Soccer stadium

[fincane]

Beckham has 80 million? He's about 1 Billion short for a football stadium.

Completely inaccurate and ridiculous. Baylor is building a state of the art 45,000 seat stadium with an expansion plan of 55,000 for 250 million. When that stadium opens in the fall no one will be throwing out stuff like its "small time" or "they might as well be Tulane or Duke."

 

[bozcane]

All for it. A design that was loud as **** on the field, the bane of every opponent and the key to our home field advantage.

Just throwing this out for the **** of it...what if/has anybody thrown out the idea of a smaller, more modern "Orange Bowl" design. It was a huge part of the city for years and hosted some great events with a great atmosphere.

 

[DapperSlapper]

For the county and Beckham's group, it's the port site. Principally for Beckham, its the urban setting and prime location. The county needs development in that area one way or another to generate revenue for its port debt. That location as been sitting idle for years!! Do you know of anyone rushing to pour development dollars into the location now? Nope.

That's not exactly correct. http://www.archdaily.com/332719/port-side-miami-plusurbia-design/

Any proposal with office buildings, hotels, etc. would bring in a lot more money that a stadium.

 

[Cane7451]

My comment about Beckham's team folding and UM paying for an expansion was facetious. In relation to the parking, it's roughly 7 home dates a year. I'm pretty sure we could schedule to avoid conflicts with the Heat- or vice versa. The rest of your comments are all speculative and based on your inside baseball assumptions. I'm content on debating this on face value as it's fun to dream of something better than SLS for now and Barry Jackson's report actually does fly in the face of all of those that have been all so quick to instantly dismiss the idea as though said dismissal makes them smarter than all of us wanting a better venue. It's the same crowd that somehow finds joy when new uniforms don't materialize each year.

How could it be better venue than Sun Life? I dream it will be a cheap aluminum erector set stadium that is designed for soccer not football and is far too small for UM. I see no tailgating areas and a major lack of parking even if the Heat aren't playing. MLS plays on Saturday nights and I see major conflicts on our schedule. This won't be UM's stadium we would be leasing it for more money than we pay now for a much lesser facility. Great it may have a better scenic view but I could care less about the view. The sidelines distances will be about the same as they are at Sun Life. There won't be two big Jumbo Trons. There will be no income from parking and just a tiny fraction of the club seats and luxury boxes we have now that provides major income for UM.

Beckham is just using UM to try to get the Downtown site since that is bigger since the city is trying to force him onto the Marlin Park site that too small for a 40K stadium. Don't get your hope up since the day Beckham gets that downtown lot he will do everything he can to ditch UM to build a stadium that fits his needs not UM's. After all it is Beckham's money and he doesn't care about the U that is a direct competitor for sports $$$ with overlapping seasons that both play on Saturdays.

The city is NOT trying to force Beckham into Marlins Stadium site. The city is NOT the lead on this deal, it's the County Mayor . The Marlin site is within the City of Miami. Have you heard the Mayor of Miami say a beep about this? Why not? Because, he is not forcing anyone to do anything with that site. There's no interest by Beckham nor the county on Marlin's site. As far as Beckham using UM to get Downtown site is laughable I know for a fact is not true. The County Mayor and Beckham have developed a very good relationship. The opportunity came knocking at UM's door This is a private investment. Beckham's needs has much revenue stream to justify an investment and make a profit, this is just basic business sense

For the county and Beckham's group, it's the port site. Principally for Beckham, its the urban setting and prime location. The county needs development in that area one way or another to generate revenue for its port debt. That location as been sitting idle for years!! Do you know of anyone rushing to pour development dollars into the location now? Nope.

If you think Beckham, and principally Simon Fuller, are going to attach themselves to a "cheap aluminum erector stadium" you're clueless. This will be a very nice stadium. I've seen the renderings. The kind of stadium that will attract good European soccer teams to play at the stadium against South/Central American teams, games which will be sold out, just like SLS, when it has held its soccer event. Do you really think that Beckham and Fuller are thinking only local? What do you think the crowd will be when "friendlies" with Real Madrid, Manchester United or any other team from South/Central American are arranged. Yep, sold out events. Beckham's name has that power, Fuller's business sense makes it viable.

I don't see how you can have "major" schedule conflicts on SIX games a year. THis is not baseball. The schedule can be worked around.The Heat normally don't play at noon or 3:30 on Saturdays. And if, they're playing at home that date So, leave the dramatics aside. I don't know about you but I rather have the loud/high decibels of fans from a packed stadium, than blasting music from a jumbo tron in between plays.

