Soccer stadium

Are you privy to some potential plan to build a stadium of that size? I agree that a venue in the capacity range you described would be optimal. I'm just not of the mindset that we should let the perfect (and non-existent) be the enemy of the good here. And I think this plan as constituted could be really good. Plus, if it turns out we actually do need those extra 10000 seats then we just expand in around 5 years after Beckham's team has folded.

This Miami Herald article has already said "UM is not interested in financing the stadium."

Have you ever been to the downtown area between BaySide, Heat's AAA and the Port of Miami? There is no parking for additional 40K stadium. Parking near the AAA for the Heat goes for $50 now. How much would it be when both the Heat and UM are playing the same time? Between people parking for cruse ships that depart Saturday, the Heat having games on Saturday there is no way people could find parking for all the games. There is no way we could ever expand and UM isn't going to pay for for the stadium or any expansions. The city/county owns the land so it would be stupid to spend money on land you don't even own. If Bechham's MLS team folded the City would tear down the stadium sell all the aluminum erector set seating and return it to Port of Miami business that would surely be able to pay better than a stadium UM uses 6 or 7 days a year.


I only think Donna is showing interest in this to work Stephen M. Ross for lowing our lease at Sun Life. Also, I think Donna is working Beckham for big $$$ donations to UM for helping him politically get the Downtown area for his MLS team. Beckham wants the downtown site and the city wants to put him next to Marlin's Park that is too small for a 40K stadium. Beckham is just trying to leverage UM's stadium till he can secure the downtown site and then could care less what UM does since they are direct competitor to his team for sports dollars.
 
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Ferman is reporting this as a done deal. Says he's received a preliminary draft of a letter to season ticket holders and Hurricane Club members requesting an initial deposit for the 2016 season. Joaquin Gonzalez is confirming as well. Woooooooo!!!!! Finally!!!!!!!!

Was this supposed to be a joke? I see nothing on canesport about this...

Yes. C'mon, you're better than this.

Ha, just checking. Didn't understand the dig at Joaquin.

He was a cited "source" by some during the Jon Gruden to Coral Gables saga.
 
Are you privy to some potential plan to build a stadium of that size? I agree that a venue in the capacity range you described would be optimal. I'm just not of the mindset that we should let the perfect (and non-existent) be the enemy of the good here. And I think this plan as constituted could be really good. Plus, if it turns out we actually do need those extra 10000 seats then we just expand in around 5 years after Beckham's team has folded.

This Miami Herald article has already said "UM is not interested in financing the stadium."

Have you ever been to the downtown area between BaySide, Heat's AAA and the Port of Miami? There is no parking for additional 40K stadium. Parking near the AAA for the Heat goes for $50 now. How much would it be when both the Heat and UM are playing the same time? Between people parking for cruse ships that depart Saturday, the Heat having games on Saturday there is no way people could find parking for all the games. There is no way we could ever expand and UM isn't going to pay for for the stadium or any expansions. The city/county owns the land so it would be stupid to spend money on land you don't even own. If Bechham's MLS team folded the City would tear down the stadium sell all the aluminum erector set seating and return it to Port of Miami business that would surely be able to pay better than a stadium UM uses 6 or 7 days a year.


I only think Donna is showing interest in this to work Stephen M. Ross for lowing our lease at Sun Life. Also, I think Donna is working Beckham for big $$$ donations to UM for helping him politically get the Downtown area for his MLS team. Beckham wants the downtown site and the city wants to put him next to Marlin's Park that is too small for a 40K stadium. Beckham is just trying to leverage UM's stadium till he can secure the downtown site and then could care less what UM does since they are direct competitor to his team for sports dollars.

My comment about Beckham's team folding and UM paying for an expansion was facetious. In relation to the parking, it's roughly 7 home dates a year. I'm pretty sure we could schedule to avoid conflicts with the Heat- or vice versa. The rest of your comments are all speculative and based on your inside baseball assumptions. I'm content on debating this on face value as it's fun to dream of something better than SLS for now and Barry Jackson's report actually does fly in the face of all of those that have been all so quick to instantly dismiss the idea as though said dismissal makes them smarter than all of us wanting a better venue. It's the same crowd that somehow finds joy when new uniforms don't materialize each year.
 
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Our admin is mom and pop.

Total joke.

Our admin leads a top 50 university and has raised billions. You?

Naturally, though, when they are trying to do exactly what this board wants them to do (get a new stadium), they still get blasted by the board.

I got my Masters Degree there.

You?

STFU

Master's Degree? LMFAO. Yeah, that's unique.

Donna Shalala raises billions and is one of the most respected leaders in the country. You have your Master's degree. Sounds about the same. Thanks for clearing that up.
 
