Soccer stadium

[Soul Cane]

First time in my life I'm pulling for soccer! Interesting that we'd take a 40000 seat venue and that the Port site is seemingly the most conducive of their options to the larger venue. Obviously still a long shot but more than just wishful thinking. I'll take it! First person to whine about traffic should get punched in the throat if it happens. I'd kill to be stuck on an offramp trying to get to the OB again.

Traffic shouldn't be issue in my opinion. Park anywhere along the Metrorail/Metromover route and drops you off right in the area . The Port of Miami tunnel takes you straight into the port avoiding city traffic. There's going be water taxis. Plus, the games are Saturday, avoiding the work week traffic. This is a fantastic opportunity for the "U" Need to email DS and Blake show support !

Ohhhh, traffic would be an issue at that site as Saturdays are huge cruise days. That said, people can deal with it like any other major downtown does. Problem with us is we have too many too quick to point out potential flaws when what they really should be saying is "I live in Broward or Palm Beach and SLS is convenient for the one game I attend each year.". And I say this as a guy that lives in downtown Lauderdale and can easily get to SLS in 20 mins. I'd gladly have to park miles away or show up before anyone else 7 times a year to have a better venue closer to campus that provides a real homefield advantage again.

If they can build a couple taverns/restaurants within walking distance of the stadium (like most modern stadiums), there could be an opportunity for fans to have ****tails for a couple hours until the traffic dies down.

 

[AntwanJ306]

Our admin is mom and pop.

Total joke.

Our admin leads a top 50 university and has raised billions. You?

Naturally, though, when they are trying to do exactly what this board wants them to do (get a new stadium), they still get blasted by the board.

 

[Notsince1985]

I don't care how bad our attendance is now, 40,000 is too small. We need at least 50,000-55,000 unless we plan on being this ****ty forever. Cap it at 40,000 and we are officially Wake Forest and Duke.

Yeah, because everyone is calling Stanford a joke after they downsized to a 50k open air stadium. Beggars (and that's absolutely what we are on this subject) can't be choosers. There are no and will never be any other alternatives short of the Dolphins remodeling SLS.

Yeah, because 40,000 and 50,000 are the same. First, I said 50,000 needs to be the minimum. Second, Stanford never, unless they were playing Cal, and it wasn't even a guarantee then, drew well in their old stadium. We drew well, and well over 40,000 A LOT. And not just for FSU. For FSU, UF, Va Tech, Notre Dame, Washington, Boston College, East Carolina, Iowa, FAMU. Of off the top of my head, those are crowds over 65,000, and those were actual butts in the seats, not the crap we report now. I'm not delusional, I know how pathetic our attendance is now, and I know it's never been great, and I know it'll never be what "Big State School X" is, but to make a decision like this, and tie ourselves to this based on our attendance now, is near-sighted and ridiculous. If we want to be a winning program again, we have to plan for bigger crowds. Sure we've won and had bad crowds, such as some of the games in 2001, but look at some of the crowds against teams like BC in 2002 or East Carolina in 2003. You really want to limit yourself to a 40,000 seat stadium? Do that and you're now Duke, Wake Forest, Houston, Tulane, SMU, etc.

First of all this would be equivalent to Stanford Stadium sizewise except there would probably be an open end. On the water. Facing the skyline. In Miami. And it's new. And at least partially roofed. That kind of doesn't make us the schools you mentioned as people pull up in yachts and cruiseships pass what would easily be the most aesthetically pleasing venue in college sports.

I'm not disagreeing that we'd be ceding a point here by downsizing. I just think if we're realistic about it then we can admit that this is our best option as there's nothing realistic on the horizon and I lump your notion of planning for bigger crowds at SLS in the unrealistic column (not to mention unfair to the actual student population). I also guarantee that $halala can find a way to make an equivalent or more amount of money off of a smaller venue. I personally wouldn't hesitate a second to pay double my current season ticket price for a move to a better venue.

The reports are saying 40,000. Stanford's stadium is 50,000. Those 10,000 seats make a huge difference. If it's 50,000, I can live with it. If it's 40,000, I cannot. I have a hard time believing MLS will go for a 50,000 seat stadium, because they have made it clear, that unless your name is Seattle, you have to build a 18-30,000 seat Soccer specific stadium. I'm sure they would make an exception for one a little bigger, but I doubt they would be thrilled with Miami building a 50,000 seat stadium, unless they can close off an upper deck and not make it look like they're playing in a HUGE stadium that has tarps on half of the seats. That's exactly what MLS is trying to get away from. Lastly, about MLS, I doubt they want a stadium that big in Miami after the Fushion debacle.