This will come to numbers/dollars, and smaller variables. The rest of your negativity can be overcomed or accommodated.

According to this article last week "“The city showed David land near Marlins Park,” the source added, “and that location is getting a new life.”


Keep dreaming that Beckham will raise extra money to build UM a stadium for 40K out of his budget. UM has said they aren't going to finance a stadium. I pulled this picture from Google Earth of the SW corner of Dodge Island where Beckham wants to build a stadium. It's a terrible place for UM to have our stadium. The only way to access Port of Miami is by Port Boulevard via NE Sixth Street which also happens to be the busiest spot in the entire city. There is no parking for 20K much less 40K and have people walk across that bridge.

Read this article that is just talking about a 25K soccer stadium not the extra traffic from a 40K or larger football stadium.

PortMiami Is a Terrible Location for David Beckham's Stadium, and Here's Why

And they have seen other sites also. It is a political gesture. The first and foremost area is the port. Again, Beckham is NOT only thinking of UM for capacity only but other events to increase revenue. Use some common sense. As for traffic, it's Saturday, no work week traffic. Furthermore, the Port of Miami tunnel takes you straight into the port avoiding city traffic Additionally, you have Metrorail/Metromover route that leaves you right in the area or take a trolley ride. The whole Downtown area has plenty of parking on a Saturday with immediate access to Metromover. This urban setting stadium is perfect for the university

David Beckham is just a underwear model and I don't even consider soccer a man's sport. Beckham isn't smart enough to see anything or he wouldn't be putting another MLS team in Miami after the Fusion failed.

If you claim their is no traffic in the Port of Miami on Saturday just head down about 10AM any Saturday and check out the traffic from several Cruise ships that are loading up with people and supplies. The Port of Miami accounts for 176,000 jobs and has an annual economic impact in Miami of $18 billion. It is the 11th largest cargo container port in the United States. In 2010, a record 4.33 million passengers traveled through the Port of Miami. One in seven of all the world’s cruise passengers start from Miami. Then again I guess you think the Port of Miami is closed on Saturday since you claim there will be no traffic and lots of parking. Port of Miami is on Dodge Island and the parking is on the other side of the water and you must think at least 35,000 fans are going to walk across that bridge to Dodge Island. Go on Google Earth then look at the SW corner of Port of Miami and show me where all these UM fans are going to park as the several cruise ships are loading up at the same time.

It is no use worrying about this since after Beckham gets that Port location he will no longer need to use UM. Beckham would never put his MLS money into building a stadium that would fit UM so this is all a waste of time for Canes fans. I can't wait for Beckham MLS team to bankrupt like the Fusion since it will be less sports competition that UM will have to fight for winning sports $$$ from people attending the game.

 

[terra99pin]

David Beckham is just a underwear model and I don't even consider soccer a man's sport. Beckham isn't smart enough to see anything or he wouldn't be putting another MLS team in Miami after the Fusion failed.

If you claim their is no traffic in the Port of Miami on Saturday just head down about 10AM any Saturday and check out the traffic from several Cruise ships that are loading up with people and supplies. The Port of Miami accounts for 176,000 jobs and has an annual economic impact in Miami of $18 billion. It is the 11th largest cargo container port in the United States. In 2010, a record 4.33 million passengers traveled through the Port of Miami. One in seven of all the world’s cruise passengers start from Miami. Then again I guess you think the Port of Miami is closed on Saturday since you claim there will be no traffic and lots of parking. Port of Miami is on Dodge Island and the parking is on the other side of the water and you must think at least 35,000 fans are going to walk across that bridge to Dodge Island. Go on Google Earth then look at the SW corner of Port of Miami and show me where all these UM fans are going to park as the several cruise ships are loading up at the same time.

It is no use worrying about this since after Beckham gets that Port location he will no longer need to use UM. Beckham would never put his MLS money into building a stadium that would fit UM so this is all a waste of time for Canes fans. I can't wait for Beckham MLS team to bankrupt like the Fusion since it will be less sports competition that UM will have to fight for winning sports $$$ from people attending the game.

I'm shocked at the number of people who appear to be fighting the idea of a new stadium. Don't you get that Sun Life is a huge problem for the program? Who gives a **** if it has comfy seats and a jumbotron? Its way too big for us and looks empty nearly all of the time. Chris Fowler makes fun of it on national tv almost any chance he gets. It flat out sucks for recruiting! And you are wrong about the quality of the stadium that Beckham intends to build. He wants to be able to hold major events there-- big concerts, FIFA matches, etc. There will be plenty of amenities. But the only way to afford the types of costs that go along with building something like that is to sign up some major tenants. UM football qualifies and helps make this thing economical!