Are you privy to some potential plan to build a stadium of that size? I agree that a venue in the capacity range you described would be optimal. I'm just not of the mindset that we should let the perfect (and non-existent) be the enemy of the good here. And I think this plan as constituted could be really good. Plus, if it turns out we actually do need those extra 10000 seats then we just expand in around 5 years after Beckham's team has folded.

This Miami Herald article has already said "UM is not interested in financing the stadium."

Have you ever been to the downtown area between BaySide, Heat's AAA and the Port of Miami? There is no parking for additional 40K stadium. Parking near the AAA for the Heat goes for $50 now. How much would it be when both the Heat and UM are playing the same time? Between people parking for cruse ships that depart Saturday, the Heat having games on Saturday there is no way people could find parking for all the games. There is no way we could ever expand and UM isn't going to pay for for the stadium or any expansions. The city/county owns the land so it would be stupid to spend money on land you don't even own. If Bechham's MLS team folded the City would tear down the stadium sell all the aluminum erector set seating and return it to Port of Miami business that would surely be able to pay better than a stadium UM uses 6 or 7 days a year.


I only think Donna is showing interest in this to work Stephen M. Ross for lowing our lease at Sun Life. Also, I think Donna is working Beckham for big $$$ donations to UM for helping him politically get the Downtown area for his MLS team. Beckham wants the downtown site and the city wants to put him next to Marlin's Park that is too small for a 40K stadium. Beckham is just trying to leverage UM's stadium till he can secure the downtown site and then could care less what UM does since they are direct competitor to his team for sports dollars.

Metro rail can take on a lot (& every student attending) of that traffic if it's in downtown..
 
You should see the Fontainebleau's parking plan for its casino. While parking would be a major logistical challenge, it can be worked out. It comes down to money.
 
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Are you privy to some potential plan to build a stadium of that size? I agree that a venue in the capacity range you described would be optimal. I'm just not of the mindset that we should let the perfect (and non-existent) be the enemy of the good here. And I think this plan as constituted could be really good. Plus, if it turns out we actually do need those extra 10000 seats then we just expand in around 5 years after Beckham's team has folded.

This Miami Herald article has already said "UM is not interested in financing the stadium."

Have you ever been to the downtown area between BaySide, Heat's AAA and the Port of Miami? There is no parking for additional 40K stadium. Parking near the AAA for the Heat goes for $50 now. How much would it be when both the Heat and UM are playing the same time? Between people parking for cruse ships that depart Saturday, the Heat having games on Saturday there is no way people could find parking for all the games. There is no way we could ever expand and UM isn't going to pay for for the stadium or any expansions. The city/county owns the land so it would be stupid to spend money on land you don't even own. If Bechham's MLS team folded the City would tear down the stadium sell all the aluminum erector set seating and return it to Port of Miami business that would surely be able to pay better than a stadium UM uses 6 or 7 days a year.


I only think Donna is showing interest in this to work Stephen M. Ross for lowing our lease at Sun Life. Also, I think Donna is working Beckham for big $$$ donations to UM for helping him politically get the Downtown area for his MLS team. Beckham wants the downtown site and the city wants to put him next to Marlin's Park that is too small for a 40K stadium. Beckham is just trying to leverage UM's stadium till he can secure the downtown site and then could care less what UM does since they are direct competitor to his team for sports dollars.

My comment about Beckham's team folding and UM paying for an expansion was facetious. In relation to the parking, it's roughly 7 home dates a year. I'm pretty sure we could schedule to avoid conflicts with the Heat- or vice versa. The rest of your comments are all speculative and based on your inside baseball assumptions. I'm content on debating this on face value as it's fun to dream of something better than SLS for now and Barry Jackson's report actually does fly in the face of all of those that have been all so quick to instantly dismiss the idea as though said dismissal makes them smarter than all of us wanting a better venue. It's the same crowd that somehow finds joy when new uniforms don't materialize each year.

you're correct. He's the crowd that fits perfectly into George Bernard Shaw's quote" People who say it cannot be done should not interrupt those who are doing it".
 
If the University thinks that staying at No-Life might be good financially over the long term, then they need to keep in mind what ESPN's contract with the ACC stipulates and imagine 12 years of noon games.


If the Beckham group offers us the ability to be tenants at a stadium with at least partial cover for fans, they'd be fools not to take it, unless capacity ends up being the deal breaker.
 
Are you privy to some potential plan to build a stadium of that size? I agree that a venue in the capacity range you described would be optimal. I'm just not of the mindset that we should let the perfect (and non-existent) be the enemy of the good here. And I think this plan as constituted could be really good. Plus, if it turns out we actually do need those extra 10000 seats then we just expand in around 5 years after Beckham's team has folded.

This Miami Herald article has already said "UM is not interested in financing the stadium."

