Some Info for you guys:

[OldhamA]

I dont know too much about buy outs and such, but can boosters or another university that wants him buy his contract out?

He finished 6-6 in the ACC Coastal with 10 NFL draft eligible players on the roster. What other university would want him?!

 

[nyibis]

It seemed like only yesterday that I read Mrs. Golden loves Coral Gables and wouldn't want to live anywhere else, including Pennsylvania.

I'm thinking that this hamster wheel is a big concern for the AD. He might like to have Golden, poster boy, learn on the job and become the coach they had hoped for. Of course that would require surrounding him with qualified assistants in every aspect of football.

Golden's salary at 2.? million is way below the 3.5 +- million SEC average which includes Saban at 7.? million. Just read these figures in the local paper and forget the exact amounts.
What kind of elite coach would work here for less than the 3.5 million? Nobody here has a clue at who that person is.

We all love Canes football so let's hope we have some good leadership willing to buy what is needed to get thru this.

It appears that the new face of the U is the basketball program. Makes a lot of sense on many fronts.
On campus arena, great for student participation, lower budget and ACC /tv money. I don't see a downside except it's not football.

We need a big change and there is no easy solution in sight. Sometimes you just have to fight thru the bad times to get thru the good times.
Oh yea, everyone would be better served without the death threats, personal attacks and name calling. It really is more like what we expect from UF and FSU fans.

GO CANES!!!! always

 

[SFbayCane]

I have to wonder if Golden's wife would be happier in a lovely place like Lincoln, Nebraska.

 

[CaneInHeelCountry]

?? Tell you about coaches who got 5 years? There's too many to name.

Point is that there are very few coaches who were fired before 5 years without a losing season or some controversy.

Kifffin was constantly embroiled in little controversies while at USC. He butted heads continually with Pat Haden, who hated him.

Mushcamp? Had a losing season and butted heads with admin.

Pretty much any other coach I can think of that was fired before a fifth year (Turner Gill, Charlie Weis, Bob Davie, Schnellenberger while he was at OU, go down the list....) all had either sat least one losing season or some sort of controversy.

Original quote: Name me a coach that was fired before year 5 without a losing season or major controversy.

Lane Kiffin. He was fired because he sucked and USC has/had real SANCTIONS (REAL UNLIKE OURS).

Will Muschamp actually had success (11 wins and Sugar Bowl), but he was fired.

Al Golden has had NO success. He doesn't deserve a fifth year. Coaches at real programs get fired and are not given 5 years especially when in year 4 you have the same record as year 1. How about the Penn State Controversy?

Will Muschamp also had a losing season...which was the whole ****ing point.

What about the "PSU controversy?" That was only controversy to fans...no media ****storm, unlike Kiffin at USC or any other major controversy.

Golden hasn't had a losing season--although it sure as **** feels like he has.

Muschamp did more then Golden. Call me when Al wins 11 games or goes to a BCS bowl.

Nobody gets 5 years at good programs with the track record Al has had. You made this up, we wait for all these coaches.

Michigan, USC and UF all cut ties without a fifth year. You're wrong. There is no good program that would tolerate this performance. Even RS was shown the door after 4 years with the almost identical record overall and a better record in year 4. Golden has done nothing. Deserves nothing either.

Dude, you're making my case for me.

Muschamp--losing season.
Kiffin-controvery (Pat Haden hated him for his constant shenanigans)
RichRod at Michigan - losing season
Hoke at Michigan - Losing season AND controversy


I'm not happy about it, but Golden has been a good "face" for the university, has stayed out of the headlines and away from controversy...and he hasn't had a losing season. It's standard for guys like him to get 5 years.

 

[The Franchise]

Who would ever hire this guy right now? His luster is gone nation wide

No-one, which is why waiting for him to get another gig is delusional.

Best we can hope for is that they sack up and fire him. If they don't have the balls, then they should work out a resignation/payoff fir a reduced rate. Folden can then blame it on family health issues and not look like a quitter.

Then he can work as the 8th team analyst on ESPN 3 for a year or two and then get back into corching.

 

[Era66]

Any one else heart broken that Kelly Golden dislikes Miami? I'm all busted up about that.

When she first got here she loved Miami, now that the heat is on because her husband sucks as a coach she wants out.

 

[F-MarioCristobal]

?? Tell you about coaches who got 5 years? There's too many to name.

Point is that there are very few coaches who were fired before 5 years without a losing season or some controversy.

Kifffin was constantly embroiled in little controversies while at USC. He butted heads continually with Pat Haden, who hated him.

Mushcamp? Had a losing season and butted heads with admin.

