Quick Question

[weownfsu]

Take it how you want. Perhaps it was poorly worded. Duke was not better than UL.

They were good enough to beat them during the regular season. You acting like beating Duke isn't an extremely impressive victory is the height of tard-ism--comparable to your "Al Golden is like Bobby Bowden post."

Your inability to comprehend that I am saying Duke was not better than UL is just sad.

Except that's not all you're saying, creampuff. You're saying that the Duke win wasn't a big deal because they went 1-1 against the national champs. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

I am saying that because I have clearly told you that is exactly what I am saying. If I tell you I mean something multiple times, you can't just say that is not what I mean. lol, come on now. Is it an impressive win? Yes. Were they really the better team? No.

Quote from you not even a page ago: "Only the OSU win and the Miami win can really be counted here. Kentucky finished the season unranked and lost to Robert Morris in the 1st round. Louisville showed they were the better team. However the Miami and OSU games really have no fault.

But I don't know why we are arguing this because I never once said Duke was bad or that Coach L did a bad job."

So let me get this straight: It is an impressive win but we can't count it as an impressive win for the Duke basketball team? Serious question, how old are you?

 

[Canes21]

If a team wins 1 match in 20, are they the better team? No. Just because Duke beat UL once does not make them the better team. What is so hard to understand?

 

[weownfsu]

If a team wins 1 match in 20, are they the better team? No. Just because Duke beat UL once does not make them the better team. What is so hard to understand?

I thought I told you to stay on topic. We aren't talking about who was the better team. You just said that the Duke victory over UL, the national champions, didn't count. Then you said it was impressive. So let's get this straight: an impressive win by Duke over the eventual national champions can't be "counted" to show that Duke was an elite basketball team?

 

[Canes21]

If a team wins 1 match in 20, are they the better team? No. Just because Duke beat UL once does not make them the better team. What is so hard to understand?

I thought I told you to stay on topic. We aren't talking about who was the better team. You just said that the Duke victory over UL, the national champions, didn't count. Then you said it was impressive. So let's get this straight: an impressive win by Duke over the eventual national champions can't be "counted" to show that Duke was an elite basketball team?

Duke was an upper level team when healthy. Miami did not destroy them when they were healthy. They took them out when they weren't healthy. Duke lost to UL when it really matters, so to me their regular season win does not hold weight when comparing it to the tournament loss. Does that clear it up for you any?

 

[weownfsu]

If a team wins 1 match in 20, are they the better team? No. Just because Duke beat UL once does not make them the better team. What is so hard to understand?

I thought I told you to stay on topic. We aren't talking about who was the better team. You just said that the Duke victory over UL, the national champions, didn't count. Then you said it was impressive. So let's get this straight: an impressive win by Duke over the eventual national champions can't be "counted" to show that Duke was an elite basketball team?

Duke was an upper level team when healthy. Miami did not destroy them when they were healthy. They took them out when they weren't healthy. Duke lost to UL when it really matters, so to me their regular season win does not hold weight when comparing it to the tournament loss. Does that clear it up for you any?

I told you to stay on topic. Stop talking about Miami. Are you saying that an impressive win (your words) can't be counted (your words) when determining whether Duke was a great win for UM? Yes or no?

 

[TheRagingWolf]

canes21 is ***

 

[Canes21]

If a team wins 1 match in 20, are they the better team? No. Just because Duke beat UL once does not make them the better team. What is so hard to understand?

I thought I told you to stay on topic. We aren't talking about who was the better team. You just said that the Duke victory over UL, the national champions, didn't count. Then you said it was impressive. So let's get this straight: an impressive win by Duke over the eventual national champions can't be "counted" to show that Duke was an elite basketball team?

Duke was an upper level team when healthy. Miami did not destroy them when they were healthy. They took them out when they weren't healthy. Duke lost to UL when it really matters, so to me their regular season win does not hold weight when comparing it to the tournament loss. Does that clear it up for you any?

I told you to stay on topic. Stop talking about Miami. Are you saying that an impressive win (your words) can't be counted (your words) when determining whether Duke was a great win for UM? Yes or no?

I think beating a team 5 games into the season by a few points does not hold as much weight compared to getting smoked in the tournament by the same team. Duke was a good win, but at the time of the game they were not a healthy team and Miami took advantage of that. When Duke was healthy Miami could not beat them.

 

[weownfsu]

If a team wins 1 match in 20, are they the better team? No. Just because Duke beat UL once does not make them the better team. What is so hard to understand?

I thought I told you to stay on topic. We aren't talking about who was the better team. You just said that the Duke victory over UL, the national champions, didn't count. Then you said it was impressive. So let's get this straight: an impressive win by Duke over the eventual national champions can't be "counted" to show that Duke was an elite basketball team?

Duke was an upper level team when healthy. Miami did not destroy them when they were healthy. They took them out when they weren't healthy. Duke lost to UL when it really matters, so to me their regular season win does not hold weight when comparing it to the tournament loss. Does that clear it up for you any?