Have you ever been to the downtown area between BaySide, Heat's AAA and the Port of Miami? There is no parking for additional 40K stadium. Parking near the AAA for the Heat goes for $50 now. How much would it be when both the Heat and UM are playing the same time? Between people parking for cruse ships that depart Saturday, the Heat having games on Saturday there is no way people could find parking for all the games. There is no way we could ever expand and UM isn't going to pay for for the stadium or any expansions. The city/county owns the land so it would be stupid to spend money on land you don't even own. If Bechham's MLS team folded the City would tear down the stadium sell all the aluminum erector set seating and return it to Port of Miami business that would surely be able to pay better than a stadium UM uses 6 or 7 days a year.


I only think Donna is showing interest in this to work Stephen M. Ross for lowing our lease at Sun Life. Also, I think Donna is working Beckham for big $$$ donations to UM for helping him politically get the Downtown area for his MLS team. Beckham wants the downtown site and the city wants to put him next to Marlin's Park that is too small for a 40K stadium. Beckham is just trying to leverage UM's stadium till he can secure the downtown site and then could care less what UM does since they are direct competitor to his team for sports dollars.

My comment about Beckham's team folding and UM paying for an expansion was facetious. In relation to the parking, it's roughly 7 home dates a year. I'm pretty sure we could schedule to avoid conflicts with the Heat- or vice versa. The rest of your comments are all speculative and based on your inside baseball assumptions. I'm content on debating this on face value as it's fun to dream of something better than SLS for now and Barry Jackson's report actually does fly in the face of all of those that have been all so quick to instantly dismiss the idea as though said dismissal makes them smarter than all of us wanting a better venue. It's the same crowd that somehow finds joy when new uniforms don't materialize each year.


How could it be a better venue than Sun Life? I dream it will be a cheap aluminum erector set stadium that is designed for soccer not football and is far too small for UM. It's not on campus and in area that gets grid lock traffic with cruise ships leaving on Saturdays and the Heat that are using all the parking at $50 a spot for night games. I see no tailgating areas and a major lack of parking even if the Heat aren't playing. MLS plays on Saturday nights and I see major conflicts on our schedule. This won't be UM's stadium we would be leasing it for more money than we pay now for a much lesser facility. Great it may have a better scenic view but I could care less about the scenic view. The sidelines distances will be about the same as they are at Sun Life. There won't be two big Jumbo Trons. There will be no income from parking and just a tiny fraction of the club seats and luxury boxes we have now that provides major income for UM.

Beckham is just using UM to try to get the Downtown site since that is bigger since the city is trying to force him onto the Marlin Park site that too small for a 40K stadium. Don't get your hope up since the day Beckham gets that downtown site he will do everything he can to ditch UM to build a stadium that fits his needs not UM's. After all it is Beckham's money and he doesn't care about the U that is a direct competitor for sports $$$ with overlapping seasons that both play on Saturdays. Beckham has a budget of about $80M and that won't build a stadium that will fit 40K. Beckham isn't going to raise another $80M to build UM a stadium and UM has already said it isn't financing the stadium.

Please tell me the advantage of UM making a whole lot less revenue $$$ just so our stadium looks full on National TV? The Noles and Gators will kill us in recruiting playing in a tiny soccer stadium.
 
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First of all this would be equivalent to Stanford Stadium sizewise except there would probably be an open end. On the water. Facing the skyline. In Miami. And it's new. And at least partially roofed. That kind of doesn't make us the schools you mentioned as people pull up in yachts and cruiseships pass what would easily be the most aesthetically pleasing venue in college sports.

I'm not disagreeing that we'd be ceding a point here by downsizing. I just think if we're realistic about it then we can admit that this is our best option as there's nothing realistic on the horizon and I lump your notion of planning for bigger crowds at SLS in the unrealistic column (not to mention unfair to the actual student population). I also guarantee that $halala can find a way to make an equivalent or more amount of money off of a smaller venue. I personally wouldn't hesitate a second to pay double my current season ticket price for a move to a better venue.

The reports are saying 40,000. Stanford's stadium is 50,000. Those 10,000 seats make a huge difference. If it's 50,000, I can live with it. If it's 40,000, I cannot. I have a hard time believing MLS will go for a 50,000 seat stadium, because they have made it clear, that unless your name is Seattle, you have to build a 18-30,000 seat Soccer specific stadium. I'm sure they would make an exception for one a little bigger, but I doubt they would be thrilled with Miami building a 50,000 seat stadium, unless they can close off an upper deck and not make it look like they're playing in a HUGE stadium that has tarps on half of the seats. That's exactly what MLS is trying to get away from. Lastly, about MLS, I doubt they want a stadium that big in Miami after the Fushion debacle.