Now, for the location and that draw. Yes, I understand a stadium downtown or at the Port of Miami makes it different than the stadiums and schools I listed. With that said, the novelty would wear off in a year, maybe two max, and then you'd be stuck with a small off campus stadium 7? 8? miles from campus. No one goes to anything around the AAA before or after Heat games. It's not like people are hanging out at Bayside (is still open? Still called Bayside?). I don't think people are going to be hanging out and partying in the area before and after the games. I highly doubt we're going to start a tradition like the Vol Navy in Knoxville where people take boats on the Tennessee River to Neyland Stadium or in Seattle where they do it to Husky Stadium.

Last point, we'd still be playing in someone's stadium. So we'd be still be paying rent, so I don't see how we're going to be making $$.

 

[Shinyheadman]

I want a new stadium too but only if it's in walking distance to the school. That is really the only reason we wanted a new stadium in the 1st place.

 

[Cane7451]

These may be just 2013 ticket sales below and not true attendance with fans in the seats but tell me how do we make a home stadium work where we can only sell 40K tickets to any game? UM's football and men basketball program is going to have to support the whole athletic program in revenue for both the men and women's sports. UM's football revenue is about #50 in FBS revenue TODAY. That sure isn't going to get better by selling thousands of less tickets to a game just so we can look like we have a full stadium for the TV.


If Miami plays in a 40K stadium the ticket prices are going to have to more than double in price at minimum to make the same money we are today in revenue with the extra increased cost of leasing a lower quality stadium with almost no high $$ Luxury Box facilities like we have today at Sun Life. At least at Sun Life UM makes money on selling Luxury boxes & parking they lease from the Fins. At the downtown MLS site that parking money will go to private property owners so UM won't get much money for the limited stadium parking the city would keep the $$$. College football is about making money and when you lose money you fold the team like UM did to our basketball program in the mid 70's since it lost money. That 40K max seating, lower quality MLS stadium with higher ticket prices, 13 thousands less ticket sales, no parking and few Luxury Boxes looks like a major gamble to be successful raising more money than we do even today.

FAU game - 50,151 in attendance
UF game - 76, 968 in attendance
Savannah St - 42, 571 in attendance
Georgia Tech - 47, 008 in attendance
Wake Forest - 66, 160 in attendance
Virgina Tech - 49, 267 in attendance
Virginia - 44, 732 in attendance

Miami had a 13% increase in ticket sales in 2013 over 2012 for a grand total of 376,857 tickets sold that averaged 53,837 tickets sold per game in 2013.

Hurricanes Football: Attendance History

 

[Tad Footeball]

I don't care how bad our attendance is now, 40,000 is too small. We need at least 50,000-55,000 unless we plan on being this ****ty forever. Cap it at 40,000 and we are officially Wake Forest and Duke.

Yeah, because everyone is calling Stanford a joke after they downsized to a 50k open air stadium. Beggars (and that's absolutely what we are on this subject) can't be choosers. There are no and will never be any other alternatives short of the Dolphins remodeling SLS.

Yeah, because 40,000 and 50,000 are the same. First, I said 50,000 needs to be the minimum. Second, Stanford never, unless they were playing Cal, and it wasn't even a guarantee then, drew well in their old stadium. We drew well, and well over 40,000 A LOT. And not just for FSU. For FSU, UF, Va Tech, Notre Dame, Washington, Boston College, East Carolina, Iowa, FAMU. Of off the top of my head, those are crowds over 65,000, and those were actual butts in the seats, not the crap we report now. I'm not delusional, I know how pathetic our attendance is now, and I know it's never been great, and I know it'll never be what "Big State School X" is, but to make a decision like this, and tie ourselves to this based on our attendance now, is near-sighted and ridiculous. If we want to be a winning program again, we have to plan for bigger crowds. Sure we've won and had bad crowds, such as some of the games in 2001, but look at some of the crowds against teams like BC in 2002 or East Carolina in 2003. You really want to limit yourself to a 40,000 seat stadium? Do that and you're now Duke, Wake Forest, Houston, Tulane, SMU, etc.