These reports are coming from sources inside both beckham's group and UM. There must be a decent chance of it happening. The idea that Beckham is just "using" UM is silly. Beckham is an outsider to Miami. How the **** is he going to come in and outmaneuver UM politically on their own turf? Beckham can't afford to make enemies like that so early.

 

[OldhamA]

Beckham has 80 million? He's about 1 Billion short for a football stadium.

LOL, like Beckham is going to sink any of his personal fortune into this.

 

[Cane7451]

David Beckham is just a underwear model and I don't even consider soccer a man's sport. Beckham isn't smart enough to see anything or he wouldn't be putting another MLS team in Miami after the Fusion failed.

If you claim their is no traffic in the Port of Miami on Saturday just head down about 10AM any Saturday and check out the traffic from several Cruise ships that are loading up with people and supplies. The Port of Miami accounts for 176,000 jobs and has an annual economic impact in Miami of $18 billion. It is the 11th largest cargo container port in the United States. In 2010, a record 4.33 million passengers traveled through the Port of Miami. One in seven of all the world’s cruise passengers start from Miami. Then again I guess you think the Port of Miami is closed on Saturday since you claim there will be no traffic and lots of parking. Port of Miami is on Dodge Island and the parking is on the other side of the water and you must think at least 35,000 fans are going to walk across that bridge to Dodge Island. Go on Google Earth then look at the SW corner of Port of Miami and show me where all these UM fans are going to park as the several cruise ships are loading up at the same time.

It is no use worrying about this since after Beckham gets that Port location he will no longer need to use UM. Beckham would never put his MLS money into building a stadium that would fit UM so this is all a waste of time for Canes fans. I can't wait for Beckham MLS team to bankrupt like the Fusion since it will be less sports competition that UM will have to fight for winning sports $$$ from people attending the game.

I'm shocked at the number of people who appear to be fighting the idea of a new stadium. Don't you get that Sun Life is a huge problem for the program? Who gives a **** if it has comfy seats and a jumbotron? Its way too big for us and looks empty nearly all of the time. Chris Fowler makes fun of it on national tv almost any chance he gets. It flat out sucks for recruiting! And you are wrong about the quality of the stadium that Beckham intends to build. He wants to be able to hold major events there-- big concerts, FIFA matches, etc. There will be plenty of amenities. But the only way to afford the types of costs that go along with building something like that is to sign up some major tenants. UM football qualifies and helps make this thing economical!

These reports are coming from sources inside both beckham's group and UM. There must be a decent chance of it happening. The idea that Beckham is just "using" UM is silly. Beckham is an outsider to Miami. How the **** is he going to come in and outmaneuver UM politically on their own turf? Beckham can't afford to make enemies like that so early.

You don't get it Canes recruits love playing in a NFL stadium where Super Bowls are played. Recruits want bigger crowds not a stadium with pictures of guys in their underwear painted on the walls of the stadium that plays kick ball. What football player wants to be on a soccer stadium field now that is embarrassing. Chris Fowler would makes fun of the soccer field on national tv almost any chance he gets. Yes, fans care about comfy seats and a jumbo-tron. Canes fans also want the conveniences of driving their car to a game instead of paying $50 to park then hiking a half a mile over a busy bridge to a cheap aluminum erector set stadium that would be the worst stadium in the ACC. I would be all for UM to build their own stadium but I hate the idea of sharing a fields that a soccer team owns that would desecrate our football program with that pathetic game of soccer.

 

[Hegemon]

Sun Life is a HORRIBLE stadium for CFB.

HORRIBLE

Anyone who supports that stadium is delusional.

 

[Cane7451]

Sun Life is a HORRIBLE stadium for CFB.

HORRIBLE

Anyone who supports that stadium is delusional.

Playing football on a MLS soccer field is much worst of an embarrassment than a too large of stadium playing at Sun Life. Anyone that supports sharing a field with a MLS team is delusional. I would rather share a field with FIU since that wouldn't be any where near as embarrassing as sharing a field with a MLS team.

If Miami plays on a MLS field in Port of Miami then even a 25K stadium would be too large for us since it would cost fans four or five times as much to go to a game. That is if they could find any parking near the stadium that would cost $50 to $100 a spot. The only way Miami will ever win another NC is if the school makes money to support our Athletic program and there is no way that Miami can make money by playing in Beckham MLS stadium on Dodge Island.