Now, for the location and that draw. Yes, I understand a stadium downtown or at the Port of Miami makes it different than the stadiums and schools I listed. With that said, the novelty would wear off in a year, maybe two max, and then you'd be stuck with a small off campus stadium 7? 8? miles from campus. No one goes to anything around the AAA before or after Heat games. It's not like people are hanging out at Bayside (is still open? Still called Bayside?). I don't think people are going to be hanging out and partying in the area before and after the games. I highly doubt we're going to start a tradition like the Vol Navy in Knoxville where people take boats on the Tennessee River to Neyland Stadium or in Seattle where they do it to Husky Stadium.

Last point, we'd still be playing in someone's stadium. So we'd be still be paying rent, so I don't see how we're going to be making $$.

Sooooo, basically you're saying the novelty of a too small by your standards venue would wear off within a few years but you're counting on that same fickle fanbase to consistently fill cavernous SLS once we start winning regularly? How about we just split the difference and allow the 10000 fans you're so concerned about to just watch the games via closed circuit tv at SLS? Then they can go enjoy all the entertainment options that beautiful Miami Gardens has to offer after too. I hear the bar at The El Palacio is fantastic!

You're missing the point. I don't like the idea of capping it at 40,000. Our history shows that's too small. Unless we're content on being a 7-9 win team for eternity, 40,000 is too small. I think 50,000 is too small too (55,000 would be ideal), but I'm willing to compromise because I'd rather be in a 50,000 seat stadium than the 75,000 seat ****hole we're in now.

Are you privy to some potential plan to build a stadium of that size? I agree that a venue in the capacity range you described would be optimal. I'm just not of the mindset that we should let the perfect (and non-existent) be the enemy of the good here. And I think this plan as constituted could be really good. Plus, if it turns out we actually do need those extra 10000 seats then we just expand in around 5 years after Beckham's team has folded.

From the article, but more importantly, I know what MLS has said in the past. I know that every single MLS team that plays (ed) in an NFL stadium has moved to an 18-28,000 soccer specific stadium or will move in the next 3-4 years, and every new team that is coming in is playing in small stadiums or building small stadiums, per MLS wishes (demands).
 
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Our admin is mom and pop.

Total joke.

Our admin leads a top 50 university and has raised billions. You?

Naturally, though, when they are trying to do exactly what this board wants them to do (get a new stadium), they still get blasted by the board.

I got my Masters Degree there.

You?

STFU

Master's Degree? LMFAO. Yeah, that's unique.

Donna Shalala raises billions and is one of the most respected leaders in the country. You have your Master's degree. Sounds about the same. Thanks for clearing that up.


Clearly another simpleton ****** who ties the academic's to the athletic's.

Being successful ACADEMICALLY does not in ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM tie into the FOOTBALL teams success and how the ATHLETIC DEPARTMENT is HANDLED.

Now go put your helmet back on and let the adults speak.

Furthermore her handling of the medical purchases has been a travesty along with her "fundraising" for athletic's.
 
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Anyone who thinks that playing in a virtually empty stadium nowhere near campus doesn't impact recruiting is kidding themselves. This would be great for the program. Unfortunately it will never happen, IMO.

First time in my life I'm pulling for soccer! Interesting that we'd take a 40000 seat venue and that the Port site is seemingly the most conducive of their options to the larger venue. Obviously still a long shot but more than just wishful thinking. I'll take it! First person to whine about traffic should get punched in the throat if it happens. I'd kill to be stuck on an offramp trying to get to the OB again.

Are you privy to some potential plan to build a stadium of that size? I agree that a venue in the capacity range you described would be optimal. I'm just not of the mindset that we should let the perfect (and non-existent) be the enemy of the good here. And I think this plan as constituted could be really good. Plus, if it turns out we actually do need those extra 10000 seats then we just expand in around 5 years after Beckham's team has folded.

This Miami Herald article has already said "UM is not interested in financing the stadium."

Have you ever been to the downtown area between BaySide, Heat's AAA and the Port of Miami? There is no parking for additional 40K stadium. Parking near the AAA for the Heat goes for $50 now. How much would it be when both the Heat and UM are playing the same time? Between people parking for cruse ships that depart Saturday, the Heat having games on Saturday there is no way people could find parking for all the games. There is no way we could ever expand and UM isn't going to pay for for the stadium or any expansions. The city/county owns the land so it would be stupid to spend money on land you don't even own. If Bechham's MLS team folded the City would tear down the stadium sell all the aluminum erector set seating and return it to Port of Miami business that would surely be able to pay better than a stadium UM uses 6 or 7 days a year.


I only think Donna is showing interest in this to work Stephen M. Ross for lowing our lease at Sun Life. Also, I think Donna is working Beckham for big $$$ donations to UM for helping him politically get the Downtown area for his MLS team. Beckham wants the downtown site and the city wants to put him next to Marlin's Park that is too small for a 40K stadium. Beckham is just trying to leverage UM's stadium till he can secure the downtown site and then could care less what UM does since they are direct competitor to his team for sports dollars.