First of all this would be equivalent to Stanford Stadium sizewise except there would probably be an open end. On the water. Facing the skyline. In Miami. And it's new. And at least partially roofed. That kind of doesn't make us the schools you mentioned as people pull up in yachts and cruiseships pass what would easily be the most aesthetically pleasing venue in college sports.

I'm not disagreeing that we'd be ceding a point here by downsizing. I just think if we're realistic about it then we can admit that this is our best option as there's nothing realistic on the horizon and I lump your notion of planning for bigger crowds at SLS in the unrealistic column (not to mention unfair to the actual student population). I also guarantee that $halala can find a way to make an equivalent or more amount of money off of a smaller venue. I personally wouldn't hesitate a second to pay double my current season ticket price for a move to a better venue.

The reports are saying 40,000. Stanford's stadium is 50,000. Those 10,000 seats make a huge difference. If it's 50,000, I can live with it. If it's 40,000, I cannot. I have a hard time believing MLS will go for a 50,000 seat stadium, because they have made it clear, that unless your name is Seattle, you have to build a 18-30,000 seat Soccer specific stadium. I'm sure they would make an exception for one a little bigger, but I doubt they would be thrilled with Miami building a 50,000 seat stadium, unless they can close off an upper deck and not make it look like they're playing in a HUGE stadium that has tarps on half of the seats. That's exactly what MLS is trying to get away from. Lastly, about MLS, I doubt they want a stadium that big in Miami after the Fushion debacle.

Now, for the location and that draw. Yes, I understand a stadium downtown or at the Port of Miami makes it different than the stadiums and schools I listed. With that said, the novelty would wear off in a year, maybe two max, and then you'd be stuck with a small off campus stadium 7? 8? miles from campus. No one goes to anything around the AAA before or after Heat games. It's not like people are hanging out at Bayside (is still open? Still called Bayside?). I don't think people are going to be hanging out and partying in the area before and after the games. I highly doubt we're going to start a tradition like the Vol Navy in Knoxville where people take boats on the Tennessee River to Neyland Stadium or in Seattle where they do it to Husky Stadium.

Last point, we'd still be playing in someone's stadium. So we'd be still be paying rent, so I don't see how we're going to be making $$.

Sooooo, basically you're saying the novelty of a too small by your standards venue would wear off within a few years but you're counting on that same fickle fanbase to consistently fill cavernous SLS once we start winning regularly? How about we just split the difference and allow the 10000 fans you're so concerned about to just watch the games via closed circuit tv at SLS? Then they can go enjoy all the entertainment options that beautiful Miami Gardens has to offer after too. I hear the bar at The El Palacio is fantastic!

 

[cane305]

our total attendance or ticket sales will go down.

but what about ACTUAL attendance. *** in seats?

if capacity is reduced, less seats will be given to students and ticket prices will inevitably go up.

so ticket revenue may not take that much of a hit.

fans who go to the games will WANT to be there.

with the right stadium modifications, seats close to the field, roof over the fans to close in the noise, we may get a pretty rowdy atmosphere.

also that view will be sick, and our facilities will not drag so far behind everyone else.


can this be the silver lining of the giant cloud we just had?

 

[canesupremacy]

Dont forget that UF fans bought alot of our season tickets which inflated our numbers

 

[JefeGringo]

FAU game - 50,151 in attendance
UF game - 76, 968 in attendance
Savannah St - 42, 571 in attendance
Georgia Tech - 47, 008 in attendance
Wake Forest - 66, 160 in attendance
Virgina Tech - 49, 267 in attendance
Virginia - 44, 732 in attendance

Miami had a 13% increase in ticket sales in 2013 over 2012 for a grand total of 376,857 tickets sold that averaged 53,837 tickets sold per game in 2013.

Hurricanes Football: Attendance History

L O Freaking L if you believe those numbers. I guarantee we need 45K at max for all games not involving FSU/UF/some other big, big name school that travels. Anybody that thinks we need above 45K needs their head examined. UM would do quite well with that size stadium for many, many reasons. I'll try to be brief.

First of all, stadiums are going to get smaller, not larger. Reasons include the dwindling baby boomer ticket holders that will be more stingy than ever with their entertainment dollars, the current generation of 30-40 somethings that are squeezed by a tight economy, and most importantly, the advent of HDTV, and smartphone/smart tv apps that lead to the decline of the consumer needs to attend games. Future stadiums will be renovated for smaller capacity, wired for sound, and made wifi friendly.

