Something we may see this week

[The Franchise]

"The plan," if Rick isn't braindead, should be to play the QB he thinks we can win the most games with. It should have nothing to do with making Perry the starter later in the season.

And the QB who gives us the best chance to win in September may not be the same guy as in November.

I trust Richt to make the right decision. But it's a tough spot to be in.

It's not that tough. Play the best guy now because there are no gimmies outside of BCC to start the year. If someone falters or loses confidence then go with the next guy.

This assumption that only Perry can improve over the course of a season is fallacy. Rosier or Shirreffs can also hone their game early and get better just like they have between spring and fall.

 

[KevinCaneFace]

We have no QB right now. Could be a rough year on offense.

Richt has stated he's confident in all 4, watch his interview

What's he supposed to say. None of my QBs are ready to lead this team to the ACC championship? Take off your orange and green glasses. We are in a bad spot at QB.

No, we were in a bad spot when our QB room was Ryan Williams, Jake Heaps, and Freshmen Brad Kaaya. Those guys were on a team that they had to play at an extremely high level to win. We have already won with Rosier and can win with any of these guys. Even if they are just serviceable we can win in double digits

 

[ILCane2011]

"The plan," if Rick isn't braindead, should be to play the QB he thinks we can win the most games with. It should have nothing to do with making Perry the starter later in the season.

And the QB who gives us the best chance to win in September may not be the same guy as in November.

I trust Richt to make the right decision. But it's a tough spot to be in.

It's not that tough. Play the best guy now because there are no gimmies outside of BCC to start the year. If someone falters or loses confidence then go with the next guy.

This assumption that only Perry can improve over the course of a season is fallacy. Rosier or Shirreffs can also hone their game early and get better just like they have between spring and fall.

Thank you.

It's just bizarre that dmoney and some other posters think only Perry can improve. Whoever starts between Rosier and Sherrifs will also be able to get better, as both have been since Spring

 

[The Franchise]

If we put Perry under center this season, we are essentially playing for next year, because never in the history of college football have we seen a true freshman QB, in a sophisticated passing attack go gangbusters.

Except for our last one, who led the ACC in passing and passer rating.

... and how many games did we win? It has NEVER happened that a true freshman, non-early enrolling passing QB, has ever done any serious winning, like what is expected this year, around 10 wins. NEVER.

But he might be able to pad up some decent stats against the bad teams on his way to leading us to a 7-6 record and then the Perry fans can find some other unit of the team to blame for us only winning 7 games. Lather. Rinse. Repeat.

 

[fincane]

Except for our last one, who led the ACC in passing and passer rating.

That team went 6-7

Kaaya had a good freshman season. But we absolutely have seen it at clemson with Watson his freshman season

Deshaun Watson didn't start the year and didn't win 10 games and got hurt. He also only started 6 games his freshman year. Lets just leave out that Watson was one of the best college QBs of all time. Unless you're predicting Perry will be one of the best college QBs to ever play bringing up Watson is asinine.

I said nothing about Watson starting out the gate as a freshman..... Watson absolute did go off his freshman year with 67.8% 14 touchdowns 2 ints 188.2 rating in a season he was hurt for a chunk of the season

He threw six TDs in one game against UNC. Threw 3 more against South Carolina State and two more against South Carolina. That is 11 TDs against the 120th ranked D, the 94th ranked D and a FCS school. Watson had a good year but sometimes numbers lie. Much like Kaaya's freshman year.

 

[The Svengali]

From Richts comments today, it seems like Perry's confidence is shaken from a subpar scrimmage performance. Hard to think this kids game can mature enough to lead us into Doak in a month...

Very telling sign indeed. It isn't about failure, it is how you respond to failure. Failure will occur many times over again.

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Perry's confidence seems shaken after a single scrimmage in a controlled environment, yet there are guys that want to send this kid into Doak as our starting QB?!? Doak at night?!?! C'mon man!

 

[The Svengali]

That team went 6-7

Kaaya had a good freshman season. But we absolutely have seen it at clemson with Watson his freshman season

Deshaun Watson didn't start the year and didn't win 10 games and got hurt. He also only started 6 games his freshman year. Lets just leave out that Watson was one of the best college QBs of all time. Unless you're predicting Perry will be one of the best college QBs to ever play bringing up Watson is asinine.

I said nothing about Watson starting out the gate as a freshman..... Watson absolute did go off his freshman year with 67.8% 14 touchdowns 2 ints 188.2 rating in a season he was hurt for a chunk of the season

He threw six TDs in one game against UNC. Threw 3 more against South Carolina State and two more against South Carolina. That is 11 TDs against the 120th ranked D, the 94th ranked D and a FCS school. Watson had a good year but sometimes numbers lie. Much like Kaaya's freshman year.

Adding to this, Deshaun Watson was an early enrollee

 

[kryptonite]

"The plan," if Rick isn't braindead, should be to play the QB he thinks we can win the most games with. It should have nothing to do with making Perry the starter later in the season.