Sun Life has spent about $750M in land, building and upgrades and these people that tell us Beckham will build a better stadium with no parking and limited access for $80M are just delusional.

 

[3FW]

David Beckham is just a underwear model and I don't even consider soccer a man's sport. Beckham isn't smart enough to see anything or he wouldn't be putting another MLS team in Miami after the Fusion failed.

If you claim their is no traffic in the Port of Miami on Saturday just head down about 10AM any Saturday and check out the traffic from several Cruise ships that are loading up with people and supplies. The Port of Miami accounts for 176,000 jobs and has an annual economic impact in Miami of $18 billion. It is the 11th largest cargo container port in the United States. In 2010, a record 4.33 million passengers traveled through the Port of Miami. One in seven of all the world’s cruise passengers start from Miami. Then again I guess you think the Port of Miami is closed on Saturday since you claim there will be no traffic and lots of parking. Port of Miami is on Dodge Island and the parking is on the other side of the water and you must think at least 35,000 fans are going to walk across that bridge to Dodge Island. Go on Google Earth then look at the SW corner of Port of Miami and show me where all these UM fans are going to park as the several cruise ships are loading up at the same time.

It is no use worrying about this since after Beckham gets that Port location he will no longer need to use UM. Beckham would never put his MLS money into building a stadium that would fit UM so this is all a waste of time for Canes fans. I can't wait for Beckham MLS team to bankrupt like the Fusion since it will be less sports competition that UM will have to fight for winning sports $$$ from people attending the game.

I'm shocked at the number of people who appear to be fighting the idea of a new stadium. Don't you get that Sun Life is a huge problem for the program? Who gives a **** if it has comfy seats and a jumbotron? Its way too big for us and looks empty nearly all of the time. Chris Fowler makes fun of it on national tv almost any chance he gets. It flat out sucks for recruiting! And you are wrong about the quality of the stadium that Beckham intends to build. He wants to be able to hold major events there-- big concerts, FIFA matches, etc. There will be plenty of amenities. But the only way to afford the types of costs that go along with building something like that is to sign up some major tenants. UM football qualifies and helps make this thing economical!

These reports are coming from sources inside both beckham's group and UM. There must be a decent chance of it happening. The idea that Beckham is just "using" UM is silly. Beckham is an outsider to Miami. How the **** is he going to come in and outmaneuver UM politically on their own turf? Beckham can't afford to make enemies like that so early.

You don't get it Canes recruits love playing in a NFL stadium where Super Bowls are played. Recruits want bigger crowds not a stadium with pictures of guys in their underwear painted on the walls of the stadium that plays kick ball. What football player wants to be on a soccer stadium field now that is embarrassing. Chris Fowler would makes fun of the soccer field on national tv almost any chance he gets. Yes, fans care about comfy seats and a jumbo-tron. Canes fans also want the conveniences of driving their car to a game instead of paying $50 to park then hiking a half a mile over a busy bridge to a cheap aluminum erector set stadium that would be the worst stadium in the ACC. I would be all for UM to build their own stadium but I hate the idea of sharing a fields that a soccer team owns that would desecrate our football program with that pathetic game of soccer.

Please tell me you are a child, because you certainly come across as one. LMAO that your making a big deal about sharing a field with a professional soccer team. Soccer has come a long way in this country, maybe not on the field, but the fanbase of the sport in general is huge right now. I used to have a similiar attitude as yours, but I've grown up.

 

[Cane7451]

David Beckham is just a underwear model and I don't even consider soccer a man's sport. Beckham isn't smart enough to see anything or he wouldn't be putting another MLS team in Miami after the Fusion failed.

If you claim their is no traffic in the Port of Miami on Saturday just head down about 10AM any Saturday and check out the traffic from several Cruise ships that are loading up with people and supplies. The Port of Miami accounts for 176,000 jobs and has an annual economic impact in Miami of $18 billion. It is the 11th largest cargo container port in the United States. In 2010, a record 4.33 million passengers traveled through the Port of Miami. One in seven of all the world’s cruise passengers start from Miami. Then again I guess you think the Port of Miami is closed on Saturday since you claim there will be no traffic and lots of parking. Port of Miami is on Dodge Island and the parking is on the other side of the water and you must think at least 35,000 fans are going to walk across that bridge to Dodge Island. Go on Google Earth then look at the SW corner of Port of Miami and show me where all these UM fans are going to park as the several cruise ships are loading up at the same time.

