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who the **** knows. i will tell you next January whether it was an upgrade or not. injuries, slumps, laziness, suspensions and other vices and issues can determine whether it is an upgrade or not.
Hard to say it's an upgrade when we lose Duke Johnson. I get what you're saying, and I think the position will be fine, but Duke Johnson was one of the best we've ever had here.Pluses and minuses but the major reason for optimism is a seasoned Brad Kayya. Defense was not our problem last year offense when needed was. Duke was a sensational college back but the triad of Yearby, the big guy(Also seasoned )and the freshman is In my opinion an upgrade. DL better LB's even at best, db's better. Wr's even TE worse. OL better if healthy.
Duke Johnson as an individual is irreplaceable. However, the RB position as a unit may not be much of a downgrade, or may even be better, with Yearby and Edwards having more experience and growth, and an exciting young back in Walton coming in, not to mention Gray, who had nowhere to go but up.
I agree. Losing the best player from the group and replacing him with his clearly inferior backups will definitely strengthen the position overall.
Ah, good ol' Chise. Ever ready for a quick, and failed, attempt at wit, rarely demonstrating any logic or football knowledge. If you don't understand that a unit relies on more than one player, and while the new #1 may not be as good as the old #1 , but the [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2-4]#2-4 [/URL] are all improved, then there's no hope for you anyway.
Hard to say it's an upgrade when we lose Duke Johnson. I get what you're saying, and I think the position will be fine, but Duke Johnson was one of the best we've ever had here.
Duke Johnson as an individual is irreplaceable. However, the RB position as a unit may not be much of a downgrade, or may even be better, with Yearby and Edwards having more experience and growth, and an exciting young back in Walton coming in, not to mention Gray, who had nowhere to go but up.
I agree. Losing the best player from the group and replacing him with his clearly inferior backups will definitely strengthen the position overall.
Ah, good ol' Chise. Ever ready for a quick, and failed, attempt at wit, rarely demonstrating any logic or football knowledge. If you don't understand that a unit relies on more than one player, and while the new #1 may not be as good as the old #1 , but the [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2-4]#2-4 [/URL] are all improved, then there's no hope for you anyway.
Or, perhaps he is suggesting what you said in the very first sentence outweighs the progress of #2-4 on the depth chart? I could care less and I'm not saying, I'm just saying.
There's no reason why we can't have success running the ball with Yearby, Walton, Edwards, Gray, Tucker as our five backs.
Compare our 12 departing starters with FSUs
Winston
K. Williams
Green
O'Leary
Matias
Erving
Jackson
Hart
Goldman
Edwards
Williams
Darby
11 of these guys were drafted. Now that's a lot to replace.
Duke Johnson as an individual is irreplaceable. However, the RB position as a unit may not be much of a downgrade, or may even be better, with Yearby and Edwards having more experience and growth, and an exciting young back in Walton coming in, not to mention Gray, who had nowhere to go but up.
I agree. Losing the best player from the group and replacing him with his clearly inferior backups will definitely strengthen the position overall.
Ah, good ol' Chise. Ever ready for a quick, and failed, attempt at wit, rarely demonstrating any logic or football knowledge. If you don't understand that a unit relies on more than one player, and while the new #1 may not be as good as the old #1 , but the [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2-4]#2-4 [/URL] are all improved, then there's no hope for you anyway.
Or, perhaps he is suggesting what you said in the very first sentence outweighs the progress of #2-4 on the depth chart? I could care less and I'm not saying, I'm just saying.
But one person doesn't make up a whole unit. Duke didn't play every offensive down. Yearby will be better than last year (when he was already very good and playing with less experience and an ankle that wasn't fully healed), Edwards should be better than last year. Walton is coming in. Gray can only get better. Last year it was Duke, and then a partially hobbled freshman, an inexperienced Edwards, Gray trying to learn how to be a RB, and Crawford as an emergency backup plan.
I agree. Losing the best player from the group and replacing him with his clearly inferior backups will definitely strengthen the position overall.
Ah, good ol' Chise. Ever ready for a quick, and failed, attempt at wit, rarely demonstrating any logic or football knowledge. If you don't understand that a unit relies on more than one player, and while the new #1 may not be as good as the old #1 , but the [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2-4]#2-4 [/URL] are all improved, then there's no hope for you anyway.
Or, perhaps he is suggesting what you said in the very first sentence outweighs the progress of #2-4 on the depth chart? I could care less and I'm not saying, I'm just saying.
But one person doesn't make up a whole unit. Duke didn't play every offensive down. Yearby will be better than last year (when he was already very good and playing with less experience and an ankle that wasn't fully healed), Edwards should be better than last year. Walton is coming in. Gray can only get better. Last year it was Duke, and then a partially hobbled freshman, an inexperienced Edwards, Gray trying to learn how to be a RB, and Crawford as an emergency backup plan.
So in other words, you are calling out our dear friend the franchise over what is 100% speculative on your part, and calling into question his logic and knowledge of the game over something speculative and unsubstantiated? The never touched the ball before walton and the 6 touches at 4 yards per carry Gray got you all moist and wanting after losing the most productive back in program history?