My comment about Beckham's team folding and UM paying for an expansion was facetious. In relation to the parking, it's roughly 7 home dates a year. I'm pretty sure we could schedule to avoid conflicts with the Heat- or vice versa. The rest of your comments are all speculative and based on your inside baseball assumptions. I'm content on debating this on face value as it's fun to dream of something better than SLS for now and Barry Jackson's report actually does fly in the face of all of those that have been all so quick to instantly dismiss the idea as though said dismissal makes them smarter than all of us wanting a better venue. It's the same crowd that somehow finds joy when new uniforms don't materialize each year.


How could it be a better venue than Sun Life? I dream it will be a cheap aluminum erector set stadium that is designed for soccer not football and is far too small for UM. It's not on campus and in area that gets grid lock traffic with cruise ships leaving on Saturdays and the Heat that are using all the parking at $50 a spot for night games. I see no tailgating areas and a major lack of parking even if the Heat aren't playing. MLS plays on Saturday nights and I see major conflicts on our schedule. This won't be UM's stadium we would be leasing it for more money than we pay now for a much lesser facility. Great it may have a better scenic view but I could care less about the scenic view. The sidelines distances will be about the same as they are at Sun Life. There won't be two big Jumbo Trons. There will be no income from parking and just a tiny fraction of the club seats and luxury boxes we have now that provides major income for UM.

Beckham is just using UM to try to get the Downtown site since that is bigger since the city is trying to force him onto the Marlin Park site that too small for a 40K stadium. Don't get your hope up since the day Beckham gets that downtown site he will do everything he can to ditch UM to build a stadium that fits his needs not UM's. After all it is Beckham's money and he doesn't care about the U that is a direct competitor for sports $$$ with overlapping seasons that both play on Saturdays. Beckham has a budget of about $80M and that won't build a stadium that will fit 40K. Beckham isn't going to raise another $80M to build UM a stadium and UM has already said it isn't financing the stadium.

Please tell me the advantage of UM making a whole lot less revenue $$$ just so our stadium looks full on National TV? The Noles and Gators will kill us in recruiting playing in a tiny soccer stadium.

Do you realize the Noles and Gators are killing us in recruiting using SLS against us? That stadium is a joke.
 
Are you privy to some potential plan to build a stadium of that size? I agree that a venue in the capacity range you described would be optimal. I'm just not of the mindset that we should let the perfect (and non-existent) be the enemy of the good here. And I think this plan as constituted could be really good. Plus, if it turns out we actually do need those extra 10000 seats then we just expand in around 5 years after Beckham's team has folded.

This Miami Herald article has already said "UM is not interested in financing the stadium."

Have you ever been to the downtown area between BaySide, Heat's AAA and the Port of Miami? There is no parking for additional 40K stadium. Parking near the AAA for the Heat goes for $50 now. How much would it be when both the Heat and UM are playing the same time? Between people parking for cruse ships that depart Saturday, the Heat having games on Saturday there is no way people could find parking for all the games. There is no way we could ever expand and UM isn't going to pay for for the stadium or any expansions. The city/county owns the land so it would be stupid to spend money on land you don't even own. If Bechham's MLS team folded the City would tear down the stadium sell all the aluminum erector set seating and return it to Port of Miami business that would surely be able to pay better than a stadium UM uses 6 or 7 days a year.


I only think Donna is showing interest in this to work Stephen M. Ross for lowing our lease at Sun Life. Also, I think Donna is working Beckham for big $$$ donations to UM for helping him politically get the Downtown area for his MLS team. Beckham wants the downtown site and the city wants to put him next to Marlin's Park that is too small for a 40K stadium. Beckham is just trying to leverage UM's stadium till he can secure the downtown site and then could care less what UM does since they are direct competitor to his team for sports dollars.

My comment about Beckham's team folding and UM paying for an expansion was facetious. In relation to the parking, it's roughly 7 home dates a year. I'm pretty sure we could schedule to avoid conflicts with the Heat- or vice versa. The rest of your comments are all speculative and based on your inside baseball assumptions. I'm content on debating this on face value as it's fun to dream of something better than SLS for now and Barry Jackson's report actually does fly in the face of all of those that have been all so quick to instantly dismiss the idea as though said dismissal makes them smarter than all of us wanting a better venue. It's the same crowd that somehow finds joy when new uniforms don't materialize each year.


How could it be better venue than Sun Life? I dream it will be a cheap aluminum erector set stadium that is designed for soccer not football and is far too small for UM. I see no tailgating areas and a major lack of parking even if the Heat aren't playing. MLS plays on Saturday nights and I see major conflicts on our schedule. This won't be UM's stadium we would be leasing it for more money than we pay now for a much lesser facility. Great it may have a better scenic view but I could care less about the view. The sidelines distances will be about the same as they are at Sun Life. There won't be two big Jumbo Trons. There will be no income from parking and just a tiny fraction of the club seats and luxury boxes we have now that provides major income for UM.