It is no use worrying about this since after Beckham gets that Port location he will no longer need to use UM. Beckham would never put his MLS money into building a stadium that would fit UM so this is all a waste of time for Canes fans. I can't wait for Beckham MLS team to bankrupt like the Fusion since it will be less sports competition that UM will have to fight for winning sports $$$ from people attending the game.

I'm shocked at the number of people who appear to be fighting the idea of a new stadium. Don't you get that Sun Life is a huge problem for the program? Who gives a **** if it has comfy seats and a jumbotron? Its way too big for us and looks empty nearly all of the time. Chris Fowler makes fun of it on national tv almost any chance he gets. It flat out sucks for recruiting! And you are wrong about the quality of the stadium that Beckham intends to build. He wants to be able to hold major events there-- big concerts, FIFA matches, etc. There will be plenty of amenities. But the only way to afford the types of costs that go along with building something like that is to sign up some major tenants. UM football qualifies and helps make this thing economical!

These reports are coming from sources inside both beckham's group and UM. There must be a decent chance of it happening. The idea that Beckham is just "using" UM is silly. Beckham is an outsider to Miami. How the **** is he going to come in and outmaneuver UM politically on their own turf? Beckham can't afford to make enemies like that so early.

You don't get it Canes recruits love playing in a NFL stadium where Super Bowls are played. Recruits want bigger crowds not a stadium with pictures of guys in their underwear painted on the walls of the stadium that plays kick ball. What football player wants to be on a soccer stadium field now that is embarrassing. Chris Fowler would makes fun of the soccer field on national tv almost any chance he gets. Yes, fans care about comfy seats and a jumbo-tron. Canes fans also want the conveniences of driving their car to a game instead of paying $50 to park then hiking a half a mile over a busy bridge to a cheap aluminum erector set stadium that would be the worst stadium in the ACC. I would be all for UM to build their own stadium but I hate the idea of sharing a fields that a soccer team owns that would desecrate our football program with that pathetic game of soccer.

Please tell me you are a child, because you certainly come across as one. LMAO that your making a big deal about sharing a field with a professional soccer team. Soccer has come a long way in this country, maybe not on the field, but the fanbase of the sport in general is huge right now. I used to have a similiar attitude as yours, but I've grown up.

There is a limited amount of sports dollars that UM is competing with to buy tickets in a already crowded pack of sports competitors in the Dolphins, Heat, NHL Panthers, Marlins, PGA, ATP Tennis, FIU and FAU. Anything that UM does to support the MLS will only hurt UM financially.

 

[Angry Ibis]

David Beckham is just a underwear model and I don't even consider soccer a man's sport. Beckham isn't smart enough to see anything or he wouldn't be putting another MLS team in Miami after the Fusion failed.

If you claim their is no traffic in the Port of Miami on Saturday just head down about 10AM any Saturday and check out the traffic from several Cruise ships that are loading up with people and supplies. The Port of Miami accounts for 176,000 jobs and has an annual economic impact in Miami of $18 billion. It is the 11th largest cargo container port in the United States. In 2010, a record 4.33 million passengers traveled through the Port of Miami. One in seven of all the world’s cruise passengers start from Miami. Then again I guess you think the Port of Miami is closed on Saturday since you claim there will be no traffic and lots of parking. Port of Miami is on Dodge Island and the parking is on the other side of the water and you must think at least 35,000 fans are going to walk across that bridge to Dodge Island. Go on Google Earth then look at the SW corner of Port of Miami and show me where all these UM fans are going to park as the several cruise ships are loading up at the same time.

It is no use worrying about this since after Beckham gets that Port location he will no longer need to use UM. Beckham would never put his MLS money into building a stadium that would fit UM so this is all a waste of time for Canes fans. I can't wait for Beckham MLS team to bankrupt like the Fusion since it will be less sports competition that UM will have to fight for winning sports $$$ from people attending the game.

I'm shocked at the number of people who appear to be fighting the idea of a new stadium. Don't you get that Sun Life is a huge problem for the program? Who gives a **** if it has comfy seats and a jumbotron? Its way too big for us and looks empty nearly all of the time. Chris Fowler makes fun of it on national tv almost any chance he gets. It flat out sucks for recruiting! And you are wrong about the quality of the stadium that Beckham intends to build. He wants to be able to hold major events there-- big concerts, FIFA matches, etc. There will be plenty of amenities. But the only way to afford the types of costs that go along with building something like that is to sign up some major tenants. UM football qualifies and helps make this thing economical!

These reports are coming from sources inside both beckham's group and UM. There must be a decent chance of it happening. The idea that Beckham is just "using" UM is silly. Beckham is an outsider to Miami. How the **** is he going to come in and outmaneuver UM politically on their own turf? Beckham can't afford to make enemies like that so early.

