Rob Chudzinski is the only answer......

[Jedi Master Cane]

Trestman?? Jeez.

Not sure what you mean by this...he's a **** of a coach. Success or lack thereof at the NFL level is in no way an indicator of how good a college coach a person is. Saban and Petrino both struggled in the league and most of us would cut off a body part to have either of them here.

And to be clear, I'm in no way insinuating he should be a candidate at this point, I'm not naive enough to think we'd even have a chance. My point was simply that's the TYPE of guy we should go after. An aggressive, intelligent, offensive mind.

 

[UMFarArcher]

Butch Frikkin' Davis.

 

[TedHendricksOffspring]

Butch Davis lied to Miami and was involved in a huge scandal at UNC.

Have you forgotten our history?

Miami will never hire Butch Davis.

Alright. Let's try this again.

I have heard with my own two ears 6 members of the BOT, multiple donors, and members of the athletic department say that Butch is not off the table. The people at Miami now weren't there in 2000/2001 so who ****ed over who doesn't really matter at this point. His UNC happenings are concerning, but far from the end for him if he truly was found 100% innocent. Just on Monday, both the general office and the athletic department were flooded with, "Hire Butch," emails. He has an uphill battle, but he is may very well be the next coach.

As far Chud is concerned, he's my third choice after Butch and Stoops even though I disagree with your analysis and reasons for hiring him. No need to put Butch down to try and make Chud seem like the better candidate.

Do you not like Schiano or you don't think he'd be interested?

I mean...to me he's a no brainer hire if he wanted the job.

I like Schiano as a coach and hate him as a person. He would be interested in the job. But what I feel is irrelevant. He's not considered an option for the job by the admin because of the issues with player health and safety when he was in Tampa Bay. Not a bad selection you bring up, though.

And back to Chud, he has expressed zero interest for the job before and I don't know why he would now if he thinks he can grab and NFL position.

Butch is NOT unhirable.

If the reason you cite above is really the reason he wouldn't be considered....

The the admins are an even bigger bunch of morons than what we've all taken them for. One guy is too "****y" another guy "practices his guys too hard"

With that mentality...we're ****ed no matter what. I'd personally look for both those traits in my next coach.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9...rs-player-tests-positive-mrsa-staph-infection

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap20...ucs-carl-nicks-has-surgery-to-get-rid-of-mrsa

http://www.tampabay.com/sports/football/bucs/bucs-kicker-tynes-returns-home-to-treat-mrsa/2138474

It's a little bit more than practicing them too hard and being too ****y. I've heard at least two BOT members and one sports admin criticize Golden for the lack of practicing. Schiano had players literally almost die on his watch and he tried to cover it up/blame the players. Coaching wise, I'd think he'd do fine but possible dead players is not something the admin wants on their hands. There's a better chance they hire Jerry Sandusky to be the coach than Schiano. Chud, however, will get a really good look if he wants in.

 

[Jedi Master Cane]

Alright. Let's try this again.

I have heard with my own two ears 6 members of the BOT, multiple donors, and members of the athletic department say that Butch is not off the table. The people at Miami now weren't there in 2000/2001 so who ****ed over who doesn't really matter at this point. His UNC happenings are concerning, but far from the end for him if he truly was found 100% innocent. Just on Monday, both the general office and the athletic department were flooded with, "Hire Butch," emails. He has an uphill battle, but he is may very well be the next coach.

As far Chud is concerned, he's my third choice after Butch and Stoops even though I disagree with your analysis and reasons for hiring him. No need to put Butch down to try and make Chud seem like the better candidate.

Do you not like Schiano or you don't think he'd be interested?

I mean...to me he's a no brainer hire if he wanted the job.

I like Schiano as a coach and hate him as a person. He would be interested in the job. But what I feel is irrelevant. He's not considered an option for the job by the admin because of the issues with player health and safety when he was in Tampa Bay. Not a bad selection you bring up, though.

And back to Chud, he has expressed zero interest for the job before and I don't know why he would now if he thinks he can grab and NFL position.

Butch is NOT unhirable.

If the reason you cite above is really the reason he wouldn't be considered....

The the admins are an even bigger bunch of morons than what we've all taken them for. One guy is too "****y" another guy "practices his guys too hard"

With that mentality...we're ****ed no matter what. I'd personally look for both those traits in my next coach.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9...rs-player-tests-positive-mrsa-staph-infection

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap20...ucs-carl-nicks-has-surgery-to-get-rid-of-mrsa

http://www.tampabay.com/sports/football/bucs/bucs-kicker-tynes-returns-home-to-treat-mrsa/2138474

It's a little bit more than practicing them too hard and being too ****y. I've heard at least two BOT members and one sports admin criticize Golden for the lack of practicing. Schiano had players literally almost die on his watch and he tried to cover it up/blame the players. Coaching wise, I'd think he'd do fine but possible dead players is not something the admin wants on their hands. There's a better chance they hire Jerry Sandusky to be the coach than Schiano. Chud, however, will get a really good look if he wants in.