Beckham is just using UM to try to get the Downtown site since that is bigger since the city is trying to force him onto the Marlin Park site that too small for a 40K stadium. Don't get your hope up since the day Beckham gets that downtown lot he will do everything he can to ditch UM to build a stadium that fits his needs not UM's. After all it is Beckham's money and he doesn't care about the U that is a direct competitor for sports $$$ with overlapping seasons that both play on Saturdays.


The city is NOT trying to force Beckham into Marlins Stadium site. The city is NOT the lead on this deal, it's the County Mayor . The Marlin site is within the City of Miami. Have you heard the Mayor of Miami say a beep about this? Why not? Because, he is not forcing anyone to do anything with that site. There's no interest by Beckham nor the county on Marlin's site. As far as Beckham using UM to get Downtown site is laughable I know for a fact is not true. The County Mayor and Beckham have developed a very good relationship. The opportunity came knocking at UM's door This is a private investment. Beckham's needs has much revenue stream to justify an investment and make a profit, this is just basic business sense

For the county and Beckham's group, it's the port site. Principally for Beckham, its the urban setting and prime location. The county needs development in that area one way or another to generate revenue for its port debt. That location as been sitting idle for years!! Do you know of anyone rushing to pour development dollars into the location now? Nope.

If you think Beckham, and principally Simon Fuller, are going to attach themselves to a "cheap aluminum erector stadium" you're clueless. This will be a very nice stadium. I've seen the renderings. The kind of stadium that will attract good European soccer teams to play at the stadium against South/Central American teams, games which will be sold out, just like SLS, when it has held its soccer event. Do you really think that Beckham and Fuller are thinking only local? What do you think the crowd will be when "friendlies" with Real Madrid, Manchester United or any other team from South/Central American are arranged. Yep, sold out events. Beckham's name has that power, Fuller's business sense makes it viable.

I don't see how you can have "major" schedule conflicts on SIX games a year. THis is not baseball. The schedule can be worked around.The Heat normally don't play at noon or 3:30 on Saturdays. And if, they're playing at home that date So, leave the dramatics aside. I don't know about you but I rather have the loud/high decibels of fans from a packed stadium, than blasting music from a jumbo tron in between plays.

This will come to numbers/dollars, and smaller variables. The rest of your negativity can be overcomed or accommodated.
 
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Are you privy to some potential plan to build a stadium of that size? I agree that a venue in the capacity range you described would be optimal. I'm just not of the mindset that we should let the perfect (and non-existent) be the enemy of the good here. And I think this plan as constituted could be really good. Plus, if it turns out we actually do need those extra 10000 seats then we just expand in around 5 years after Beckham's team has folded.

This Miami Herald article has already said "UM is not interested in financing the stadium."

Have you ever been to the downtown area between BaySide, Heat's AAA and the Port of Miami? There is no parking for additional 40K stadium. Parking near the AAA for the Heat goes for $50 now. How much would it be when both the Heat and UM are playing the same time? Between people parking for cruse ships that depart Saturday, the Heat having games on Saturday there is no way people could find parking for all the games. There is no way we could ever expand and UM isn't going to pay for for the stadium or any expansions. The city/county owns the land so it would be stupid to spend money on land you don't even own. If Bechham's MLS team folded the City would tear down the stadium sell all the aluminum erector set seating and return it to Port of Miami business that would surely be able to pay better than a stadium UM uses 6 or 7 days a year.


I only think Donna is showing interest in this to work Stephen M. Ross for lowing our lease at Sun Life. Also, I think Donna is working Beckham for big $$$ donations to UM for helping him politically get the Downtown area for his MLS team. Beckham wants the downtown site and the city wants to put him next to Marlin's Park that is too small for a 40K stadium. Beckham is just trying to leverage UM's stadium till he can secure the downtown site and then could care less what UM does since they are direct competitor to his team for sports dollars.

My comment about Beckham's team folding and UM paying for an expansion was facetious. In relation to the parking, it's roughly 7 home dates a year. I'm pretty sure we could schedule to avoid conflicts with the Heat- or vice versa. The rest of your comments are all speculative and based on your inside baseball assumptions. I'm content on debating this on face value as it's fun to dream of something better than SLS for now and Barry Jackson's report actually does fly in the face of all of those that have been all so quick to instantly dismiss the idea as though said dismissal makes them smarter than all of us wanting a better venue. It's the same crowd that somehow finds joy when new uniforms don't materialize each year.


How could it be better venue than Sun Life? I dream it will be a cheap aluminum erector set stadium that is designed for soccer not football and is far too small for UM. I see no tailgating areas and a major lack of parking even if the Heat aren't playing. MLS plays on Saturday nights and I see major conflicts on our schedule. This won't be UM's stadium we would be leasing it for more money than we pay now for a much lesser facility. Great it may have a better scenic view but I could care less about the view. The sidelines distances will be about the same as they are at Sun Life. There won't be two big Jumbo Trons. There will be no income from parking and just a tiny fraction of the club seats and luxury boxes we have now that provides major income for UM.