Pretty much any other coach I can think of that was fired before a fifth year (Turner Gill, Charlie Weis, Bob Davie, Schnellenberger while he was at OU, go down the list....) all had either sat least one losing season or some sort of controversy.

Original quote: Name me a coach that was fired before year 5 without a losing season or major controversy.

Lane Kiffin. He was fired because he sucked and USC has/had real SANCTIONS (REAL UNLIKE OURS).

Will Muschamp actually had success (11 wins and Sugar Bowl), but he was fired.

Al Golden has had NO success. He doesn't deserve a fifth year. Coaches at real programs get fired and are not given 5 years especially when in year 4 you have the same record as year 1. How about the Penn State Controversy?

Will Muschamp also had a losing season...which was the whole ****ing point.

What about the "PSU controversy?" That was only controversy to fans...no media ****storm, unlike Kiffin at USC or any other major controversy.

Golden hasn't had a losing season--although it sure as **** feels like he has.

Muschamp did more then Golden. Call me when Al wins 11 games or goes to a BCS bowl.

Nobody gets 5 years at good programs with the track record Al has had. You made this up, we wait for all these coaches.

Michigan, USC and UF all cut ties without a fifth year. You're wrong. There is no good program that would tolerate this performance. Even RS was shown the door after 4 years with the almost identical record overall and a better record in year 4. Golden has done nothing. Deserves nothing either.

Dude, you're making my case for me.

Muschamp--losing season.
Kiffin-controvery (Pat Haden hated him for his constant shenanigans)
RichRod at Michigan - losing season
Hoke at Michigan - Losing season AND controversy


I'm not happy about it, but Golden has been a good "face" for the university, has stayed out of the headlines and away from controversy...and he hasn't had a losing season. It's standard for guys like him to get 5 years.

Had we went 5-7 this year... i promise you Golden was gone and i firmly believe a losing season will do it. A loss in the bowl game ends Al Golden. It will be just like Rich Rod, he was actually trending up, had good recruits then fell off.. looked liked he way staying, lost the bowl game and then he was gone.

 

[agonza1pr]

UM has the money, tons of money! stop believing the crap being feeding to us. Just look around campus, look at the acquisitions, the Health Systems, etc. What they don't have is the will to spend it on Football. They were paying Coker 4 million one tiime! They still have the mentality of low risk (money) high rewards and they hit it nicely with Howard, JJ, Dennis and Butch. After that era they are still on the same approach and failing miserable and now with the ACC money warranty they are happy to be at the level of Wake Forest. It is just willingness to invest but they dont want it. They are letting us fans fading into just memories and eventually acceptiong as golden said very proudly "We are what We are" This is a statement backed by the Administration. But in terms of money UM have it compete at a good level 4-5 million a year without any burden. They just want to continiue their hit the jackpot chance again.

 

[TXCANE4]

Jesus put the guy out of his misery already

 

[CaneInHeelCountry]

UM has the money, tons of money! stop believing the crap being feeding to us. Just look around campus, look at the acquisitions, the Health Systems, etc. What they don't have is the will to spend it on Football. They were paying Coker 4 million one tiime! They still have the mentality of low risk (money) high rewards and they hit it nicely with Howard, JJ, Dennis and Butch. After that era they are still on the same approach and failing miserable and now with the ACC money warranty they are happy to be at the level of Wake Forest. It is just willingness to invest but they dont want it. They are letting us fans fading into just memories and eventually acceptiong as golden said very proudly "We are what We are" This is a statement backed by the Administration. But in terms of money UM have it compete at a good level 4-5 million a year without any burden. They just want to continiue their hit the jackpot chance again.

A) The money for athletics is separate from the endowment monies that go to buildings, faculty and admin salaries, research facilities, etc. Athletics runs on ticket and merch sales, student fees and donations, and the money we get from the ACC TV deal and bowl money.

B) UM never paid Coker 4 mil; don't know where you're getting that. We reportedly paid him just over 2 mil/yr for his last deal here.

C) Why doesn't everybody pay 4-5 mil/yr for a coach, then? Why are most "top schools" with money paying in the 3 mil range?

 

[cane since birth]

I dont know too much about buy outs and such, but can boosters or another university that wants him buy his contract out?

He finished 6-6 in the ACC Coastal with 10 NFL draft eligible players on the roster. What other university would want him?!

Whoa there buddy im not saying that i was just curious about that, selective reading i see

 

[5Ringz]

Kelly Golden?


VIOLATION

 

[Oh Snap]

I believe the comment about his wife being unhappy down here. The people in general down here are simply ********.

 

[ScubaCane]

I've resigned myself to the fact that we are stuck with this guy for one more year, I'll be praying that we don't miraculously win 9 games and save his ***.