The fact Schiano won't be considered is disheartening. If we don't go with an offensive guy I was really hoping they'd go with Schiano over Butch.

I continue to harbor serious reservations as to the thought process and leadership behind this program. I'm sure these people are successful in their respective disciplines and walks of life but they have zero understanding about what makes a quality head coach hire. We all want Golden gone but I fear for what mistake they might make next....they simply can't be trusted.

Then again they've made 3 miserable hires (and premature extensions) in a row. Another school of thought would be they are due to finally hit on something positive.

Let's all hope and pray.

 

[fincane]

What's bothering me is that this is four pages long and we know who's the guy.....Butch ***** Davis. He pleases every fan and every area we have concern.

No he doesn't.

Hiring Davis is like when USC tried to recapture the glory years and hired John Robinson. Or Pittsburgh with Johnny Majors. Feels desperate and a cop out.

Young and ambitious. With an eye for greatness. Thats the way it gets done at Miami. A guy who is never satisfied. Even if that means going to the NFL in 4-5 years.

 

[The []_[]]

My pick would be HC Mario Cristobal, former cane with sec ties now. Oc would still be James, Maybe Mario could bring his boy from fiu and current Mississippi state dc Geoff Collins over (more sec ties) to be our defensive coordinator . Hopefully snag travaris Robinson from UF and have him coach the db's. Get Kevin Patrick to coach our d line or maybe Mario can bring Tosh Lupoi from Bama with him even though I doubt we'd hire him because of all the accusations he's had against him. I'd leave the offensive staff the way it is. I'm sure we'd need a new WR coach because Brennan might be gone with Al. Defensively, dorito, jethro and Paul would be out. Hurlie would stay on as the special teams coordinator and Geoff would take over LBs.

 

[The Franchise]

What's bothering me is that this is four pages long and we know who's the guy.....Butch ***** Davis. He pleases every fan and every area we have concern.

No he doesn't.

Hiring Davis is like when USC tried to recapture the glory years and hired John Robinson. Or Pittsburgh with Johnny Majors. Feels desperate and a cop out.

Young and ambitious. With an eye for greatness. Thats the way it gets done at Miami. A guy who is never satisfied. Even if that means going to the NFL in 4-5 years.

Ron Prince. Young. Aggressive. Up and coming. Bill Snyder. Old. Grizzled. Glory years. How'd that go?

Comparing Davis to Robinson and Majors is unpersuasive. How long was Robinson away from the college game when USC rehired him? How old was Majors? What was he doing before Pitt dragged him back?

 

[Gatorhater]

I just hope we don't miss the window to hire him. Had Golden left to Penn State, Chud would be our head coach

The demise of the program began when he left in 2003

He was the brains behind the most prolific offenses in Miami history. The guy is adored throughout the NFL. He is having a huge impact on the Colts right now on both sides of the ball. He got a really raw deal in Cleveland.

Chud has rings.........NFL experience as an NFL coordinator and head coach........is a great recruiter..........is an x's and o's guru.............loves Miami and most importantly can be had very cheap as he is sitting on a 10 million dollar buyout he received from the Browns. Can probably get him for 2 mil per year with incentives.

You wanna pay Mark Stoops 4 mil per year? Mark Hudspeth 3 mil per year? Gimmie a break........

Chud is the savior of our program.........the Rolodex he must have at this point is insane with his NFL experience.

Get rid of Golden on November 30 and hire Chud. This is a 10 win team next year......

Revisionist history i guess, go back and watch those offensive juggernaut games from 01-03. If not for the NFL talent, a top 5 defense, and special teams full of NFL talent this bozo gets the Dorito treatment. I agree with the other posters, if he becomes the next HC this program is officially dead and will never recover.

And JJ could not coach a bowl game worth a crap either. Dennis could recruit. Butch was a mess on the sideline. Do we trust the administration or the AD to go out and find the next up and coming coach? Did we just get that? Howard never did what he did here again, even at OU. I want a friggin coach who wants to get NLF HC job and uses THE U winning an NC as the springboard to that. Art hated recruiting, Chud hated recruiting, who the heck recruited all the All Pros with Butch? Coaches have their moment, we need to catch one at the right time. I like Chud for a lot of reasons but two stand out: 1) He can start today. 2) he can and will showcase us as way back to NFL HC. Nothing does that better than willing an NC. Larry wanted to stay forever, Randy wanted to stay forever, Al want to stay forever here or at psu. I do not want any forever coach. None of them ever win enough NCs to satisfy us. We are Canes, not noles, crimson ripples, beef cattle, ears of corn, or shower mates. These is THE U and we walk along and apart. Give me a mercenary like JJ who later regrets not staying at THE U. Forget nice guys. Howard was and is a gentlemen. But he was not some sap nice guy. Dude was and is all man all the time. Now if you tell me Chud is too nice then maybe he is not our man.