Beckham is just using UM to try to get the Downtown site since that is bigger since the city is trying to force him onto the Marlin Park site that too small for a 40K stadium. Don't get your hope up since the day Beckham gets that downtown lot he will do everything he can to ditch UM to build a stadium that fits his needs not UM's. After all it is Beckham's money and he doesn't care about the U that is a direct competitor for sports $$$ with overlapping seasons that both play on Saturdays.


The city is NOT trying to force Beckham into Marlins Stadium site. The city is NOT the lead on this deal, it's the County Mayor . The Marlin site is within the City of Miami. Have you heard the Mayor of Miami say a beep about this? Why not? Because, he is not forcing anyone to do anything with that site. There's no interest by Beckham nor the county on Marlin's site. As far as Beckham using UM to get Downtown site is laughable I know for a fact is not true. The County Mayor and Beckham have developed a very good relationship. The opportunity came knocking at UM's door This is a private investment. Beckham's needs has much revenue stream to justify an investment and make a profit, this is just basic business sense

For the county and Beckham's group, it's the port site. Principally for Beckham, its the urban setting and prime location. The county needs development in that area one way or another to generate revenue for its port debt. That location as been sitting idle for years!! Do you know of anyone rushing to pour development dollars into the location now? Nope.

If you think Beckham, and principally Simon Fuller, are going to attach themselves to a "cheap aluminum erector stadium" you're clueless. This will be a very nice stadium. I've seen the renderings. The kind of stadium that will attract good European soccer teams to play at the stadium against South/Central American teams, games which will be sold out, just like SLS, when it has held its soccer event. Do you really think that Beckham and Fuller are thinking only local? What do you think the crowd will be when "friendlies" with Real Madrid, Manchester United or any other team from South/Central American are arranged. Yep, sold out events. Beckham's name has that power, Fuller's business sense makes it viable.

I don't see how you can have "major" schedule conflicts on SIX games a year. THis is not baseball. The schedule can be worked around.The Heat normally don't play at noon or 3:30 on Saturdays. And if, they're playing at home that date So, leave the dramatics aside. I don't know about you but I rather have the loud/high decibels of fans from a packed stadium, than blasting music from a jumbo tron in between plays.

This will come to numbers/dollars, and smaller variables. The rest of your negativity can be overcomed or accommodated.

According to this article last week "“The city showed David land near Marlins Park,” the source added, “and that location is getting a new life.”


Keep dreaming that Beckham will raise extra money to build UM a stadium for 40K out of his budget. UM has said they aren't going to finance a stadium. I pulled this picture from Google Earth of the SW corner of Dodge Island where Beckham wants to build a stadium. It's a terrible place for UM to have our stadium. The only way to access Port of Miami is by Port Boulevard via NE Sixth Street which also happens to be the busiest spot in the entire city. There is no parking for 20K much less 40K and have people walk across that bridge.

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Read this article that is just talking about a 25K soccer stadium not the extra traffic from a 40K or larger football stadium.

PortMiami Is a Terrible Location for David Beckham's Stadium, and Here's Why
 
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Give us a stadium that holds 50k w/ a retractable option to holds 62k....period. Close to the school. I think the soccer stadium is a great idea for us, IF it holds 50k at least...if not, no bueno. But just talks about moving closer to home in a new stadium got me juiced!!! And the fact that James is on board makes me even happier
 
Beckham has 80 million? He's about 1 Billion short for a football stadium.
 
This Miami Herald article has already said "UM is not interested in financing the stadium."

Have you ever been to the downtown area between BaySide, Heat's AAA and the Port of Miami? There is no parking for additional 40K stadium. Parking near the AAA for the Heat goes for $50 now. How much would it be when both the Heat and UM are playing the same time? Between people parking for cruse ships that depart Saturday, the Heat having games on Saturday there is no way people could find parking for all the games. There is no way we could ever expand and UM isn't going to pay for for the stadium or any expansions. The city/county owns the land so it would be stupid to spend money on land you don't even own. If Bechham's MLS team folded the City would tear down the stadium sell all the aluminum erector set seating and return it to Port of Miami business that would surely be able to pay better than a stadium UM uses 6 or 7 days a year.


I only think Donna is showing interest in this to work Stephen M. Ross for lowing our lease at Sun Life. Also, I think Donna is working Beckham for big $$$ donations to UM for helping him politically get the Downtown area for his MLS team. Beckham wants the downtown site and the city wants to put him next to Marlin's Park that is too small for a 40K stadium. Beckham is just trying to leverage UM's stadium till he can secure the downtown site and then could care less what UM does since they are direct competitor to his team for sports dollars.