 

[Oh Snap]

I hope we go 0-12

 

[Bigtip]

the situation is actually very ******* simple:

1. F/A/G aint quitting. he wont walk away from a pay day
2. F/A/G aint getting another gig. LMFAO at that thought
3. F/A/G is not going to have success here. ever. he has lost the team and recruiting will take a nose dive.
4. therefore, F/A/G must be fired or some negotiated buy-out must be made NOW! waiting a year does nothing but damage the program even further. the university would end up spending as much money waiting a year AND it would damage the program to new lows

 

[Consigliere]

?? Tell you about coaches who got 5 years? There's too many to name.

Point is that there are very few coaches who were fired before 5 years without a losing season or some controversy.

Kifffin was constantly embroiled in little controversies while at USC. He butted heads continually with Pat Haden, who hated him.

Mushcamp? Had a losing season and butted heads with admin.

Pretty much any other coach I can think of that was fired before a fifth year (Turner Gill, Charlie Weis, Bob Davie, Schnellenberger while he was at OU, go down the list....) all had either sat least one losing season or some sort of controversy.

Original quote: Name me a coach that was fired before year 5 without a losing season or major controversy.

Lane Kiffin. He was fired because he sucked and USC has/had real SANCTIONS (REAL UNLIKE OURS).

Will Muschamp actually had success (11 wins and Sugar Bowl), but he was fired.

Al Golden has had NO success. He doesn't deserve a fifth year. Coaches at real programs get fired and are not given 5 years especially when in year 4 you have the same record as year 1. How about the Penn State Controversy?

Will Muschamp also had a losing season...which was the whole ****ing point.

What about the "PSU controversy?" That was only controversy to fans...no media ****storm, unlike Kiffin at USC or any other major controversy.

Golden hasn't had a losing season--although it sure as **** feels like he has.

Muschamp did more then Golden. Call me when Al wins 11 games or goes to a BCS bowl.

Nobody gets 5 years at good programs with the track record Al has had. You made this up, we wait for all these coaches.

Michigan, USC and UF all cut ties without a fifth year. You're wrong. There is no good program that would tolerate this performance. Even RS was shown the door after 4 years with the almost identical record overall and a better record in year 4. Golden has done nothing. Deserves nothing either.

Dude, you're making my case for me.

Muschamp--losing season.
Kiffin-controvery (Pat Haden hated him for his constant shenanigans)
RichRod at Michigan - losing season
Hoke at Michigan - Losing season AND controversy


I'm not happy about it, but Golden has been a good "face" for the university, has stayed out of the headlines and away from controversy...and he hasn't had a losing season. It's standard for guys like him to get 5 years.

You have no case. Nobody at a good program gets 5 years with no success. Who gets 5 years?

We wait for proof of any coach at a good program gettting 5 years with Al's track record.

 

[sdaly]

still say no changes till a new president arrives.... if hectares about football things will change
maybe both Al & Blake..... if this info is from Canessport it does not carry much credibility

 

[bolomite21]

I'm no Warren Buffet, but from a financial standpoint, this holdup on whether to get rid of Al or not, makes no sense. Is the potential loss of money from keeping Al not greater than the buyout. Loss of donations, season ticket sales, individual game tickets, all will dip to all time lows. More embarrasing overhead shots of SunLife on ESPN, exposing our shameful gameday atmosphere to potential recruits. The coach brings the recruits, the recruits winning games brings the fans, fans bring the money. We stand to get some bottom of the barrel recruits if Al stays. 2015 and 2016 classes will be ruined. If they wait until next year to break ties, it will have have lasting effects for the future and severely handicap the next coach. The investment needs to be made now, or the cost a year from now will be too much to overcome.

 

[01Canes]

I'm no Warren Buffet, but from a financial standpoint, this holdup on whether to get rid of Al or not, makes no sense. Is the potential loss of money from keeping Al not greater than the buyout. Loss of donations, season ticket sales, individual game tickets, all will dip to all time lows. More embarrasing overhead shots of SunLife on ESPN, exposing our shameful gameday atmosphere to potential recruits. The coach brings the recruits, the recruits winning games brings the fans, fans bring the money. We stand to get some bottom of the barrel recruits if Al stays. 2015 and 2016 classes will be ruined. If they wait until next year to break ties, it will have have lasting effects for the future and severely handicap the next coach. The investment needs to be made now, or the cost a year from now will be too much to overcome.

The administration doesn't see it that way because they're too stupid to recognize their own stupidity.

They are killing this program by keeping Golden here another year, and they're not taking any salient point you mentioned into consideration. All they're focused on is the immediate cost of the buyout rather than the long-term damage they're inflicting on this program.