 

[Cane Dynasty]

We are Canes, not noles, crimson ripples, beef cattle, ears of corn, or shower mates.

Butch Davis

 

[BWCD]

For me?

Guys I say no to who have been brought up: Schiano, Chud, Cristobal.

Guys I say yes to who have been brought up: Butch (but make sure you give him a great staff), Narduzzi.

Guys I say yes to who haven't been brought up in this thread: Phillip Montgomery, Baylor's OC.

In order of whom I'd offer the job to first: Montgomery, Narduzzi, Butch.

 

[Consigliere]

How exactly did Cleveland ***** Dud? He went 4-12, and they canned him. It's a results league, and they don't do the "he needs another year" trash like they do in college.

I agree (results league).

I still don't think he got a fair share in Cleveland. One year? The owner fired the GM and Chud after one season. The franchise was in shambles for some time before he got there and Chud had to use 3 different QBs, the best one (current one) went down early for the year.

 

[Tad Footeball]

If Narduzzi doesn't accept a job after this season then I'm going to start calling him Bud (Foster) Lite.

 

[Ibis Wingz]

How exactly did Cleveland ***** Dud? He went 4-12, and they canned him. It's a results league, and they don't do the "he needs another year" trash like they do in college.

I agree (results league).

I still don't think he got a fair share in Cleveland. One year? The owner fired the GM and Chud after one season. The franchise was in shambles for some time before he got there and Chud had to use 3 different QBs, the best one (current one) went down early for the year.

Chud got a raw deal in Cleveland.

 

[Cane Dynasty]

How exactly did Cleveland ***** Dud? He went 4-12, and they canned him. It's a results league, and they don't do the "he needs another year" trash like they do in college.

I agree (results league).

I still don't think he got a fair share in Cleveland. One year? The owner fired the GM and Chud after one season. The franchise was in shambles for some time before he got there and Chud had to use 3 different QBs, the best one (current one) went down early for the year.

Chud got a raw deal in Cleveland.

Cleveland got a raw deal in Chud.

 

[fincane]

What's bothering me is that this is four pages long and we know who's the guy.....Butch ***** Davis. He pleases every fan and every area we have concern.

No he doesn't.

Hiring Davis is like when USC tried to recapture the glory years and hired John Robinson. Or Pittsburgh with Johnny Majors. Feels desperate and a cop out.

Young and ambitious. With an eye for greatness. Thats the way it gets done at Miami. A guy who is never satisfied. Even if that means going to the NFL in 4-5 years.

Ron Prince. Young. Aggressive. Up and coming. Bill Snyder. Old. Grizzled. Glory years. How'd that go?

Comparing Davis to Robinson and Majors is unpersuasive. How long was Robinson away from the college game when USC rehired him? How old was Majors? What was he doing before Pitt dragged him back?

Johnny Majors coached the previous year at Tennessee. Robinson was away from USC less than Butch has been away from Miami. 11 years Robinson had been gone. Snyder he was gone less than 4 years and was still around the program. 14 years after leaving the program and banking on him to do the things he did in the past seems more like hoping and praying.

As far as Ron Prince, I don't know what works in Manhattan, KS besides Snyder. I do know what appears to work in Miami. Maybe Butch avoids the trap of hiring simply his guys who he has worked with in the past. I worry about being him being stuck in the past along with the program.

 

[The Franchise]

How exactly did Cleveland ***** Dud? He went 4-12, and they canned him. It's a results league, and they don't do the "he needs another year" trash like they do in college.

I agree (results league).

I still don't think he got a fair share in Cleveland. One year? The owner fired the GM and Chud after one season. The franchise was in shambles for some time before he got there and Chud had to use 3 different QBs, the best one (current one) went down early for the year.

He went 4-12, and there were rumblings that no one wanted him around. As for the QB excuse, he's supposed to be an offensive genius. Fix it. He couldn't, and he won 4 games.

I don't want to hear lame excuses for why a coach failed. If he comes here and has to start a freshmans QB will everyone be looking to give him excuses for failure? Fix the offense if you're an offensive coach.

On top of all that, he couldn't wait to get out of the college game. Don't forget that he left the OC gig here to go be a TE corch in the NFL. He didn't leave to be a HC or an OC. I don't get the obsession UM fans have with this wet rag.

 

[The Franchise]

What's bothering me is that this is four pages long and we know who's the guy.....Butch ***** Davis. He pleases every fan and every area we have concern.