I told you to stay on topic. Stop talking about Miami. Are you saying that an impressive win (your words) can't be counted (your words) when determining whether Duke was a great win for UM? Yes or no?

I think beating a team 5 games into the season by a few points does not hold as much weight compared to getting smoked in the tournament by the same team. Duke was a good win, but at the time of the game they were not a healthy team and Miami took advantage of that. When Duke was healthy Miami could not beat them.

Stop changing the subject. What we are discussing has nothing to do with Miami trading home victories with Duke. Are you standing by what you said (that an impressive win for Duke over Louisville cannot be counted when determining whether Duke was a great win for UM) or no?

 

[Canes21]

I thought I told you to stay on topic. We aren't talking about who was the better team. You just said that the Duke victory over UL, the national champions, didn't count. Then you said it was impressive. So let's get this straight: an impressive win by Duke over the eventual national champions can't be "counted" to show that Duke was an elite basketball team?

Duke was an upper level team when healthy. Miami did not destroy them when they were healthy. They took them out when they weren't healthy. Duke lost to UL when it really matters, so to me their regular season win does not hold weight when comparing it to the tournament loss. Does that clear it up for you any?

I told you to stay on topic. Stop talking about Miami. Are you saying that an impressive win (your words) can't be counted (your words) when determining whether Duke was a great win for UM? Yes or no?

I think beating a team 5 games into the season by a few points does not hold as much weight compared to getting smoked in the tournament by the same team. Duke was a good win, but at the time of the game they were not a healthy team and Miami took advantage of that. When Duke was healthy Miami could not beat them.

Stop changing the subject. What we are discussing has nothing to do with Miami trading home victories with Duke. Are you standing by what you said (that an impressive win for Duke over Louisville cannot be counted when determining whether Duke was a great win for UM) or no?

Miami being able to beat Duke when they are not healthy, but losing to them when they are healthy pretty much tells the story does it not? It was a good win for them at home, I do not deny that.

 

[weownfsu]

Duke was an upper level team when healthy. Miami did not destroy them when they were healthy. They took them out when they weren't healthy. Duke lost to UL when it really matters, so to me their regular season win does not hold weight when comparing it to the tournament loss. Does that clear it up for you any?

I told you to stay on topic. Stop talking about Miami. Are you saying that an impressive win (your words) can't be counted (your words) when determining whether Duke was a great win for UM? Yes or no?

I think beating a team 5 games into the season by a few points does not hold as much weight compared to getting smoked in the tournament by the same team. Duke was a good win, but at the time of the game they were not a healthy team and Miami took advantage of that. When Duke was healthy Miami could not beat them.

Stop changing the subject. What we are discussing has nothing to do with Miami trading home victories with Duke. Are you standing by what you said (that an impressive win for Duke over Louisville cannot be counted when determining whether Duke was a great win for UM) or no?

Miami being able to beat Duke when they are not healthy, but losing to them when they are healthy pretty much tells the story does it not? It was a good win for them at home, I do not deny that.

So you can't answer a simple yes or no question. You're a scatterbrained mess. Al you needed was to type YES or NO. But you couldn't do that. You don't even get what we are talking about right now.

By the way, Miami crushed Duke at home, and then barely lost to them on the road.

 

[Canes21]

I told you to stay on topic. Stop talking about Miami. Are you saying that an impressive win (your words) can't be counted (your words) when determining whether Duke was a great win for UM? Yes or no?

I think beating a team 5 games into the season by a few points does not hold as much weight compared to getting smoked in the tournament by the same team. Duke was a good win, but at the time of the game they were not a healthy team and Miami took advantage of that. When Duke was healthy Miami could not beat them.

Stop changing the subject. What we are discussing has nothing to do with Miami trading home victories with Duke. Are you standing by what you said (that an impressive win for Duke over Louisville cannot be counted when determining whether Duke was a great win for UM) or no?

Miami being able to beat Duke when they are not healthy, but losing to them when they are healthy pretty much tells the story does it not? It was a good win for them at home, I do not deny that.

So you can't answer a simple yes or no question. You're a scatterbrained mess. Al you needed was to type YES or NO. But you couldn't do that. You don't even get what we are talking about right now.

By the way, Miami crushed Duke at home, and then barely lost to them on the road.

Barely lost... still lost. Don't get your point here. Explain why barely losing is so important.

 

[weownfsu]

I think beating a team 5 games into the season by a few points does not hold as much weight compared to getting smoked in the tournament by the same team. Duke was a good win, but at the time of the game they were not a healthy team and Miami took advantage of that. When Duke was healthy Miami could not beat them.

Stop changing the subject. What we are discussing has nothing to do with Miami trading home victories with Duke. Are you standing by what you said (that an impressive win for Duke over Louisville cannot be counted when determining whether Duke was a great win for UM) or no?