You don't get it Canes recruits love playing in a NFL stadium where Super Bowls are played. Recruits want bigger crowds not a stadium with pictures of guys in their underwear painted on the walls of the stadium that plays kick ball. What football player wants to be on a soccer stadium field now that is embarrassing. Chris Fowler would makes fun of the soccer field on national tv almost any chance he gets. Yes, fans care about comfy seats and a jumbo-tron. Canes fans also want the conveniences of driving their car to a game instead of paying $50 to park then hiking a half a mile over a busy bridge to a cheap aluminum erector set stadium that would be the worst stadium in the ACC. I would be all for UM to build their own stadium but I hate the idea of sharing a fields that a soccer team owns that would desecrate our football program with that pathetic game of soccer.

Please tell me you are a child, because you certainly come across as one. LMAO that your making a big deal about sharing a field with a professional soccer team. Soccer has come a long way in this country, maybe not on the field, but the fanbase of the sport in general is huge right now. I used to have a similiar attitude as yours, but I've grown up.

There is a limited amount of sports dollars that UM is competing with to buy tickets in a already crowded pack of sports competitors in the Dolphins, Heat, NHL Panthers, Marlins, PGA, ATP Tennis, FIU and FAU. Anything that UM does to support the MLS will only hurt UM financially.

So, knowing this, the answer is to play games in a Stadium too big for our fickle fan base, leaving the stadium half empty for many games, and have it used against by recruits, other schools and local coaches looking for something to ***** about rather than explore options for a stadium that may be better fit for Miami Hurricane Football?

 

[Hegemon]

Sun Life is a HORRIBLE stadium for CFB.

HORRIBLE

Anyone who supports that stadium is delusional.

Playing football on a MLS soccer field is much worst of an embarrassment than a too large of stadium playing at Sun Life. Anyone that supports sharing a field with a MLS team is delusional. I would rather share a field with FIU since that wouldn't be any where near as embarrassing as sharing a field with a MLS team.

If Miami plays on a MLS field in Port of Miami then even a 25K stadium would be too large for us since it would cost fans four or five times as much to go to a game. That is if they could find any parking near the stadium that would cost $50 to $100 a spot. The only way Miami will ever win another NC is if the school makes money to support our Athletic program and there is no way that Miami can make money by playing in Beckham MLS stadium on Dodge Island.

Sun Life has spent about $750M in land, building and upgrades and these people that tell us Beckham will build a better stadium with no parking and limited access for $80M are just delusional.

I should have put a caveat in that that's equally ******.

We have a mom and pop leadership. No vision. No support. It's a joke.

Donna Shalala has completely failed UM athletic's outside of the miraculous hiring of Larranaga.

 

[Lauderdale]

I think it's fair to say that Donna Shalala has always recognized the insufficiencies of Dolphins (Sun Life) Stadium but she had no viable alternatives when the City of Miami decided to demolish the Orange Bowl. The City of Miami in their infinite wisdom chose to spend $2 billion on a new dome stadium versus $150 million to renovate the Orange Bowl. The one alternative was to build a new stadium at Tropical Park with FIU but FIU refused to join UM in building a new stadium at Tropical Park that was the last straw.

I also believe the University would participate with a new stadium of 45,000 seats and that's what Beckham should want as well. He could have a more viable stadium for other events and concerts as well.

I think the Dodge Island site makes a beautiful location but it's not the best use of the land and parking and traffic make it difficult. Don't forget Miami and Dade County are spending billions on Dodge Island improvements (tunnel, deepening the harbor etc.) leasing land for a stadium won't go over well with voters.

What are the alternatives?

Tropical Park - the number one fall back
Marlins Stadium Area - just North of Marlins Stadium would require City of Miami cooperation
Virginia Key - If the Marine Stadium is not refurbished it could be a beautiful location but Key Biscayne would object. There is other land on Virginia Key as well.

I'm sure there are other locations but not as good.

 

[ramcanes]

For the county and Beckham's group, it's the port site. Principally for Beckham, its the urban setting and prime location. The county needs development in that area one way or another to generate revenue for its port debt. That location as been sitting idle for years!! Do you know of anyone rushing to pour development dollars into the location now? Nope.

That's not exactly correct. http://www.archdaily.com/332719/port-side-miami-plusurbia-design/

Any proposal with office buildings, hotels, etc. would bring in a lot more money that a stadium.