And by the way, that anguish you hear is from athletic directors that are absolutely freaked out by the average college kid that seemingly has limited interest in attending football games. You know its serious when even SEC schools are freaking out about it. Baby boomers are within 10 years of turning in their tickets for good which presents a huge problem. Who will replace them?

 

[Tad Footeball]

These may be just 2013 ticket sales below and not true attendance with fans in the seats but tell me how do we make a home stadium work where we can only sell 40K tickets to any game? UM's football and men basketball program is going to have to support the whole athletic program in revenue for both the men and women's sports. UM's football revenue is about #50 in FBS revenue TODAY. That sure isn't going to get better by selling thousands of less tickets to a game just so we can look like we have a full stadium for the TV. If Miami plays in a 40K stadium the ticket prices are going to have to more than double in price at minimum to make the same money we are today in revenue with the extra increased cost of leasing a lower quality stadium with almost no high $$ Luxury Box facilities like we have today at Sun Life. At least at Sun Life UM makes money on selling Luxury boxes & parking they lease from the Fins. At the downtown MLS site that parking money will go to private property owners so UM won't get much money for the limited stadium parking the city would keep the $$$. College football is about making money and when you lose money you fold the team like UM did to our basketball program in the mid 70's since it lost money. That 40K max seating, lower quality MLS stadium with higher ticket prices, 13 thousands less ticket sales, no parking and few Luxury Boxes looks like a major gamble to be successful raising more money than we do even today.

FAU game - 50,151 in attendance
UF game - 76, 968 in attendance
Savannah St - 42, 571 in attendance
Georgia Tech - 47, 008 in attendance
Wake Forest - 66, 160 in attendance
Virgina Tech - 49, 267 in attendance
Virginia - 44, 732 in attendance

Miami had a 13% increase in ticket sales in 2013 over 2012 for a grand total of 376,857 tickets sold that averaged 53,837 tickets sold per game in 2013.

Hurricanes Football: Attendance History

On face value, I'll cede you the parking revenue. We have no idea about the luxury suite revenue at a new venue though. In relation to ticket revenue, those profits would be easily recouped as one shouldn't be able to buy a season ticket to a major program for less than $200 anyway. The FSU ticket alone at a venue that size will compel people to buy season tickets at a justified inflated rate. Just schedule a quality non-conf opponent in the FSU away game years. Do you really think $halala would be considering this if it wasn't financially viable? I don't see her as one to just be tossing us a bone on this so she can say "I tried". Not much is below her at her height but pandering to us probably is.

 

[Notsince1985]

Yeah, because everyone is calling Stanford a joke after they downsized to a 50k open air stadium. Beggars (and that's absolutely what we are on this subject) can't be choosers. There are no and will never be any other alternatives short of the Dolphins remodeling SLS.

Yeah, because 40,000 and 50,000 are the same. First, I said 50,000 needs to be the minimum. Second, Stanford never, unless they were playing Cal, and it wasn't even a guarantee then, drew well in their old stadium. We drew well, and well over 40,000 A LOT. And not just for FSU. For FSU, UF, Va Tech, Notre Dame, Washington, Boston College, East Carolina, Iowa, FAMU. Of off the top of my head, those are crowds over 65,000, and those were actual butts in the seats, not the crap we report now. I'm not delusional, I know how pathetic our attendance is now, and I know it's never been great, and I know it'll never be what "Big State School X" is, but to make a decision like this, and tie ourselves to this based on our attendance now, is near-sighted and ridiculous. If we want to be a winning program again, we have to plan for bigger crowds. Sure we've won and had bad crowds, such as some of the games in 2001, but look at some of the crowds against teams like BC in 2002 or East Carolina in 2003. You really want to limit yourself to a 40,000 seat stadium? Do that and you're now Duke, Wake Forest, Houston, Tulane, SMU, etc.

First of all this would be equivalent to Stanford Stadium sizewise except there would probably be an open end. On the water. Facing the skyline. In Miami. And it's new. And at least partially roofed. That kind of doesn't make us the schools you mentioned as people pull up in yachts and cruiseships pass what would easily be the most aesthetically pleasing venue in college sports.