No he doesn't.

Hiring Davis is like when USC tried to recapture the glory years and hired John Robinson. Or Pittsburgh with Johnny Majors. Feels desperate and a cop out.

Young and ambitious. With an eye for greatness. Thats the way it gets done at Miami. A guy who is never satisfied. Even if that means going to the NFL in 4-5 years.

Ron Prince. Young. Aggressive. Up and coming. Bill Snyder. Old. Grizzled. Glory years. How'd that go?

Comparing Davis to Robinson and Majors is unpersuasive. How long was Robinson away from the college game when USC rehired him? How old was Majors? What was he doing before Pitt dragged him back?

Johnny Majors coached the previous year at Tennessee. Robinson was away from USC less than Butch has been away from Miami. 11 years Robinson had been gone. Snyder he was gone less than 4 years and was still around the program. 14 years after leaving the program and banking on him to do the things he did in the past seems more like hoping and praying.

As far as Ron Prince, I don't know what works in Manhattan, KS besides Snyder. I do know what appears to work in Miami. Maybe Butch avoids the trap of hiring simply his guys who he has worked with in the past. I worry about being him being stuck in the past along with the program.

See how you tried to switch the discussion with Robinson? Butch hasn't been away from the college game for 11 years like Robinson. He was actively recruiting and building an ACC program just a couple years ago. He was also recruiting S. FL. I don't see how it matters that he's been away from Miami for 13 years. He's only been out of the game two years and has been following college football like a hawk all year for ESPN.

 

[Tad Footeball]

My pick would be HC Mario Cristobal, former cane with sec ties now. Oc would still be James, Maybe Mario could bring his boy from fiu and current Mississippi state dc Geoff Collins over (more sec ties) to be our defensive coordinator . Hopefully snag travaris Robinson from UF and have him coach the db's. Get Kevin Patrick to coach our d line or maybe Mario can bring Tosh Lupoi from Bama with him even though I doubt we'd hire him because of all the accusations he's had against him. I'd leave the offensive staff the way it is. I'm sure we'd need a new WR coach because Brennan might be gone with Al. Defensively, dorito, jethro and Paul would be out. Hurlie would stay on as the special teams coordinator and Geoff would take over LBs.

Don't need any SEC ties. In fact, don't need any ties of any sort. Neckties, bow ties, ties to organized crime, Family Ties, Ty Willingham, etc. They don't do any special corching in the mighty SEC and they sure as **** don't have more fertile recruiting grounds.

 

[AUcane]

Trestman?? Jeez.

Not sure what you mean by this...he's a **** of a coach. Success or lack thereof at the NFL level is in no way an indicator of how good a college coach a person is. Saban and Petrino both struggled in the league and most of us would cut off a body part to have either of them here.

And to be clear, I'm in no way insinuating he should be a candidate at this point, I'm not naive enough to think we'd even have a chance. My point was simply that's the TYPE of guy we should go after. An aggressive, intelligent, offensive mind.[/QUOTE]

Sure, I get that, but we can do a whole lot better than Trestman as a HBC. He's an NFL journeyman coach at this point. I have no interest in that kind of person as a HBC at a crucial time for UM.

 

[sitzee]

I don't know why everyone shuns Ed Orgeron.. I understand he wasn't very successful at Ole Miss. but USC brought him back after leaving for the Head Coaching job at Ole Miss.. Was named Recruiter of the Year in 2004, he won 2 National Championships here at Miami coaching the Defensive Line under Coach Erickson.. This man can Recruit, Coach and has Passion which is something this team is missing....

http://www.usctrojans.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/ed_orgeron_567326.html

Can you inform us ignorant folk as to why you feel that way?

He's been on record saying he hates recruiting and didn't do much of it while at Miami iirc. In today's CFB landscape you can't have that mentality and after being in the pro game for so long I doubt he wants to dive into recruiting young kids again

****. I'm a big Chud fan but that's a huge red flag.

Yep, I've raised this concern before. Look at all the top college teams out there - virtually all of them have monster recruiters/evaluators at HBC. I don't think Chud is either. He's a schemer and a nerd. Not sure those types translate well to being a HBC in college. That's why- begrudgingly - I think Monkey Boy might be a better fit.

Dang. I thought realistically Chud would be a good hire but we need a ruthless recruiter in here. Golden is a good one IMO but even he has been run over a lot. Then again he is selling a ****ty product so just how effective he is at recruiting is a bit of a gray area.

Shannon was a good recruiter in ways but his unwillingness to play the game was a huge downfall and left our roster in shambles. Luckily for the next guy Golden just brought in a stellar class but the next guy in has to keep that momentum going. Schiano definitely has his downfalls too but probably less than most of our choices.