And the QB who gives us the best chance to win in September may not be the same guy as in November.

I trust Richt to make the right decision. But it's a tough spot to be in.

It's not that tough. Play the best guy now because there are no gimmies outside of BCC to start the year. If someone falters or loses confidence then go with the next guy.

This assumption that only Perry can improve over the course of a season is fallacy. Rosier or Shirreffs can also hone their game early and get better just like they have between spring and fall.

I hope that Richt isn't going to give the job to Perry because he thinks he'll be better down the line or because Perry is his guy. Richt's job is to win the next game, so he better play whoever looks best right now. If Perry looks better next week or next month fine, but you don't stack the deck for him because you're tied to your evaluation.

 

[brock]

"The plan," if Rick isn't braindead, should be to play the QB he thinks we can win the most games with. It should have nothing to do with making Perry the starter later in the season.

And the QB who gives us the best chance to win in September may not be the same guy as in November.

I trust Richt to make the right decision. But it's a tough spot to be in.

It's not that tough. Play the best guy now because there are no gimmies outside of BCC to start the year. If someone falters or loses confidence then go with the next guy.

This assumption that only Perry can improve over the course of a season is fallacy. Rosier or Shirreffs can also hone their game early and get better just like they have between spring and fall.

I hope that Richt isn't going to give the job to Perry because he thinks he'll be better down the line or because Perry is his guy. Richt's job is to win the next game, so he better play whoever looks best right now. If Perry looks better next week or next month fine, but you don't stack the deck for him because you're tied to your evaluation.

When has richt ever done that?

 

[kryptonite]

"The plan," if Rick isn't braindead, should be to play the QB he thinks we can win the most games with. It should have nothing to do with making Perry the starter later in the season.

And the QB who gives us the best chance to win in September may not be the same guy as in November.

I trust Richt to make the right decision. But it's a tough spot to be in.

It's not that tough. Play the best guy now because there are no gimmies outside of BCC to start the year. If someone falters or loses confidence then go with the next guy.

This assumption that only Perry can improve over the course of a season is fallacy. Rosier or Shirreffs can also hone their game early and get better just like they have between spring and fall.

I hope that Richt isn't going to give the job to Perry because he thinks he'll be better down the line or because Perry is his guy. Richt's job is to win the next game, so he better play whoever looks best right now. If Perry looks better next week or next month fine, but you don't stack the deck for him because you're tied to your evaluation.

When has richt ever done that?

Hopefully never, but Dmoney thinks he should do it now.

 

[DMoney]

Hopefully never, but Dmoney thinks he should do it now.

Read the OP. If Perry isn't ready, Richt can't - and shouldn't - play him.

But I'd be giving him every chance to get ready, because the early season schedule is so favorable. The nightmare scenario is that Evan/Rosier wins the job, loses to FSU, cruises against the bad defenses we play in the first eight games, and then gets exposed in the meat of the ACC schedule. It would be more difficult to throw Perry into that gauntlet without experience.

 

[rsa coral gables]

Hopefully never, but Dmoney thinks he should do it now.

Read the OP. If Perry isn't ready, Richt can't - and shouldn't - play him.

But I'd be giving him every chance to get ready, because the early season schedule is so favorable. The nightmare scenario is that Evan/Rosier wins the job, loses to FSU, cruises against the bad defenses we play in the first eight games, and then gets exposed in the meat of the ACC schedule. It would be more difficult to throw Perry into that gauntlet without experience.

man, you are too rigid in your thinking. it is not one or the other. if we play rosier or sheriffs early, it does not mean that perry won't be given some snaps here and there in order to get ready for the meat of the schedule. ****, it could be rosier and then sheriffs overtaking him or the opposite and then perry. god knows.

 

[kryptonite]

Hopefully never, but Dmoney thinks he should do it now.

Read the OP. If Perry isn't ready, Richt can't - and shouldn't - play him.

But I'd be giving him every chance to get ready, because the early season schedule is so favorable. The nightmare scenario is that Evan/Rosier wins the job, loses to FSU, cruises against the bad defenses we play in the first eight games, and then gets exposed in the meat of the ACC schedule. It would be more difficult to throw Perry into that gauntlet without experience.

I don't disagree with everything here, but you shouldn't eliminate one of the top 2 so that #3 can have an easier time. I guess you could do that if you think the season is a bust already and you just want Perry to get game experience for next year.

My problem here is that you and others are so sure that Perry's going to be a star that you're ready to ignore how he actually performs. I don't agree with picking winners and losers, the players should sort that out on the field.

 

[The Svengali]

Hopefully never, but Dmoney thinks he should do it now.

Read the OP. If Perry isn't ready, Richt can't - and shouldn't - play him.

But I'd be giving him every chance to get ready, because the early season schedule is so favorable. The nightmare scenario is that Evan/Rosier wins the job, loses to FSU, cruises against the bad defenses we play in the first eight games, and then gets exposed in the meat of the ACC schedule. It would be more difficult to throw Perry into that gauntlet without experience.