I'm not disagreeing that we'd be ceding a point here by downsizing. I just think if we're realistic about it then we can admit that this is our best option as there's nothing realistic on the horizon and I lump your notion of planning for bigger crowds at SLS in the unrealistic column (not to mention unfair to the actual student population). I also guarantee that $halala can find a way to make an equivalent or more amount of money off of a smaller venue. I personally wouldn't hesitate a second to pay double my current season ticket price for a move to a better venue.

The reports are saying 40,000. Stanford's stadium is 50,000. Those 10,000 seats make a huge difference. If it's 50,000, I can live with it. If it's 40,000, I cannot. I have a hard time believing MLS will go for a 50,000 seat stadium, because they have made it clear, that unless your name is Seattle, you have to build a 18-30,000 seat Soccer specific stadium. I'm sure they would make an exception for one a little bigger, but I doubt they would be thrilled with Miami building a 50,000 seat stadium, unless they can close off an upper deck and not make it look like they're playing in a HUGE stadium that has tarps on half of the seats. That's exactly what MLS is trying to get away from. Lastly, about MLS, I doubt they want a stadium that big in Miami after the Fushion debacle.

Now, for the location and that draw. Yes, I understand a stadium downtown or at the Port of Miami makes it different than the stadiums and schools I listed. With that said, the novelty would wear off in a year, maybe two max, and then you'd be stuck with a small off campus stadium 7? 8? miles from campus. No one goes to anything around the AAA before or after Heat games. It's not like people are hanging out at Bayside (is still open? Still called Bayside?). I don't think people are going to be hanging out and partying in the area before and after the games. I highly doubt we're going to start a tradition like the Vol Navy in Knoxville where people take boats on the Tennessee River to Neyland Stadium or in Seattle where they do it to Husky Stadium.

Last point, we'd still be playing in someone's stadium. So we'd be still be paying rent, so I don't see how we're going to be making $$.

Sooooo, basically you're saying the novelty of a too small by your standards venue would wear off within a few years but you're counting on that same fickle fanbase to consistently fill cavernous SLS once we start winning regularly? How about we just split the difference and allow the 10000 fans you're so concerned about to just watch the games via closed circuit tv at SLS? Then they can go enjoy all the entertainment options that beautiful Miami Gardens has to offer after too. I hear the bar at The El Palacio is fantastic!

You're missing the point. I don't like the idea of capping it at 40,000. Our history shows that's too small. Unless we're content on being a 7-9 win team for eternity, 40,000 is too small. I think 50,000 is too small too (55,000 would be ideal), but I'm willing to compromise because I'd rather be in a 50,000 seat stadium than the 75,000 seat ****hole we're in now.

 

[Tad Footeball]

Yeah, because 40,000 and 50,000 are the same. First, I said 50,000 needs to be the minimum. Second, Stanford never, unless they were playing Cal, and it wasn't even a guarantee then, drew well in their old stadium. We drew well, and well over 40,000 A LOT. And not just for FSU. For FSU, UF, Va Tech, Notre Dame, Washington, Boston College, East Carolina, Iowa, FAMU. Of off the top of my head, those are crowds over 65,000, and those were actual butts in the seats, not the crap we report now. I'm not delusional, I know how pathetic our attendance is now, and I know it's never been great, and I know it'll never be what "Big State School X" is, but to make a decision like this, and tie ourselves to this based on our attendance now, is near-sighted and ridiculous. If we want to be a winning program again, we have to plan for bigger crowds. Sure we've won and had bad crowds, such as some of the games in 2001, but look at some of the crowds against teams like BC in 2002 or East Carolina in 2003. You really want to limit yourself to a 40,000 seat stadium? Do that and you're now Duke, Wake Forest, Houston, Tulane, SMU, etc.

First of all this would be equivalent to Stanford Stadium sizewise except there would probably be an open end. On the water. Facing the skyline. In Miami. And it's new. And at least partially roofed. That kind of doesn't make us the schools you mentioned as people pull up in yachts and cruiseships pass what would easily be the most aesthetically pleasing venue in college sports.

I'm not disagreeing that we'd be ceding a point here by downsizing. I just think if we're realistic about it then we can admit that this is our best option as there's nothing realistic on the horizon and I lump your notion of planning for bigger crowds at SLS in the unrealistic column (not to mention unfair to the actual student population). I also guarantee that $halala can find a way to make an equivalent or more amount of money off of a smaller venue. I personally wouldn't hesitate a second to pay double my current season ticket price for a move to a better venue.