Yes, it will but as per the article. The City of Miami allowed the port to be turnover to the county on a condition to be used for port purpose only. No development can be allowed there without a political fight with powerful Downtown Authority. They will not object to a stadium because it will bring $$$ to their area. But, competition across the bay is another matter. That is why a prime piece of property as been idle for years and proposals for development have been pie in the sky. Beckham's stadium is the cataylst what could be a negotiated settlement for commercial development. with City of Miami/Downtown Authority.

Highlights from article:
Political pressure in Miami may prove a significant advantage for Beckham, since the city of Miami gave the county the port island with the condition that it always be used for port purposes. By shifting the development plan to more of an entertainment destination surrounding a soccer stadium, the port could mollify foes on the commercial side and still generate revenue from hotels, shops and restaurants built on the site.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/02/...hams-soccer-plans-conflict.html#storylink=cpy

While Beckham’s negotiators are mostly staying quiet publicly, they’ve found allies in Miami’s commercial real estate industry, which largely opposes the port’s plan to be a new player in the city’s development sector. In December, the city’s tax-funded Downtown Development Authority wrote to PortMiami protesting its planned commercial development, as others warn of an ill-fated venture that would flood an already glutted market.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/02/...hams-soccer-plans-conflict.html#storylink=cpy

 

[terra99pin]

You don't get it Canes recruits love playing in a NFL stadium where Super Bowls are played. Recruits want bigger crowds not a stadium with pictures of guys in their underwear painted on the walls of the stadium that plays kick ball. What football player wants to be on a soccer stadium field now that is embarrassing. Chris Fowler would makes fun of the soccer field on national tv almost any chance he gets. Yes, fans care about comfy seats and a jumbo-tron. Canes fans also want the conveniences of driving their car to a game instead of paying $50 to park then hiking a half a mile over a busy bridge to a cheap aluminum erector set stadium that would be the worst stadium in the ACC. I would be all for UM to build their own stadium but I hate the idea of sharing a fields that a soccer team owns that would desecrate our football program with that pathetic game of soccer.

The Seahawks play in a stadium that was designed to accommodate both soccer and football, and they have the best home field advantage in the NFL.

Lol at the idea of "convenience" being an advantage for Sun Life. What a joke.

 

[Cane7451]

I'm shocked at the number of people who appear to be fighting the idea of a new stadium. Don't you get that Sun Life is a huge problem for the program? Who gives a **** if it has comfy seats and a jumbotron? Its way too big for us and looks empty nearly all of the time. Chris Fowler makes fun of it on national tv almost any chance he gets. It flat out sucks for recruiting! And you are wrong about the quality of the stadium that Beckham intends to build. He wants to be able to hold major events there-- big concerts, FIFA matches, etc. There will be plenty of amenities. But the only way to afford the types of costs that go along with building something like that is to sign up some major tenants. UM football qualifies and helps make this thing economical!

These reports are coming from sources inside both beckham's group and UM. There must be a decent chance of it happening. The idea that Beckham is just "using" UM is silly. Beckham is an outsider to Miami. How the **** is he going to come in and outmaneuver UM politically on their own turf? Beckham can't afford to make enemies like that so early.

You don't get it Canes recruits love playing in a NFL stadium where Super Bowls are played. Recruits want bigger crowds not a stadium with pictures of guys in their underwear painted on the walls of the stadium that plays kick ball. What football player wants to be on a soccer stadium field now that is embarrassing. Chris Fowler would makes fun of the soccer field on national tv almost any chance he gets. Yes, fans care about comfy seats and a jumbo-tron. Canes fans also want the conveniences of driving their car to a game instead of paying $50 to park then hiking a half a mile over a busy bridge to a cheap aluminum erector set stadium that would be the worst stadium in the ACC. I would be all for UM to build their own stadium but I hate the idea of sharing a fields that a soccer team owns that would desecrate our football program with that pathetic game of soccer.

Please tell me you are a child, because you certainly come across as one. LMAO that your making a big deal about sharing a field with a professional soccer team. Soccer has come a long way in this country, maybe not on the field, but the fanbase of the sport in general is huge right now. I used to have a similiar attitude as yours, but I've grown up.

There is a limited amount of sports dollars that UM is competing with to buy tickets in a already crowded pack of sports competitors in the Dolphins, Heat, NHL Panthers, Marlins, PGA, ATP Tennis, FIU and FAU. Anything that UM does to support the MLS will only hurt UM financially.

So, knowing this, the answer is to play games in a Stadium too big for our fickle fan base, leaving the stadium half empty for many games, and have it used against by recruits, other schools and local coaches looking for something to ***** about rather than explore options for a stadium that may be better fit for Miami Hurricane Football?