Call me an optimist, but I think Rosier or Evan can and will get it done this season.

 

[kryptonite]

With this D we can do a lot of winning with Dilfer, we don't need Brady. Brady would be great, but we can get by without him. If Perry can't win the job, let him sit and learn until he can.

 

[The Franchise]

The logic is Blake Sims was a good RB, so that completely debunks the thought that there were more talented QBs on Alabaga's roster when he got the starting job and let them to a great season as a QB.

Who is Alabama's single-season passing leader?

Sims was such a great QB that he was playing RB or WR at Alabaga and didn't see the field until his last season.

There was a dude about 12 years ago who set every passing record in CA, which has a much richer history of producing QBs than the state of Alabaga. I think his name was David Kolor or something like that. He wound up somewhere (maybe it was FSU) as a walk on and never played.

Don't tell me about Sims' HS exploits in QB depleted Alabaga. What was he doing as a college player at Alabaga? Were there more "talented" QBs on the Alabaga roster when he took the starting job as a senior?

 

[ILCane2011]

Hopefully never, but Dmoney thinks he should do it now.

Read the OP. If Perry isn't ready, Richt can't - and shouldn't - play him.

But I'd be giving him every chance to get ready, because the early season schedule is so favorable. The nightmare scenario is that Evan/Rosier wins the job, loses to FSU, cruises against the bad defenses we play in the first eight games, and then gets exposed in the meat of the ACC schedule. It would be more difficult to throw Perry into that gauntlet without experience.

What "meat of the ACC schedule"?

The only elite defenses we play are FSU and VT. There's not some stretch late in the year where we play multiple good defenses in a row (ND's defense is weak, same with Pitt).

It's like you keep inventing new excuses to play Perry, even if he's not ready. Richt himself said today his best two options are Rosier/Sherrifs. There really isn't a point in arguing with you if you can't accept the reality of the situation

 

[DMoney]

The logic is Blake Sims was a good RB, so that completely debunks the thought that there were more talented QBs on Alabaga's roster when he got the starting job and let them to a great season as a QB.

Who is Alabama's single-season passing leader?

Sims was such a great QB that he was playing RB or WR at Alabaga and didn't see the field until his last season.

There was a dude about 12 years ago who set every passing record in CA, which has a much richer history of producing QBs than the state of Alabaga. I think his name was David Kolor or something like that. He wound up somewhere (maybe it was FSU) as a walk on and never played.

Don't tell me about Sims' HS exploits I. QB depleted Alabaga. What was he doing as a college player at Alabaga? Were there more "talented" QBs on the Alabaga roster when he took the starting job as a senior?

He is the University of Alabama's single-season passing leader. He's from Georgia.

 

[wacane]

Hopefully never, but Dmoney thinks he should do it now.

Read the OP. If Perry isn't ready, Richt can't - and shouldn't - play him.

But I'd be giving him every chance to get ready, because the early season schedule is so favorable. The nightmare scenario is that Evan/Rosier wins the job, loses to FSU, cruises against the bad defenses we play in the first eight games, and then gets exposed in the meat of the ACC schedule. It would be more difficult to throw Perry into that gauntlet without experience.

Call me an optimist, but I think Rosier or Evan can and will get it done this season.

It's a **** shame kaaya left. People are going to be so upset when they see how limited Malik and evan are. The offense is going to be bad. Real defenses will know we can't throw the ball consistently. The best case is Perry gets some early burn and is ready to take over mid season

 

[The Franchise]

Sims wasn't an elite QB recruit which is really what matters in this argument and he was a low 4-star athlete. Not exactly an elite recruit by any standard.

He was a four-star with offers from Alabama, Georgia and Florida State. He broke Alabama's single-season passing record as a senior. There is no comparison between him and our guys, at least at this point.

That idea of yours probably has something to do with the ledge you've stepped out on and that ranting on Pete's podcast.

You care more about my takes than I do. That's evident by your sad and obsessive posting history, going back years.

"Don't pay attention to DMoney's practice takes, it's all fluff."- fincane

"Can you believe what DMoney said at 23:34 of his latest podcast?!" -fincane

Actually, I shouldn't have said that. Please keep clicking, listening, and obsessing.

Did he have offers to play QBs from those schools? And the same things you're saying about these guys were being said about Sims. You're playing the result.

As far as obsessions it is more that I remember people saying dumb crap. When you say dumb crap it resonates because it usually turns into a long thread.

Ironic, this thread turned when you posted and made it personal about D$.

Some posters around here want to be in the "club" so bad that they think disproving or going at one of the most solid posters will earn them that.

Lots of jelly around here....

Looks like a pretty **** good conversation to me. Why are you guys trying to turn it into something negative? D$ is an absolute champion. But we can discuss and disagree with his opinions.