The reports are saying 40,000. Stanford's stadium is 50,000. Those 10,000 seats make a huge difference. If it's 50,000, I can live with it. If it's 40,000, I cannot. I have a hard time believing MLS will go for a 50,000 seat stadium, because they have made it clear, that unless your name is Seattle, you have to build a 18-30,000 seat Soccer specific stadium. I'm sure they would make an exception for one a little bigger, but I doubt they would be thrilled with Miami building a 50,000 seat stadium, unless they can close off an upper deck and not make it look like they're playing in a HUGE stadium that has tarps on half of the seats. That's exactly what MLS is trying to get away from. Lastly, about MLS, I doubt they want a stadium that big in Miami after the Fushion debacle.

Now, for the location and that draw. Yes, I understand a stadium downtown or at the Port of Miami makes it different than the stadiums and schools I listed. With that said, the novelty would wear off in a year, maybe two max, and then you'd be stuck with a small off campus stadium 7? 8? miles from campus. No one goes to anything around the AAA before or after Heat games. It's not like people are hanging out at Bayside (is still open? Still called Bayside?). I don't think people are going to be hanging out and partying in the area before and after the games. I highly doubt we're going to start a tradition like the Vol Navy in Knoxville where people take boats on the Tennessee River to Neyland Stadium or in Seattle where they do it to Husky Stadium.

Last point, we'd still be playing in someone's stadium. So we'd be still be paying rent, so I don't see how we're going to be making $$.

Sooooo, basically you're saying the novelty of a too small by your standards venue would wear off within a few years but you're counting on that same fickle fanbase to consistently fill cavernous SLS once we start winning regularly? How about we just split the difference and allow the 10000 fans you're so concerned about to just watch the games via closed circuit tv at SLS? Then they can go enjoy all the entertainment options that beautiful Miami Gardens has to offer after too. I hear the bar at The El Palacio is fantastic!

You're missing the point. I don't like the idea of capping it at 40,000. Our history shows that's too small. Unless we're content on being a 7-9 win team for eternity, 40,000 is too small. I think 50,000 is too small too (55,000 would be ideal), but I'm willing to compromise because I'd rather be in a 50,000 seat stadium than the 75,000 seat ****hole we're in now.

Are you privy to some potential plan to build a stadium of that size? I agree that a venue in the capacity range you described would be optimal. I'm just not of the mindset that we should let the perfect (and non-existent) be the enemy of the good here. And I think this plan as constituted could be really good. Plus, if it turns out we actually do need those extra 10000 seats then we just expand in around 5 years after Beckham's team has folded.

 

[AntwanJ306]

our total attendance or ticket sales will go down.

but what about ACTUAL attendance. *** in seats?

if capacity is reduced, less seats will be given to students and ticket prices will inevitably go up.

so ticket revenue may not take that much of a hit.

fans who go to the games will WANT to be there.

with the right stadium modifications, seats close to the field, roof over the fans to close in the noise, we may get a pretty rowdy atmosphere.

also that view will be sick, and our facilities will not drag so far behind everyone else.


can this be the silver lining of the giant cloud we just had?

Truth. The demand for tickets will be out the roof with only 30,000 available for paying fans.

 

[dmcanes]

 

[Tad Footeball]

our total attendance or ticket sales will go down.

but what about ACTUAL attendance. *** in seats?

if capacity is reduced, less seats will be given to students and ticket prices will inevitably go up.

so ticket revenue may not take that much of a hit.

fans who go to the games will WANT to be there.

with the right stadium modifications, seats close to the field, roof over the fans to close in the noise, we may get a pretty rowdy atmosphere.

also that view will be sick, and our facilities will not drag so far behind everyone else.


can this be the silver lining of the giant cloud we just had?

Truth. The demand for tickets will be out the roof with only 30,000 available for paying fans.

Yep. It's almost similar to the nightlife industry here in certain regards. Clubs all went to the "ultralounge" bottle service type model as opposed to catering the masses buying well drinks all night. Not saying that the average fan would be squeezed out here but demand/price for tickets would definitely go up- if there would even be any single game tickets available.

 

[valid]

whats up with the color on the field? looks like the LOLphins aqua color.