My comment about Beckham's team folding and UM paying for an expansion was facetious. In relation to the parking, it's roughly 7 home dates a year. I'm pretty sure we could schedule to avoid conflicts with the Heat- or vice versa. The rest of your comments are all speculative and based on your inside baseball assumptions. I'm content on debating this on face value as it's fun to dream of something better than SLS for now and Barry Jackson's report actually does fly in the face of all of those that have been all so quick to instantly dismiss the idea as though said dismissal makes them smarter than all of us wanting a better venue. It's the same crowd that somehow finds joy when new uniforms don't materialize each year.


How could it be better venue than Sun Life? I dream it will be a cheap aluminum erector set stadium that is designed for soccer not football and is far too small for UM. I see no tailgating areas and a major lack of parking even if the Heat aren't playing. MLS plays on Saturday nights and I see major conflicts on our schedule. This won't be UM's stadium we would be leasing it for more money than we pay now for a much lesser facility. Great it may have a better scenic view but I could care less about the view. The sidelines distances will be about the same as they are at Sun Life. There won't be two big Jumbo Trons. There will be no income from parking and just a tiny fraction of the club seats and luxury boxes we have now that provides major income for UM.

Beckham is just using UM to try to get the Downtown site since that is bigger since the city is trying to force him onto the Marlin Park site that too small for a 40K stadium. Don't get your hope up since the day Beckham gets that downtown lot he will do everything he can to ditch UM to build a stadium that fits his needs not UM's. After all it is Beckham's money and he doesn't care about the U that is a direct competitor for sports $$$ with overlapping seasons that both play on Saturdays.


The city is NOT trying to force Beckham into Marlins Stadium site. The city is NOT the lead on this deal, it's the County Mayor . The Marlin site is within the City of Miami. Have you heard the Mayor of Miami say a beep about this? Why not? Because, he is not forcing anyone to do anything with that site. There's no interest by Beckham nor the county on Marlin's site. As far as Beckham using UM to get Downtown site is laughable I know for a fact is not true. The County Mayor and Beckham have developed a very good relationship. The opportunity came knocking at UM's door This is a private investment. Beckham's needs has much revenue stream to justify an investment and make a profit, this is just basic business sense

For the county and Beckham's group, it's the port site. Principally for Beckham, its the urban setting and prime location. The county needs development in that area one way or another to generate revenue for its port debt. That location as been sitting idle for years!! Do you know of anyone rushing to pour development dollars into the location now? Nope.

If you think Beckham, and principally Simon Fuller, are going to attach themselves to a "cheap aluminum erector stadium" you're clueless. This will be a very nice stadium. I've seen the renderings. The kind of stadium that will attract good European soccer teams to play at the stadium against South/Central American teams, games which will be sold out, just like SLS, when it has held its soccer event. Do you really think that Beckham and Fuller are thinking only local? What do you think the crowd will be when "friendlies" with Real Madrid, Manchester United or any other team from South/Central American are arranged. Yep, sold out events. Beckham's name has that power, Fuller's business sense makes it viable.

I don't see how you can have "major" schedule conflicts on SIX games a year. THis is not baseball. The schedule can be worked around.The Heat normally don't play at noon or 3:30 on Saturdays. And if, they're playing at home that date So, leave the dramatics aside. I don't know about you but I rather have the loud/high decibels of fans from a packed stadium, than blasting music from a jumbo tron in between plays.

This will come to numbers/dollars, and smaller variables. The rest of your negativity can be overcomed or accommodated.

According to this article last week "“The city showed David land near Marlins Park,” the source added, “and that location is getting a new life.”


Keep dreaming that Beckham will raise extra money to build UM a stadium for 40K out of his budget. UM has said they aren't going to finance a stadium. I pulled this picture from Google Earth of the SW corner of Dodge Island where Beckham wants to build a stadium. It's a terrible place for UM to have our stadium. The only way to access Port of Miami is by Port Boulevard via NE Sixth Street which also happens to be the busiest spot in the entire city. There is no parking for 20K much less 40K and have people walk across that bridge.



Read this article that is just talking about a 25K soccer stadium not the extra traffic from a 40K or larger football stadium.

PortMiami Is a Terrible Location for David Beckham's Stadium, and Here's Why

And they have seen other sites also. It is a political gesture. The first and foremost area is the port. Again, Beckham is NOT only thinking of UM for capacity only but other events to increase revenue. Use some common sense. As for traffic, it's Saturday, no work week traffic. Furthermore, the Port of Miami tunnel takes you straight into the port avoiding city traffic Additionally, you have Metrorail/Metromover route that leaves you right in the area or take a trolley ride. The whole Downtown area has plenty of parking on a Saturday with immediate access to Metromover. This urban setting stadium is perfect for the university
 
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