totally irrelevant.

Performance is the ultimate measure.

Rosier and Shirreffs out-performed Perry, by any measure, and out-performed him significantly. You're going to narrow it down to two positions, then it has to be those two guys.

Give Perry another chance at the next scrimmage. If he can't perform there, in a controlled environment, how is he expected to perform vs 4 and five star D1 college athletes that are getting after him in a real game?

He may just simply not be ready because of not enough time. I've always said, Perry should've enrolled in the spring. But he didn't, and time ran out.

Time to put the quarterback in there that gives us the best chance of winning this fūcking year.

Agree, more likely Evan getting most 1st team reps., with Perry gong to scout.

 

[the storm]

So how much of the playbook has Perry absorbed? All of the talk about him "being ready" doesn't mean squat. How ready could he possibly be since he only arrived 3 mos ago? Richt said that the youngsters were a bit lost out there on Sat.

Richt aint dripping shirreffs or rosier yet. Maybe he cuts weldon and testaverde reps. But folks need to wrap their mind around perry may not be ready. Dont tell me about november. There are a lot of games before then. This may end up with perry getting some packages for experience during the season, but i would be very surprised if he starts out as the starter. How he progresses is unknowable at this point. Strong arm and toght spiral are nice, but you have to know the offense, make the right decisions and avoid mistakes.

 

[the storm]

B.S.

It's well known Richt want Perry to Start. A big reason why? He can sell Perry to the fanbase. Fans love freshmen that can come in and compete for the starting job. You can't sell Rosier or Sheriffs to the fans, since they've been on campus previously. At the same time, if Perry isn't ready, find the guy you want between the upperclassmen for the quarterback position. I think it'll be a very tight race and whoever Richt name, I'll be ready to ride with him.

 

[Angry Ibis]

It's funny Perry has bad stats in the scrimmage and then all of a sudden he is being greatly outperformed by the other 2 quarterbacks. Forget about the countless practices, lets take him out of the race because of 1 scrimmage, not to mention his first college scrimmage. Richt specifically said most of the touchdowns from the upperclassman where during situationals like red-zone and with the 1st team offense.

It is clear that from people who have been to practice, like DMoney and Peter, that Perry is the most talented, he just got here a couple months ago so in the mental aspect and plays, he is behind.

I agree with DMoney that this will become a 2 man race this week and Perry will be one of them. That does not mean he is going to win the job, he will be behind whoever is the upperclassman, but since what he needs to improve can be taught for the most part (plays and reads) he needs meaningful reps.

LOL. You guys are insane. You're so thirsty for a great QB that you want to falsely engineer the QB competition and run the risk of losing the team by handing the upper hand to the guy who performed the worst.

Now, in an attempt to justify this tomfoolery you're jumping on some bogus new agenda that Perry is winning in shorts so that's more important than winning against live bullets in a game-like situation. Lulz.

Keep it flowing, fellas. This is rich.

This is basically where I am. And, D$ and I went into a substantial back and forth yesterday on the subject. My best suggestion yesterday on this board was to cut the QB competition to 3 guys for the next week and avoid rushing into a decision. Cutting it to two is more likely what we need, but doing so on anything other than performance (assuming Perry is currently #3 ) is unnecessary risk for all parties - including Perry.

Here's what we mostly know:
- Perry is most likely the more gifted passer among the entire group.
- It's not surprising Perry isn't ready 10 days into his first Fall camp without an EE.
- The other guys seem to be the more likely to be effective right now.
- Perry has the upside to make leaps over the next few weeks.
- Everyone wants the most talented guy to be the most likely to be effective, but it may not be reality right now.
- I think it's a false opinion to think the other two have somehow hit their ceiling as to what they can produce for our team.
- Given the BCC game is ostensibly scrimmage and the tricky situation with Malik and Evan still apparently slightly ahead of Perry, why the rush to cut down to two this week?
- Why can't Perry be worked in for packages and prove his worth through production as the season unfolds?

Program over players. Always.