 

[Cane7451]

FAU game - 50,151 in attendance
UF game - 76, 968 in attendance
Savannah St - 42, 571 in attendance
Georgia Tech - 47, 008 in attendance
Wake Forest - 66, 160 in attendance
Virgina Tech - 49, 267 in attendance
Virginia - 44, 732 in attendance

Miami had a 13% increase in ticket sales in 2013 over 2012 for a grand total of 376,857 tickets sold that averaged 53,837 tickets sold per game in 2013.

Hurricanes Football: Attendance History

L O Freaking L if you believe those numbers. I guarantee we need 45K at max for all games not involving FSU/UF/some other big, big name school that travels. Anybody that thinks we need above 45K needs their head examined. UM would do quite well with that size stadium for many, many reasons. I'll try to be brief.

First of all, stadiums are going to get smaller, not larger. Reasons include the dwindling baby boomer ticket holders that will be more stingy than ever with their entertainment dollars, the current generation of 30-40 somethings that are squeezed by a tight economy, and most importantly, the advent of HDTV, and smartphone/smart tv apps that lead to the decline of the consumer needs to attend games. Future stadiums will be renovated for smaller capacity, wired for sound, and made wifi friendly.

And by the way, that anguish you hear is from athletic directors that are absolutely freaked out by the average college kid that seemingly has limited interest in attending football games. You know its serious when even SEC schools are freaking out about it. Baby boomers are within 10 years of turning in their tickets for good which presents a huge problem. Who will replace them?

Yes I believe those are the number of tickets sold since UM has to pay taxes on that revenue as well as Sun Life gets a split out of every ticket sold just like we did in the Orange Bowl to the city for lease. Got any proof that UM didn't sell that amount of tickets since it sure would be stupid for UM to pay more to Sun Life and the IRS than we have to just to act like we have more fans buying tickets than we do.

Also, If you read the Herald's story they said " UM wants no fewer than 40,000 seats because it has about 30,000 season-ticket holders and allots 6000 seats for students and another 4000 to sell to the visiting team." You can't sell more tickets than you have seats and 40K gives Miami no extra room for when we play big games like Nebraska, Michigan State, FSU or some other major team. It would be point less to even schedule major teams since there is no extra revenue we would get.

Also, tell me how we make up for the high price tickets in the Club Section and Luxury box in a aluminum erector set stadium that is designed for soccer not football? Does soccer even use a Jumbo-Tron TV? Why would any fan pay a LOT more for a lower quality stadium that has no luxuries over where we play now?

How will you make money off of parking when even the Miami Heat can't manage that since private property owns most of the parking lots? MLS plays on Saturdays from March -through-November and we would get 2nd choice of game dates. Imagine having to move a FSU game to Tallahassee if the Miami MLS team makes the play off in November that are played on Saturday?

If you think it bad sharing a stadium with a NFL team then wait till you are sharing one with a MLS team that is trying to steal your fans sports dollars for their ticket sales by running promos during every game with banners posted on every wall of the next MLS game in the same stadium.

Fact with a 40K stadium, no parking, no high price club seats, no higher priced Luxury boxes, no revenue sharing of the concessions and paying a premium for the lease there is no way UM could make more money than we do today. UM got a cheaper deal at Sun Life than we paid for using the old Orange Bowl. That MLS stadium is a white elephant even before it is build.

 

[terra99pin]

Ferman is reporting this as a done deal. Says he's received a preliminary draft of a letter to season ticket holders and Hurricane Club members requesting an initial deposit for the 2016 season. Joaquin Gonzalez is confirming as well. Woooooooo!!!!! Finally!!!!!!!!

Was this supposed to be a joke? I see nothing on canesport about this...

 

[Tad Footeball]

Ferman is reporting this as a done deal. Says he's received a preliminary draft of a letter to season ticket holders and Hurricane Club members requesting an initial deposit for the 2016 season. Joaquin Gonzalez is confirming as well. Woooooooo!!!!! Finally!!!!!!!!

Was this supposed to be a joke? I see nothing on canesport about this...

Yes. C'mon, you're better than this.

 

[terra99pin]

Ferman is reporting this as a done deal. Says he's received a preliminary draft of a letter to season ticket holders and Hurricane Club members requesting an initial deposit for the 2016 season. Joaquin Gonzalez is confirming as well. Woooooooo!!!!! Finally!!!!!!!!

Was this supposed to be a joke? I see nothing on canesport about this...

Yes. C'mon, you're better than this.

Ha, just checking. Didn't understand the dig at Joaquin.