Miami being able to beat Duke when they are not healthy, but losing to them when they are healthy pretty much tells the story does it not? It was a good win for them at home, I do not deny that.

So you can't answer a simple yes or no question. You're a scatterbrained mess. Al you needed was to type YES or NO. But you couldn't do that. You don't even get what we are talking about right now.

By the way, Miami crushed Duke at home, and then barely lost to them on the road.

Barely lost... still lost. Don't get your point here. Explain why barely losing is so important.

I'll get to that as soon as you answer my YES or NO question. You've wasted like 10,000 words already when all you needed is one.

Are you standing by what you said (that an impressive win for Duke over Louisville cannot be counted when determining whether Duke was a great win for UM) or no?

 

[Canes21]

And to your point, it is not as simple. A healthy Duke team beat UL. A healthy Duke team beat Miami. You get the point? Miami beat an unhealthy Duke team, not the healthier, better version.

And to answer your question, it was a good win, not a great win.

 

[weownfsu]

And to your point, it is not as simple. A healthy Duke team beat UL. A healthy Duke team beat Miami. You get the point? Miami beat an unhealthy Duke team, not the healthier, better version.

Are you standing by what you said (that an impressive win for Duke over Louisville cannot be counted when determining whether Duke was a great win for UM) or no?

 

[AFCane11]

Lmao this dude just tried to discredit Coach L.

He went .500 the year after he lost 9/12 players from his team? Oh God no! You'd be throwing Golden a parade. Golden beat two .500 teams and you've got 24-hr security watching you to make sure you don't break into his house and suck his dlck. Golden can't even win the Coastal despite having the best recruiting classes out of every team in that division. You're a faqq0t for trying to discredit Coach L's accomplishments, plain and simple.

And lmfao at "depth issues" in his 4th season. What a great recruiter if so. Worst part, no team is shuffling in 22 guys on each unit. We've had ZERO major injuries. Depth is NO problem.

And LMMFAO him saying Duke staying healthy would have made Miami 11-1 last year. Bltch, he's healthy and having the best year of his life with a better QB and twice as good of a defense AND WE'RE 6-4!! Did your mama used to put you in the dryer?


How bout this: take all that bullshlt you posted, print it out, slather it up REAL nice, turn that sumbltch sideways, and STICK IT STRAIGHT UP YOUR CANDY ***!!!

This post right hea is absolute money. I wanna take the bold part and cash at my nearest finance office. I think Canes 21 should get an Adrain Peterson like suspension from porstin here for all the buffoonery he just porsted.

 

[RiDLer80]

This 21 guy is a god **** moron. Holy ******* **** this board has hit a new low.

 

[Chocolate City Cane]

If Duke stayed healthy last year, we go 10-2 or 11-1? Holy ****, did I just read that?

We actually have a better team than last year, play a ****ty schedule, Duke stayed healthy and we're 6-4. Say what?

Bump

Definitely. Obviously, we only lost close games last year, where Duke would have made a clear difference.

Let's see.

VT beat us by 18 points.
FSU by 27.
Duke by 18.
Louisville by 25.

Not true.

Louisville beat us by 27.

 

[Chocolate City Cane]

I'm not buying that we don't have enough depth to win the worst division in major college football. What we do have is a perfect storm of recruiting failures and game day incompetence. Canes21 talks about a lack of depth and transfer issues. Whose fault is that? Who brought in the Danny Dillards, Larry Hopes, and Jacoby Briscoes of the world? And if you're going to mention transfers, it's worth noting where the guys who left ended up. Other than Gionni Paul, an underachiever here who is now a standout at a top 25 program in a better conference (more on that in a bit), who's playing major D1 ball? When guys are leaving your program and ending up at Bethune-Cookman, odds are they weren't Miami caliber players to begin with.

The other issue is too many of the Miami caliber players they have gotten aren't developing the way they should be. For every standout there's at least one guy who should be doing more, and probably would be doing more elsewhere. You'd have a hard time convincing me that Jamal Carter wouldn't have been better off at LSU, or that Tracy Howard wouldn't have become a better player at UF or FSU. I can't say I'm surprised that Paul started living up to his potential when he got around good coaches.

**** Waldo, where are Stacy Coley and Herb Waters? Why haven't we been able to find an impact D-Lineman for five years? I need answers, man.

 

[Gatorhater]

You leave out a very important fact, Coach L, like JJ, actually jumped up and down screaming "How about me!!! How about ME!!!!!" He is not the product of a planned, well funded, detailed search and interview process followed by intelligent detail due diligence and analysis, and finally a firm decision based on clear objectives. See, Donna and the administration didn't pick Coach L, he just kind of took the job -- like JJ in a elevator with Sam years ago. Al is the product of the administration; Coach L is an accident. That fully explains the difference. Well that and Coach L is way cool and **** of a coach while Al is well from psu and kind of sucks.

 

[GoldenCanesAL]

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