No you are right, show us the way to more logical analysis.
Compare our 12 departing starters with FSUs
Winston
K. Williams
Green
O'Leary
Matias
Erving
Jackson
Hart
Goldman
Edwards
Williams
Darby
11 of these guys were drafted. Now that's a lot to replace.
Now look at their last 5 crootin classes. They will be fine. They also have a corch with a NC.
We have Gorlden and Dorito leading the decision making on our sidelines.
I agree. Losing the best player from the group and replacing him with his clearly inferior backups will definitely strengthen the position overall.
Ah, good ol' Chise. Ever ready for a quick, and failed, attempt at wit, rarely demonstrating any logic or football knowledge. If you don't understand that a unit relies on more than one player, and while the new #1 may not be as good as the old #1 , but the [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2-4]#2-4 [/URL] are all improved, then there's no hope for you anyway.
Or, perhaps he is suggesting what you said in the very first sentence outweighs the progress of #2-4 on the depth chart? I could care less and I'm not saying, I'm just saying.
But one person doesn't make up a whole unit. Duke didn't play every offensive down. Yearby will be better than last year (when he was already very good and playing with less experience and an ankle that wasn't fully healed), Edwards should be better than last year. Walton is coming in. Gray can only get better. Last year it was Duke, and then a partially hobbled freshman, an inexperienced Edwards, Gray trying to learn how to be a RB, and Crawford as an emergency backup plan.
So in other words, you are calling out our dear friend the franchise over what is 100% speculative on your part, and calling into question his logic and knowledge of the game over something speculative and unsubstantiated? The never touched the ball before walton and the 6 touches at 4 yards per carry Gray got you all moist and wanting after losing the most productive back in program history?
No you are right, show us the way to more logical analysis.
I agree. Losing the best player from the group and replacing him with his clearly inferior backups will definitely strengthen the position overall.
Ah, good ol' Chise. Ever ready for a quick, and failed, attempt at wit, rarely demonstrating any logic or football knowledge. If you don't understand that a unit relies on more than one player, and while the new #1 may not be as good as the old #1 , but the [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2-4]#2-4 [/URL] are all improved, then there's no hope for you anyway.
Or, perhaps he is suggesting what you said in the very first sentence outweighs the progress of #2-4 on the depth chart? I could care less and I'm not saying, I'm just saying.
But one person doesn't make up a whole unit. Duke didn't play every offensive down. Yearby will be better than last year (when he was already very good and playing with less experience and an ankle that wasn't fully healed), Edwards should be better than last year. Walton is coming in. Gray can only get better. Last year it was Duke, and then a partially hobbled freshman, an inexperienced Edwards, Gray trying to learn how to be a RB, and Crawford as an emergency backup plan.
So in other words, you are calling out our dear friend the franchise over what is 100% speculative on your part, and calling into question his logic and knowledge of the game over something speculative and unsubstantiated? The never touched the ball before walton and the 6 touches at 4 yards per carry Gray got you all moist and wanting after losing the most productive back in program history?
No you are right, show us the way to more logical analysis.
Ah, good ol' Chise. Ever ready for a quick, and failed, attempt at wit, rarely demonstrating any logic or football knowledge. If you don't understand that a unit relies on more than one player, and while the new #1 may not be as good as the old #1 , but the [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2-4][URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2-4]#2-4 [/URL] [/URL] are all improved, then there's no hope for you anyway.
Or, perhaps he is suggesting what you said in the very first sentence outweighs the progress of [URL=https://www.canesinsight.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2-4]#2-4 [/URL] on the depth chart? I could care less and I'm not saying, I'm just saying.
But one person doesn't make up a whole unit. Duke didn't play every offensive down. Yearby will be better than last year (when he was already very good and playing with less experience and an ankle that wasn't fully healed), Edwards should be better than last year. Walton is coming in. Gray can only get better. Last year it was Duke, and then a partially hobbled freshman, an inexperienced Edwards, Gray trying to learn how to be a RB, and Crawford as an emergency backup plan.
So in other words, you are calling out our dear friend the franchise over what is 100% speculative on your part, and calling into question his logic and knowledge of the game over something speculative and unsubstantiated? The never touched the ball before walton and the 6 touches at 4 yards per carry Gray got you all moist and wanting after losing the most productive back in program history?
No you are right, show us the way to more logical analysis.
Dear friend, just sit back and absorb the logic and facts that dk lays out for us. As long as he continues to label his wild supposition as fact and logic, we are in good hands.
He is assuring us that all of the guys from last year's team will improve enough to negate the loss of the best player by far from that unit (and arguably the most impactful player on the team over the last 3 years). We must trust blindly, dear friend, a guy with his self-proclaimed depth of football knowledge. Guys always improve at a rapid rate here don't they, dear friend? It's so universally accepted that they will dramatically improve that it's dk fact. Cough...Stacy Coley...cough.