The answer is make the most money from all football ticket & parking pass sales as you can so you can spend it on building better football team. Miami has a 13% increase in football ticket sales last year that averaged over 53K per game in 2013. You can't sell more tickets than you got seats at a game. You can't sell parking when you have no parking area. Even if we were in that 40K MLS stadium there would still be a lot of no shows since there is no parking and easy access to Dodge Island. The noles and gates will always using negative recruiting on Miami and our only come back is to build a better team and that takes money. Beckham's stadium would destroy UM's Athletic program since there is no way to make money without parking, 60K seats and a stadium that fans can afford to attend games. Beckham's stadium offers none of that.

If Miami's football did get rolling again winning there is no way the Canes Athletic program could make money in Beckham's stadium that is too small and couldn't be expanded. We can't sustain success without the money to support the Athletic program. If more Canes fans would buy tickets to Sun Life there wouldn't be an issue with empty seats. Playing is a tiny 40K stadium with no parking revenue and limited road access is a going out of business plan not a solution for UM.

 

[Tad Footeball]

The opposition to the idea on here has degenerated quicker than a D'Onofrio second half defense. We went from people making semi-rational arguments to children claiming that the most picturesque venue in college sports would still be derided by Chris Fowler because...my God...it's dual purpose. Thank God we never had an infield on camera with 40000 fans dressed as empty seats at SLS!!! I also love the predicted bait and switch by Beckham. Is this a deal between two second graders? Haha! Fooled ya! You gave me the land in blind faith and now I just said "See ya!" to UM! C'mon, bro. That type of dealing doesn't even go on at a low rent used car lot in Hialeah.

 

[Dingaan1828]

Isn't SunLife a football/soccer stadium?

 

[Tad Footeball]

You don't get it Canes recruits love playing in a NFL stadium where Super Bowls are played. Recruits want bigger crowds not a stadium with pictures of guys in their underwear painted on the walls of the stadium that plays kick ball. What football player wants to be on a soccer stadium field now that is embarrassing. Chris Fowler would makes fun of the soccer field on national tv almost any chance he gets. Yes, fans care about comfy seats and a jumbo-tron. Canes fans also want the conveniences of driving their car to a game instead of paying $50 to park then hiking a half a mile over a busy bridge to a cheap aluminum erector set stadium that would be the worst stadium in the ACC. I would be all for UM to build their own stadium but I hate the idea of sharing a fields that a soccer team owns that would desecrate our football program with that pathetic game of soccer.

Please tell me you are a child, because you certainly come across as one. LMAO that your making a big deal about sharing a field with a professional soccer team. Soccer has come a long way in this country, maybe not on the field, but the fanbase of the sport in general is huge right now. I used to have a similiar attitude as yours, but I've grown up.

There is a limited amount of sports dollars that UM is competing with to buy tickets in a already crowded pack of sports competitors in the Dolphins, Heat, NHL Panthers, Marlins, PGA, ATP Tennis, FIU and FAU. Anything that UM does to support the MLS will only hurt UM financially.

So, knowing this, the answer is to play games in a Stadium too big for our fickle fan base, leaving the stadium half empty for many games, and have it used against by recruits, other schools and local coaches looking for something to **** about rather than explore options for a stadium that may be better fit for Miami Hurricane Football?

The answer is make the most money from all football ticket & parking pass sales as you can so you can spend it on building better football team. Miami has a 13% increase in football ticket sales last year that averaged over 53K per game in 2013. You can't sell more tickets than you got seats at a game. Even if we were in that 40K MLS stadium there would still be a lot of no shows since there is no parking and easy access to Dodge Island. The noles and gates will always using negative recruiting on Miami and our only come back is to build a better team and that takes money. Beckham's stadium would destroy UM's Athletic program since there is no way to make money without parking, 60K seats and a stadium that fans can afford to attend games. Beckham's stadium offers none of that.

If Miami did ever get rolling again there is no way the Canes Athletic program could make money in Beckham's stadium and we can't sustain success without the money to support the Athletic program. If more Canes fans would buy tickets to Sun Life there wouldn't be an issue with empty seats and playing is a tiny 40K stadium with no parking revenue and limited road access is a going out of business plan not a solution for UM.

Your argument is of the more rational variety but how do you contend that once UM "gets going again" that SLS will fill but that the same ever so valuable momentum would still leave seats empty at a much smaller venue? All because of parking? That argument would preclude the building of most downtown venues in any market and would support just dumping them near the closest highways with vast open lands for parking lots.