I'm buying what you're selling.

 

[The Franchise]

It's funny Perry has bad stats in the scrimmage and then all of a sudden he is being greatly outperformed by the other 2 quarterbacks. Forget about the countless practices, lets take him out of the race because of 1 scrimmage, not to mention his first college scrimmage. Richt specifically said most of the touchdowns from the upperclassman where during situationals like red-zone and with the 1st team offense.

It is clear that from people who have been to practice, like DMoney and Peter, that Perry is the most talented, he just got here a couple months ago so in the mental aspect and plays, he is behind.

I agree with DMoney that this will become a 2 man race this week and Perry will be one of them. That does not mean he is going to win the job, he will be behind whoever is the upperclassman, but since what he needs to improve can be taught for the most part (plays and reads) he needs meaningful reps.

LOL. You guys are insane. You're so thirsty for a great QB that you want to falsely engineer the QB competition and run the risk of losing the team by handing the upper hand to the guy who performed the worst.

Now, in an attempt to justify this tomfoolery you're jumping on some bogus new agenda that Perry is winning in shorts so that's more important than winning against live bullets in a game-like situation. Lulz.

Keep it flowing, fellas. This is rich.

This is basically where I am. And, D$ and I went into a substantial back and forth yesterday on the subject. My best suggestion yesterday on this board was to cut the QB competition to 3 guys for the next week and avoid rushing into a decision. Cutting it to two is more likely what we need, but doing so on anything other than performance (assuming Perry is currently #3 ) is unnecessary risk for all parties - including Perry.

Here's what we mostly know:
- Perry is most likely the more gifted passer among the entire group.
- It's not surprising Perry isn't ready 10 days into his first Fall camp without an EE.
- The other guys seem to be the more likely to be effective right now.
- Perry has the upside to make leaps over the next few weeks.
- Everyone wants the most talented guy to be the most likely to be effective, but it may not be reality right now.
- I think it's a false opinion to think the other two have somehow hit their ceiling as to what they can produce for our team.
- Given the BCC game is ostensibly scrimmage and the tricky situation with Malik and Evan still apparently slightly ahead of Perry, why the rush to cut down to two this week?
- Why can't Perry be worked in for packages and prove his worth through production as the season unfolds?

Program over players. Always.

Yep.

People act like we're doomed to the pits of **** if Rosier starts. He's a better QB than Blake Sims, and look what they managed to do with him a few years ago.

The dude was a RB at Alabaga prior to being their starter. And they made him an effective steward of their offense. Certainly, there were more "talented" QBs on that roster than Sims.

 

[DMoney]

- Given the BCC game is ostensibly scrimmage and the tricky situation with Malik and Evan still apparently slightly ahead of Perry, why the rush to cut down to two this week?

My fear was always that Perry would take over later in the season and miss out on valuable reps against the crappy defenses in the early part of our schedule. That's where the urgency comes in.

Cutting it down to three is an improvement over four, but I don't see what Richt is going to learn about Rosier and Shirreffs that he doesn't already know. I'd be shocked if he doesn't already have a preference between those two.

 

[CaneSince4Ever]

I think this actually really funny. Shannon attached himself to Jacory and paid the price for it. Golden attached himself to kaaya and it also cost him his job. It just seems creepy that Richt is about to do the same with Perry.

LOL...exactly.

Judging from Richt's history, He's never attached Himself to a true frosh QB.

And all this talk about "If Perry was an EE" is bogus...Stafford was an EE, and Richt still didn't hand em' the keys.

Although I do think Richt would've handed Eason the keys if He stayed at UGA, but UGA's QB situation was a dumpster fire.

 

[CaneSince4Ever]

Cutting it down to three is an improvement over four, but I don't see what Richt is going to learn about Rosier and Shirreffs that he doesn't already know. I'd be shocked if he doesn't already have a preference between those two.

LOL...vs talented true freshmen, Richt's handed the keys to much worse veteran QBs than Rosier & Shirreffs (Terishinski & Cox).